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Name:   MartiniMan The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Amazing
Date:   8/15/2009 8:40:37 AM

I really think you should look at the Republican plan because it is consistent with yours and my beliefs about what needs to happen to make our system more cost effective. And it does include reasonable tort reform that would allow for suits for errors but discourages suits for unwanted outcomes which are no fault of the doctor.

As for the partisan nature of the debate, I really believe there is a genuine groundswell of passion and sometimes anger and it is entirely justified. They are rushing to pass this monstrous bill that the vast majority of Democrats have never even read and don't know what's in it. Yes, there was a lot of passion, anger and shouting at townhall meetings but the violence only began when Obama sent out his email mobilizing the SEIU goons to beat up opponents (when the White House says "we will punch back twice as hard" that is inciting violence and violence ensued) and Pelosi started the Nazi thing. So its not just the far right that is angry and scared and the polling proves that across the board.

I think much of the anger on the far left about this debate is they really believed that the election of Obama and return of control of Congress to Democrats was because America finally came to believe what they believe about the role of government. What the polls are showing is that the 40% in the middle that took a chance on Obama/Reid/Pelosi out of anger toward Bush and dislike of McCain/Palin are realizing they were duped to believe that this troika is anything but died in the wool socialists.

I do agree that our solution is not currently politically possible, but that is because Democrats have kept Republicans out of the room entirely and make no pretense of allowing or even desiring true bipartisanship. Their definition of that is for us to abandon our principals and bend over and take it in the rear. What a mess. Its no wonder Republicans are leading in the generic poll and no wonder Americans prefer divided government. Any time we get one party in control of the White House and Congress everything goes into the toilet. But right now what is important is that we defeat this bill and send the message to the White House and Congress that we want them to slow down and that we do not agree that government control of health care is the solution.

By the way, check out what Reagan said about socialized medicine thirty years ago. It is eerie.
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Great Advertisement - GoneFishin - 8/13/2009 3:32:52 PM
     Stephen Hawkin - architect - 8/13/2009 6:31:00 PM
          Stephen Hawkin - Lady - 8/13/2009 6:32:29 PM
          Stephen Hawking - architect - 8/13/2009 6:33:19 PM
          architect - wix - 8/13/2009 7:14:29 PM
          Stephen Hawkin - MartiniMan - 8/13/2009 8:53:30 PM
               Umm..I wonder - architect - 8/13/2009 10:00:05 PM
                    Splitting hairs as usual - MartiniMan - 8/16/2009 4:12:24 PM
          Stephen Hawking - MartiniMan - 8/13/2009 9:15:17 PM
               Martini, neither you - GoneFishin - 8/13/2009 10:32:06 PM
                    GF - wix - 8/13/2009 10:51:17 PM
                         WIX - GoneFishin - 8/14/2009 12:15:23 AM
                              WIX - lotowner - 8/14/2009 7:05:54 AM
                                   WOW lotowner - architect - 8/14/2009 8:51:22 AM
                                        WOW lotowner - wix - 8/14/2009 9:01:21 AM
                              Thanks - wix - 8/14/2009 8:59:02 AM
                    Really? - MartiniMan - 8/14/2009 9:18:34 AM
                         Really? - architect - 8/14/2009 9:54:38 AM
                              Really? - MartiniMan - 8/14/2009 5:17:21 PM
                                   Amazing - architect - 8/14/2009 10:14:42 PM
                                        Amazing - MartiniMan - 8/15/2009 8:40:37 AM



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