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MrHodja
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Inevitable
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1/13/2011 11:12:50 PM
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The motivation and sincerity of these folks can't be questioned. Whether actually passing such a law will make any real difference IS questionable.
If this initiative is successful are 30 round magazines for AR-15s next? Then 20? Then 10? Then single shot 22s?
URL: Ban Proposed on High Capacity Magazines
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comrade
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Inevitable
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1/13/2011 11:33:46 PM
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Not that logic has anything to do with this, but the thought is that this would minimize the carnage? So just a few murdered would be OK? While we are at it, we can set the legal BAC limit for 2 year olds at 0.5, and put that on the resume too.......
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comrade
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Inevitable
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1/13/2011 11:35:32 PM
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You know, Loughner was motivated and sincere...
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Yankee06
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 1:40:16 AM
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-What always amazed me about my contacts with some senators and house members when I worked in Washington was my perception of their lack of professionalism or at least their lack of logic in the professional positions they took. If I were as unprofessional in my military business as they were in their legislative business, I would have been fired or I would have resigned from shame.
-These responses to Tucson by some congress people are more examples; ban certain symbols and words; no guns within a 1000 feet, no 30-round clips, etc. They are all a result of flawed logic.
-Let's look at this latest 30-round clip proposal. This nutjob in Tucson had a 30-round clip and killed 6 people. The nutjob at Fort Hood did not have 30-round clips but he killed 13 and wounded a lot more. So is there any real logic to the banning of 30-round clips as to teh number of people a nutjob is going to kill? Two guns or a little practice reloading seems to negate the purpose of such a law!
-now if teh agenda is to use this event to incrementally take away gun rights, then banning 30-round clips might be a logical long-term approach.
-Would banning guns altogether, keep guns out of teh hands of criminals?--NO. Would bannig guns altogether keep guns out of the hands of nutjobs? --probably it would keep them out of teh hands of alot of nut jobs. Now that's a debate to have, --but not 30-round clips. That debate is just stupid!
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muddauber
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 7:58:29 AM
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You cannot keep guns out of a determined persons hands. These jockey lots sell guns,individuals sell guns, etc, etc.
If one knows where, pawn shop here n there will sell without going thru the proper papework.
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Talullahhound
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 8:15:53 AM
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Typical Washington knee jerk reaction. How stupid.
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Talullahhound
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 8:41:49 AM
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But maybe we'll get legislation to ban "Glock 9mm" since they have been shown to be the weapon of choice by the mentally ill.
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MrHodja
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 9:14:12 AM
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Ouch...you know I own a Glock 9mm. Please don't remind me of my malady!
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au67
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 10:02:41 AM
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What about that law that's already on the books...something to do with murder. It obviously has no effect on people who are determined to commit the act.
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Tall Cotton
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 12:28:47 PM
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Exactly the point! Criminals are by definition breaking an existing law. Passing another will only keep law abiding citizens from exercising their God given rights. I hate reloading magazines, so larger capacity makes my range time much more enjoyable. I can not see any time when I would choose to violate laws against murder regardless of the round capacity of my firearm. All that is being done by these proposals is to chip away at the few freedoms we still have left.
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Mack
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Inevitable
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1/14/2011 6:53:17 PM
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Face the facts.. Gun control will eventually be enacted. For decades some form of gun control has been threatened by some idiot politician. Then, a quiet retreat when it doesn't have enough juice to pass. Then, repeated in a different form.
Sooner or later, these people will get the guns, perhaps attached to another hot bill and unread until too late. So, stock up now, and later sell everything to Billy Jones or Alvin Turnbull:::: Receipt attached. Ammo too.
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Mack
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Clarification
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1/14/2011 6:57:53 PM
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Stock up and enjoy them while you can. Then at some point sell them all, before the new ban, so you don't lose money when they become illegal. Understand??
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Talullahhound
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Clarification
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1/14/2011 9:37:32 PM
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I may be crazy, but I don't think that we'll see gun control in our lifetime (assume most of us are 50 or above). Not that some elements won't try.
You might be interested to know that handguns are on the rise with women. In this past week, two women I know have both confided that they are now carrying handguns with them in their purses.
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Tall Cotton
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Clarification
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1/14/2011 11:14:59 PM
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We already have had tremendous amounts of gun control enacted, and just in our lifetime. In the past 50 years, fully automatic weapons have been tightly restricted, to the point that a friend of mine who found a Tohmpson Tommy gun in the wall when remodeling his house was threatened with jail time for not turning it in immediately. It was confiscated with no compensation. All new firearms sold must be registered. All buyers have to pay for, and pass a background check. Certain types of firearms (assault weapons) were banned for a period of time. And the list goes on and on. In California there is a magazine capacity limit and some weapons are banned completely. If you had told my father that one day he would have to go to a school, pass a written test, and pass a proficiency test to be able to throw his 22 single action revolver loaded with rat shot in his truck or tackle box legally, he would have called you nuts. In my opinion we haven't stopped the march toward a total ban. But answer this, after the Ft. Hood shootings why weren't there calls to remove all access to weapons not being used at the time for training on all military bases?3
Don't get complacent, and don't underestimate the power of doing nothing!
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Talullahhound
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Clarification
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1/15/2011 5:40:52 PM
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I'm not complacent. I personally don't see anything wrong with the background checks and such. In fact, I think they need to find a way to get the mental health community linked into the back ground check. I realize that some people don't agree.
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