Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/9/2018 8:57:38 PM

   This is closer to the truth than we realize!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw&app=desktop

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling students just don't add up
Date:	2/11/2018 8:28:51 AM

Where did you find the school photo of GOOF-COMMIE and ARCH-IDIOT?

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/11/2018 11:48:23 AM

I feel sorry for teachers today.  They are at the mercy of the kids, their parents, the school administrators.   I was reading an online discussion about why BRHS was given a D in an evaluation of schools.  Yet, as I understand it, the community fights every time the administration tries to make positive changes.  they are more concerned about the football coach and playing football, than they are about what the kids are taught in school and how they are taught it.

Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	The Basis!
Date:	2/11/2018 6:22:27 PM

   One of the first reasons schools are failing is disipline! If you cannot have order in the classroom Plato could not teach!  This is just one example of what the left has done to us. Think of it: everything they advocete weakens America industraily, militarly, moraly or intectually.  There must be a cadry of our enemies leading the snow flake lemmings towards the cliff. Can anyone show me a case when this is not so?

Name:	Rich -	Reply
Subject:	"Useful idiots"
Date:	2/11/2018 8:28:10 PM

Or "fools" being generous. It's not a new plan but more people are starting to wake up and take notice. Lets hope it's not too late.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/11/2018 10:43:20 PM

Results of progressive schools has arrived in Montgomery, Alabama. The failure of Montgomery public schools has been building for several years. The state intervened in the local system about a year ago and it has been evaulated by interim State Superintendent Ed Richardson for the last several months. He said the system has been "bleeding students and dollars" and has ordered the termination of 17 central office positions, the sale of unused property or previously closed schools and the closure of fout MPS schools, plus other changes. MPS has 11 "failing" schools  which is 15 percent of all failing schools in Alabama. Chronic absenteeism along with discipline is a major problem with more than 28 percent of each school's students missing 15 or more days a year.                                                                                                                                                        In the 2015-2016 school year, MPS had a 78 percent graduation rate, but only 43 percent of those students were college and career ready. All five of the public high schools had less than 5 percent of its 10th-grade students proficient in math. The average 11th-grade ACT average score for all five public high schools is 14.9, a score that places them in the bottom 20 percent of all students nationally. According to Richardson, "these are the lowest student achievement scores i've seen in my 50-plus years of education". The average ACT score for incoming freshmen at Auburn University is 27. The LAMP Magnet School in Montgomery has am average ACT score of 28.2. According to Richardson, "We're sending students out with a diploma that has not prepared them for the basics of life, it's deceptive and dishonest".

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/11/2018 11:45:12 PM

We have a friend on the School Board and she is an honest, hard working member with the interests of the students number one on her priority list.  Unfortunately she is in the minority and her efforts have been continually thwarted by other board members who frankly have no clue and seem to be more concerned with position than education.  In spite of the fact that our friend would be a victim, I truly believe the ENTIRE board should be fired and some responsible educators be put in place to right the ship.  We have a straight A magnet school grandson who is at risk of being able to get scholarship or grant money for college if MPS loses its accreditation.  I would rent an apartment in Auburn for my son to use as a home address to send our grandson to school there if that happened.  MPS is a true representation of aces and spaces, with wonderful magnet schools and the horrid rest.  

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/12/2018 12:47:39 AM

I agree with you that there is a couple of the members on the board who have the best interest of the students at heart and it is sad that they get judged as members of the overall board and not on their individual merits. It would be interesting to see a list of all the teachers involved showing where they received their teacher education. I'm sure I will be called a racist by some posters on the forum, but let the chips fall where they may. The students are the ones that are paying the price for failures that have been neglected for years. And I think we all will agree that there are many other factors beside the teachers that have a profound effect on the education of students.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/12/2018 9:34:59 AM

We shared this video with a friend of ours who had lost her job...ahem...excuse me.....did not get her contract renewed at a prestigious private school because she had the temerity to give the daughter of a very wealthy family a B in science.  For her this one hit way too close to home.  She now teaches at a large, very highly rated public school in Cobb County, GA and she said the public school parents are no better.

I once had a teacher at our kids school compliment me on how respectful and obedient our kids were.  I told him that the reason was simple.  We have told our kids from the beginning that even when the teacher was wrong they were right, and we were always going to defer to them.  When they objected that it wasn't fair I had my second pat answer.  Life isn't fair, life was never meant to be fair and life will never be fair.....deal with it!  You think in the business world you can get your Mom or Dad to stick up for you when your boss is being unfair?  Bad news but you got the wrong parents because that is never going to happen.  So when they got dinged for something that they didn't like they never brought it to our attention.  And if they got a lower grade than they thought they deserved they just tried harder.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/12/2018 12:26:49 PM

When I lived in VA, I lived in an area with highly rated public schools.  I attributed this is highly educated parents, who were very involved with the school curriculum.  It was not unusual for schools to have 5 or 6 national merit scholars every year.  A high percentage of HS students go on to college.  I have have watched the sad saga of the MPS since I moved here.  Alabama should be ashamed the that Capital of AL has such a poor school system.  it's obscene and I feel sorry for the kids that are trying to get an education.  

As you may or may not know, Alexander City schools just got a "D" rating.  I have talked with a number of parents with kids in the high school who have expressed concern at the quality of education their kids are getting.  What I have heard is that every time the Administration tries to do something different, parents are up in arms, because they went to that school and if it was good enough for them, it is good enough for their kids.  I actually read a comment the other day that said that they should take away the laptops that they are given.  The best students go on to a 4 year school, but so many others are convinced that going to the community college is all they need.  If you don't know, the community college here isn't much more than a trade school.  (While that is a good thing, for children that aren't college material and really do need to pursue a trade, it's not really a very good pre-college for those that would transfer).  

It would seem that education in Alabama follows the money.  Monied communities have much better schools.  I would bet that the schools in Huntsville are much better than average, given the higher level of education of the majority of parents.  

I find it really sad.  I've always believed that one thing that shoud be a right of all Americans is a high quality public school education. 

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Progressive Schooling
Date:	2/12/2018 6:16:45 PM

At the risk of our small covey of liberal idiots screaming "racist", I'll give my unbiased opinion of the progression of the school problem in all areas of the country, including Alabama.

Back in the 60s when integration was ordered by the courts no plan was instituted to accomplish an orderly integration of the dual systems, especially in the South.  The States and politicians were removed from the process, so the result is what we have today.  Judges appear to have no responsibility for the results of their decisions so we now have a mess.  If the courts had a brain they would have started in the first grade and integrated one class per year until the students coming from a less prepared system could catch up with the "privileged class".  That didn't happen, so we have a system that had to be dumbed down to the lowest denominator!  And that's what forced parents to move to better school systems, or put their kids in private schools...there was no other choice.  Call it "white flight" or whatever you want, but there's a valid reason.  Today we have largely segregated schools systems caused by the court orders not preparing and planning a proper integration.  The school system I aattended now has 7 white students in the 1200 student system, and it didn't have to be that way.  Think about it.

For those who think it's all about the money.....BS!!  Parents, students, and teachers all have to want a successful education system.  We're exactly back where we were in the 50's, because some citizens want a good education system and some couldn't care less.......