Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	BY WHICH ARE YOU OFFENDED ?
Date:	7/24/2013 9:46:17 AM (updated 7/24/2013 9:52:00 AM)

The NSA is not listening to US citizens’ phone conversations and reading email arranging trysts with co-workers, or bank robberies, or price fixing, or insider trading… etc. That’s the realm of Facebook and Google… and in criminal activity, under warrant, the FBI. NSA is data mining for indicators of terrorist threats against the US and its allies.  The NSA does not have time, inclination, or authority to engage in voyeurism against American citizens engaged in illicit acts, perversions, infidelity, or other hedonistic pursuits. 

Massive, high speed, NSA computers and programs conduct data mining for digital clues (ELINT) that elements of international terror and subterfuge are communicating.  Human Intelligence (HUMINT) has not the capability to do this. If these digital clues point to coordination of internal (domestic) acts of terror, the information is forwarded to the FBI for action. If the digital clues indicate foreign involvement against the US, the NSA will turn the digital information over to CIA and or DoD for action. If the process indicates an act against foreign countries our intelligence agencies will notify the requisite intelligence agencies in the targeted countries. (Recall that Russia tried to warn us about the Boston bombers. The Russians had connected the dots and notified our FBI of the impending threat. WE stupidly brushed it off!)

The NSA data mining process is NOT aimed at you unless you are a terrorist or agent of a hostile enemy. There is no need for you to wring your hands and scream insult.

THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WOULD BE TO FORCE THE NSA TO STOP THIS PROGRAM!

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If you NEED something to protest, you need to go after the ObamaCare Data Center where your government is REALLY spying on YOU… by collecting intensely private information about you and your family. They will allow UNVETTED “navigators” (including criminals) to process your information for third parties. Here’s where your hair needs to stand on end, your flesh crawl, and your patriotism to surface. Your doctor will tell you that they are already being forced to provide… to such national database… your medical, insurance, and personal information… HIPAA be damned!

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The Fourth Amendment:   

“Article the sixth [Amendment IV] The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

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If you wish to have your own copy of The Constitution, I provide it here:

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	BY WHICH ARE YOU OFFENDED ?
Date:	7/24/2013 12:09:46 PM

“How is the data processed?”

– THIS IS OUTSIDE MY “NEED TO KNOW.”  SNOWDEN IS A TRAITOR FOR AIDING AND ABETTING OUR NATION'S ENEMIES.

 “…is it scanned realtime and only the hits recorded OR is all the data stored and then scanned - and are you OK with one or both?”  

- PROBABLY BOTH (DISCOVER A SUSPECT CONNECTION[S] AND THEN REVIEW HISTORIES OF THOSE CONNECTIONS) – I’M OKAY WITH THE NSA PROCESS AS I UNDERSTAND IT. MY FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED.

“My fear is that it would take very little to change the algorithm to search for whatever someone wants to know.”

- I DON’T FEAR THE NSA BECAUSE THEY AREN’T INTERESTED IN ME. THEIR CHARTER IS TO DISCOVER THE SOURCE[S] OF THREAT[S] AND REFER THEM FOR ACTION.

 “If we are storing information for possible use at a later date, our freedoms are gone already…”

- THEN YOU ARE CORRECT, WITH THE OBAMACARE [HHS] DATA CENTER, YOUR FREEDOMS ARE ALREADY GONE. THE OBAMACARE DATA IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, POORLY EXECUTED, AND IS NOT VERY SECURE. YOU ARE AT RISK AND AT THE WHIM OF THE PARTY IN POWER.  

“…if we just correct (collect? SIC) data on an ‘as needed’ basis, I think you are naive to believe that the benefits outweigh the losses.”

- IF YOU SAY THAT I AM NAÏVE TO TRUST THE NSA… THEN I AM NAÏVE… BUT REMEMBER, “OUR INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE EFFECTIVE 100% OF THE TIME… THE TERRORISTS NEED ONLY BE RIGHT 1% OF THE TIME..”

BUT, I AM NOT SO NAÏVE [OR STUPID] AS TO BELIEVE THAT MY PRIVACY AND FREEDOM IS SAFE AND SECURE UNDER THE OBAMACARE DATA SYSTEM.

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	BY WHICH ARE YOU OFFENDED ?
Date:	8/1/2013 1:12:58 PM

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The nation was aghast that we hadn’t connected the dots to prevent 9-11.   NSA, CIA, and FBI stepped up the effort.  We ignored foreign intel and got a bomb in Boston for it.  NOW we want NSA to stop connecting the dots.

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If the hand wringers don’t get of the intel business… shut down the NSA… well, you know the rest of the story.

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	BY WHICH ARE YOU OFFENDED ?
Date:	8/1/2013 1:21:28 PM

BUT, it’s okay that Google, Facebook, and Yahoo et al are collecting our chats and emails AND HARVESTING THEM.  Y’all are a copacetic with Health And Human Services collecting, harvesting, and distributing your personal information (mandatory under ObamaCare).

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Heads up, Bucky… with NSA it’s a numbers game… they have neither time nor inclination to examine your sleazy emails.   

With all of the others… it’s for sale… and also there for the taking.