Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Democrats and Socialists...no difference
Date:	8/3/2015 11:58:15 AM

Funny to watch DWS on the Chris Matthews show being totally unable and unwilling to differentiate Democrats from socialists.  Easy reason why, there is none.  With a spokesbabe like her it is easy to understand why the GOP is in ascendency.  Of course they also have TOTUS to blame.  And pretty much any prominent Democrat.  But back to Chris Matthews, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then and his random act of journalism ought to be part of the 2016 campaign ads.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	MM - Did you hear the news?
Date:	8/3/2015 3:13:48 PM

Hiliary is down in another poll.  52% of Americans don't trust her. 

Who is Chris Matthew?  Who is DWS? 

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Ridiculous generalization
Date:	8/3/2015 3:50:49 PM

No, every Democrat isn't a Socialist... but it is probably accurate to describe the left wing of the party as being Democratic Socialists.  Nothing wrong with that, Democratic Socialist ideas like a safety net for elderly people (Medicare, Social Security), protections for poor people and programs to bring them out of poverty (Medicaid, welfare & public assistance programs), protections for ex-soldiers (the VA), free public schools, and universal access to healthcare... all of those are really good ideas with more in common with Socialism than Conservatism.   

So, no.   All Democrats are not confirmed Socialists, and suggesting that they are is straight out of yesteryear's scare tactics.... Beware the Commies, they are coming to get us!   Turns out that was a gross & hysterical exaggeration as well.

I could start a post stating that all Republicans are Nazi's.... but that would be ridiculous, too.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Ridiculous generalization
Date:	8/3/2015 4:00:53 PM

I have to agree Copperline.  I don't think broading sweeping generalizations serve well.  But, I don't know, maybe MM is trying on his Donald Trump hair and decided that if it was good enough for Donald, it was good enough for him.  You know, I have a good friend that is a Republican and serves in the legislature in Virginia.  We've talked politics lots of times and  I have never heard him express the same  views of Democrats as MM.  In fact, he became a politician becasue he cares deeply for people.  He believes in a government that works for the people and he is sincere in the represention of his contituates.  Retired AF Colonel (06) too. 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	NOT Ridiculous generalization
Date:	8/3/2015 4:51:41 PM

"I could start a post stating that all Republicans are Nazi's.... but that would be ridiculous, too." But, you could start a post with Some Republicans are Nazi's just as Some Democratts Are Socialists.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	MM - Did you hear the news?
Date:	8/3/2015 5:07:58 PM (updated 8/3/2015 5:08:34 PM)

Chris Matthews is a left wing host on Hardball on msnbc.  I think he used to work for Tip O'Neil and was the one that famously said back in 08 that he got a tingle up his legs from Obama.  On his show he asked Debbie Wasserman Shulz, who heads the DNC, if there was a difference and she would not answer.  Then she went on Meet the dePressed with Chuck Todd and was asked the same question and she would not answer.  Sorry for all the short hand.

As for the Hillary poll, I am amazed that so few distrust her.  She should be closer to 60% if people were really informed.  This email server business is about to blow up as we learn that she used a private email server to send classified information that we all know the Chinese, North Koreans, Russians and pretty much anyone with an elementary ability to hack now have everything.  She would be open to blackmail from hostile countries and this unbelievable lapse in judgment and dishonesty should be enough to disqualify her from any elected office, much less the presidency.  Just look at what happened to Petreus for having paper copies of secret docs in his desk at home.  Or the poor sap sailor that took pictures of his working on a sub and got caught with them on his cell phone.  That she is still the persumptive front runner says a lot about the modern Democrat party.  And that they are now appealing to Biden to get in says even more about the sorry state of their bench strength.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	NOT Ridiculous generalization
Date:	8/3/2015 5:34:22 PM (updated 8/3/2015 5:40:44 PM)

Maybe a better term than Nazi would be Corporatist which is what some people preferred to call the the pre-Nazi Fascist movements in Europe (especially Italy, Spain and Hungary in the late 20's / early 30's) because such movements put down unionism and boosted the big business class in return for support which included business's winking at some of the more outrageous actions of the Fascists. There is an easy case to be made that the corporate interest pull the strings of the today's GOP and have the nativest, T partiers and Evangelicals, all of whom should know better following, along like sheep.

Of course the craziest thing that MM said was that the GOP was "on the ascendency"!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	MM - Did you hear the news?
Date:	8/3/2015 8:20:26 PM

From what I'm hearing, there is more to come about foreign money being whitewashed though the Clinton Foundation.  I don't know if anyone can prove anything.  But, if it is true and anyone can come close to proving it, then she will certainly be toast.  I think Biden will jump in, but I don't think it will go anywhere. 

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	NOT Ridiculous generalization
Date:	8/3/2015 8:25:43 PM

I would be very careful about throwing around the term "Nazi".  Nazi is an emotionally charged word and it emcompasses far more than economics and politics as we all know.  Couldn't believe it when Huckabee started making analogies to Jews and ovens.  What a horrible analogy. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	MM - Did you hear the news?
Date:	8/4/2015 11:08:29 AM

That and influence peddling.  Apparently Hillary intervened for some foreign entities who magically started to pay huge sums for Bill to speak and made large donations to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation.  I really think we have only scratched the surface with the donations and the email server.  She is racing to get elected President before she is indicted for various crimes.  And this is the best the Democrat party can find?!?!?

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	MM - Did you hear the news?
Date:	8/4/2015 2:41:35 PM

I believe that she thinks that if she ignores it and insists it isn't true, it will just go away. Where as Bill would most likely throw up his hands and say "you got me", while oozing charm, she will resort to increasing adament denials and get more and more self righteous. 

Honestly, I look at all the candidates, and I mean, all, and think "is this the best we can do?"  Candidates need to be able to talk rather specifically about their approach to the complex issues facing this country domestically and internationally, instead of slinging mud at each other and the other party.  I think the candidates need to realize that the reason Trump is surging in the polls is because he doesn't act like a politician 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Interesting historical change in Dem party
Date:	8/4/2015 2:46:25 PM

“We Democrats believe that our economy can and must grow at an average rate of 5% annually, almost twice as fast as our average annual rate since 1953....We shall bring in added Federal tax revenues by expanding the economy itself.” -- 1960 Democratic Party Platform

“We will continue to use tax policy to maintain steady economic growth by helping through tax reduction to stimulate the economy when it is sluggish.” – 1968 Democratic Party Platform

“We reject ..the big government theory that says we can..tax and spend our way to prosperity..We honor business as a noble endeavor.” -- 1992 Democratic Party Platform

“Today's Democratic Party knows that the era of big government is over. Big bureaucracies and Washington solutions are not the real answers to today's challenges. We need a smaller government.” – 1996 Democratic Party Platform

“We have ended the era of big government; it’s time to end the era of old government…Democrats believe in supporting the startups, the small businesses, and the entrepreneurs that are making the New Economy go.” -- 2000 Democratic Party Platform

“We promise to cut taxes for 98% of Americans…We believe the private sector, not government, is the engine of economic growth and job creation.” -- 2004 Democratic Party Platform

“The American people do not want government to solve all our problems..We will shine a light on government spending.” -- 2008 Democratic Party Platform

“What is the difference between a Democrat and a socialist? I used to think there was a big difference. What do you think?”--MSNBC’s Chris Matthews to Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL)

“The difference between….the real question is what’s the difference between being a Democrat and being a Republican.” -- Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL), avoiding Matthews’ question