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Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 12:53:27 PM

Seen where they only graduate 50% of male athletes. Felons, DUI's and illiteracy makes for a proud program. Good thing they won that championship back in 1981.

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 1:25:38 PM

I think you mean 1980.

Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 1:38:49 PM

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 3:20:42 PM

I do not really care much about football anymore,am from the old times when we had Tucker Fredickson, Pat Trammall, Fran Tarkention, Fuffen Rodreg, Darwin Holt, Chick Granning. Money and the players that schools have to recruit in order to win with no regard to character. Most all schools are guilty of this. There exceptons to this, Bo Jackson, Herchel Walker, and a few more, this applies to other sports also. All one needs to do is observe when you watch a game, whether H.S. ,College or Pro. The Academic standards have been lowered to allow the people to play. So do not sinigle out one school.

Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 3:40:14 PM

I think you'll find 50% graduation rate at well below the national average. Combine that with multiple DUI and felony charges and Georgia smells bad. Very bad.

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/20/2006 4:00:09 PM

Like I say I really dont care, check out Vandys Graduation rate, they had the best 1/ 4 back in NCAA Football last year, in my opinion, cant win the SEC Championship. NO WAY. Ga, Fl, Auburn, Alabama Tennessee, ones no better than the other when it comes to cheating. The Auburn fans a upset the the DAWGS won the SEC Crown. Nothing changed the world situtation, get over it. GO FISHING.

Name:	ChrisCraft -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/21/2006 2:35:12 AM

Oh please ya'll. That reminds me of the "Drug Free School Zone" signs in front of every school in the county. Who are you trying to fool? Geez...the media is not...I repeat....NOT....an indicator of the truth.

Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/21/2006 11:09:32 AM

I think Georgia has a sad excuse for a football program. and it is mean to allow college kids to get a free ride to drink and drive and screw around and not graduate while others work hard to try and pay big money and graduate for their own education. While everyone whoops it up about their average football team. Something is wrong with that picture.

My father was a student athlete in basketball & baseball...Oglethorpe, 1930's. If it wasn't for that, he wouldn't have gone to college, gotten his degree, played in the Chicago Cubs program, coached, and by doing all of this improved himself to become successful in business when he left coaching. During his coaching and after, he helped many students get athletic scholarships. I certainly take a different view. Sure, maybe some aren't taking advantage...but for others, it may be a chance of a lifetime. It was for my dad and some of the boys he helped.

I do not really care much about football anymore,am from the old times when we had Tucker Fredickson, Pat Trammall, Fran Tarkention, Fuffen Rodreg, Darwin Holt, Chick Granning. Money and the players that schools have to recruit in order to win with no regard to character. Most all schools are guilty of this. There exceptons to this, Bo Jackson, Herchel Walker, and a few more, this applies to other sports also. All one needs to do is observe when you watch a game, whether H.S. ,College or Pro. The Academic standards have been lowered to allow the people to play. So do not sinigle out one school.

Lower standards? I think you forgot Jan Kemp...University of Georgia.. late 1970's and early 80's. She blew the whistle on athletes getting off too easy. Changed the entire admissions program and academic standards for players not only in Georgia, but around the nation. Today, even athletes have to have certain GPA's and SAT scores for admission and maintain a certain grade while in school (although it may not be really high, it certainly is HIGHER than it was. Plus athletes have access to tutors all the time)

Like I say I really dont care, check out Vandys Graduation rate, they had the best 1/ 4 back in NCAA Football last year, in my opinion, cant win the SEC Championship. NO WAY. Ga, Fl, Auburn, Alabama Tennessee, ones no better than the other when it comes to cheating. The Auburn fans a upset the the DAWGS won the SEC Crown. Nothing changed the world situtation, get over it. GO FISHING.

You can't compare Vandy with UGA and other public schools. Remember, it's private. It abides by different standards. It's like apples and oranges. Yea, they are all in the SEC, but that's just about all they have in common.

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Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	More on Dawgs
Date:	1/21/2006 5:54:10 PM

The era I was refuring to was before the Kemp issue. Look up Eddie McShan, who played for Ga. Tech in 1968 and see what kind of problems he caused there .

Name:	roswellric -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/22/2006 8:15:29 PM

Drewski either flunked out of GA or was rejected for admission. This venom is a little out of balance....

Name:	roswellric -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/22/2006 9:38:36 PM

you are just uniformed.......

Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 8:12:28 AM

Sorry. Wouldn't even apply to that school. Different standard of academics up North. And a much higher percentage of graduates.

Name:	roswellric -	Reply
Subject:	I shouldn't
Date:	1/23/2006 9:04:17 AM

have said that, sorry. Peace....

Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 10:19:55 AM

Drewski - don't be fooled by Southern SAT scores compared to Northen SAT scores. If you want to know more ....let me know. Or maybe you already know that the scores aren't comparable...and that's why it is showing that Georgia is 50th in the nation in SAT scores. whereas in the North they are stellar.

Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 4:42:15 PM

they have harder questions?

Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 4:58:17 PM

No, no. Same test. Simply put, when the Northeastern state students take the test, these students are students who are planning on going to college. When the Southern states have their students take the test, they are ALL students...even those NOT going to college, which bring average scores down. (Plus there is a test practice center on every corner [exagerration, but a lot] in the NOrtheast....not so in the South....

And the South tends to have the poorest inhabitants, therefore, it is also known that children whose parents have higher incomes tend to be able to travel and give them opportunities that less income parents have, and test scores and grades reflect this.

Therefore, if the Northeast and other states as well tested every one of their students, you might see the gap close. I don't know all the states who do this like Georgia, but there are many in the South. I don't know all the states in the Northeast or West who don't, but there are several. That's why you can't compare these scores.

Why Georgia does this, I don't know. I do know not to pay much attention to it because of who the test takers are. AND I know you know many from the South who have gone on and have gotten great academic scholarships at pretigious institutions as Sanford, Notre DAme, MIT, Ivy League schools, etc. from Southern public schools.

The University of California (probably Berkely), doesn't use the SAT any more for admission, I believe. The President of USC certainly doesn't believe in it.

If you knew all this, I apologize for rambling.

Name:	Ulysses E. McGill -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 5:59:03 PM

My son, a HS sophomore, just got his PSAT results. On his first attempt he scored over 200 points above the national average (for seniors) and he still has 2 years to improve. Many in his class (a public school) did just as well. The schools average is also above the national average.

I went to school at an expensive and private northern college. The education was good, but I'm sure a degree from Auburn, Florida, or UGA would have been just as good. In both college or HS, parent involvement and the kid’s motivation make the product .......regardless of the location
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Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/23/2006 7:05:22 PM

You are so right. Congrats on the good scores. My #1 only scored 1090 on SAT and still got $180,000 collective dollars towards several academic scholarships (Florida State, Steson, Alabama to name a few well known schools.) He didn't solicit any of it but from one private school (Stetson). The rest were public. Three schools offered him $40,000 each (one was FSU, which he took, but he didn't like FSU). UGA will look at GPA 2:1.
GPA is more important. Really. (Because what if you test well and score poorly? That shows you are capable but aren't living up to your potential.)

Schools are rated, too. High schools are part of the Freshman index score. So, you better hope one's high school has a good grade.

My favorite story to tell is a student I taught received almost - now get ready - almost ONE MILLION in academic scholarships offers....ONE PERSON!!!!!! He got partial here and partial there...good schools, too....Ivy's and West Coast. But was offered a full ride at MIssissippi State University. His parents were from there and his grandparents live there. And he's going into engineering and they have a good department. Don't laugh. I imagine after undergrad, he could go anywhere he wants for grad. His parents just couldn't afford it.

But cool, huh? Graduated from a public high school in Georgia. That kid is great. He's a sophomore now...well, maybe a Junior...he took tons of AP classes and advanced math classes.....and he's not from any ethnicity....a white boy.

Name:	Drewski -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/24/2006 7:53:46 AM

They say teacher is the most gratifying of careers. Certainly sounds like it in your case. Very nice.

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/24/2006 6:49:28 PM

Are you still teaching? If not why did you quite, since you are the savior in education. A million $`s in grants?????????????.BS.

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/25/2006 12:04:37 AM

If she QUIT (not "quite," you moron) it was probably because of the frustration that comes with being forced to promote students such as yourself, students who never should have advanced past second grade. There was a time when a student had to be able to actually do the required work to move on to the next grade; now school systems pressure the teachers to pass those students anyway, so that the schools themselves don't look bad. As a result, we have populated the country with illiterate, amoral backwoods morons (are your ears burning, Jim?) and more and more competent teachers are moving on to other jobs, in fields where their own morals won't be comprimised by "the system."

Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/25/2006 4:45:50 PM

I couldn't be a Savior in education...that's why I tell people when they are:

"Are you retired?"

I answer, ' No, I just tired."

I love to teach. But I can't teach like I'd like, thanks to No Child Left Behind. Do you really WANT me to get started with that? I don't think so. As an outsider, I would think you all think it's a good program. As an insider, it's just what creative teachers need: having the federal government telling us how to do our jobs in a little town. Like they know. Yea, right.

Look - I've been in education since 1977. And your question is?

Name:	jawjagal -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/25/2006 4:57:27 PM

JIm - why would I make this up?

Think about it: a 4 year scholarship to - let's say - the Air Force Academy would be between $180,000 and $240,0000...

Harvard - about $40,000+/year X's 4 - $160,000
and if he got ten out of state offers at this amount, that would put him over the one million. This young man is exceptional.

Remember, I said cumulative....I think probably 25 schools offered him SOMETHING to total almost 1 million. And to make my story better, I could have lied and said he had ONE MILLION. But he didn't (although it was in the $900,000 range.)

I was dumbfounded as well. But it's true. The highest total award I knew about from Salem High School in Conyers, Georgia before this guy's was given to a girl, African-American, in 2001, for arouind $700,000 total. She took the athletic scholarship to University of Virginia for soccer. How much would Virginia cost? A lot, and multiply that kind of price times about 10 other similar schools, which she was offered, and there you have it. Jim, you just don't know what is going on in today's high schools. Trust me.

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/25/2006 5:22:30 PM

Jim doesn't even know what's going on between his own ears, much less what goes on in high school.

Not that he has any reason to know what goes on in high school, since most of his posts scream "I never made it past third grade."

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/25/2006 5:27:21 PM

Never judge a book by it`s cover.

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/31/2006 1:52:34 AM

That would make a lot of sense (other than the grammatical error,) if you were a book.

However, you're not a book, and you don't have a cover. (Or do you? If your cover is "Ignorant Bumpkin," then you're quite convincing in the role.) So all we can judge you by is how you come across in your posts: an ignorant, uneducated, rude, boorish, jealous, hateful, spiteful moron.

But, I'm sure you have some good qualities too. Perhaps you're an organ donor, and haven't completely pickled every one of them yet. Or maybe... no, "possible organ donor" is the only good quality I can think of that you might posess.

Name:	JIM -	Reply
Subject:	I think
Date:	1/31/2006 8:44:51 AM

Thank you, you are a very good judge of character.

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