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lakngulf
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Bald Island
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2/6/2011 8:55:38 PM (updated 2/6/2011 9:01:40 PM)
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This development began, I think, as Eagles Point, then called Water's Edge, now should be Bald Island
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roswellric
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Bald Island
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2/6/2011 10:30:31 PM
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How do you imbed the pictures?
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MrHodja
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John C., Please Explain
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2/7/2011 7:49:25 AM
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Here is your answer to lakngulf's original post about this travesty:
"don't worry, they are trying to leave as many trees as possible. There
was a lot of junk, old construction debris, and dilapidated homes out
there that they had to clear out. "
Please explain - where are the trees they left? Looks like a clear cut to me.
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Tiger62
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Embedding photos...
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2/7/2011 8:42:45 AM
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The photo has to be on an internet server. It can't just be on your computer. Lots of folks put them on PhotoBucket. Then, when you're composing your post, click on the "Insert Item" photo icon and fill in the information about the location of your photo (the URL is the address) .
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lakngulf
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Photos
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2/7/2011 8:42:46 AM (updated 2/7/2011 9:09:04 AM)
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When you are typing a messge one of the selections is "Insert Item" It looks like a landscape picture. Click that and you will get a dialog box to enter the URL of the picture. To have an URL for a picture I upload my pictures to Photobucket.com. Once uploaded you can copy the URL and put it in the dialog box.
Takes me three or four tries to get it right.
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muddauber
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John C., Please Explain
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2/7/2011 9:32:25 AM
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That's about a 5 acre "island". Longer than wide in most places. To clean up those two ( or was it 3?) houses (not show, other side of island) they would have to remove trees to get equipment in there. Place was really overgrown.
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Talullahhound
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John C., Please Explain
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2/7/2011 10:37:56 AM
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Looks like a scape and build to me. Have they sold the first house or the other two that they just finished yet? Maybe they should wait and see if they sell before tearing up the landscape. Just my opinion.
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roswellric
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Thanks guys!
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2/7/2011 12:26:42 PM
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John C
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I will try
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2/7/2011 12:37:22 PM
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here is my attempt:
1. I am no engineer. Anything I say is just basically a guess from knowing the overall intentions of what is going on.
2. I too was surprised that they were not able to save more trees out on the point aka the "island," especially along the portion that looks south towards Sand Island. Only last week did I see the final product, when I filmed the last of my video series on concrete wall construction.
3. When I first walked this property with bank representatives and the architect, I guess over a year ago now, the #1 thing we all bemoaned was how few trees the original developers left on the first phase (where the two new homes are for sale now). It was not a nonchalant "gee I wish they had left more trees" it was to the level of "it makes me sick how they cut down those trees." Now, I will say this for the original developer, from what I remember there were a bunch of trailers there so maybe there weren't many to begin with.
4. There has been no seawall on the point, which is like 1,500 linear feet, for as long as I can remember, which is nearly 40 years. Maybe someone can correct me on this but I think it's safe to say that area has had no seawall for at least 30 years. I didn't see any evidence when the lake was down, either.
5. That is a big water area that gets lots of wave action therefore lots of erosion. It has been eroding for a long time.
6. So when the bank "inherited" this a year or so ago - they had a choice to make. Do I put up a wall now, stop the erosion now, and start the healing now? Or do I get to look at those big pines 2 more years before I lose them to erosion. Either way, they are coming down. No stopping water and wave action.
7. Sure, in a perfect world you would like to save every tree there. But I can tell you, from knowing the decision makers, if they took a tree down, it was because they had to in order to secure the land. And it pained them to do so.
8. Was I there for every decision made on every tree? Nope. But I am telling you, I know their hearts.
9. Therefore my reaction is - I hate it more than anyone. But - those trees' fate was sealed 10 or even 5 years ago when the then owner(s) did not control their erosion. Hey, maybe they didn't have the funds or whatever. I don't know, and am not judging. But you certainly can't fault the present owner for a die that was cast long before they were in the picture.
Call me biased, I know. But I think they made the right move, dealing with the cards they were dealt.
URL: Seawall Construction Part 3
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John C
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John C., Please Explain
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2/7/2011 12:52:23 PM
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Tallulahound, I can definitely see where you think it might be a scrape and build. But I can tell you, on the inside of that island portion, there were not many trees at all. It was sort of an overgrown, weed filled, brushy situtation with a leveled off place on the top. The trees mostly were 2 or 3 deep around the edge of where the water had eroded to.
Yes, the 2 homes are still for sale and we have a ton of interest in them now that they are done and we are pointing towards spring. I think those 2 homes are a testament to the intentions of the current owner. They chose not to comple the slabs by slapping up some ugly, out of place McSpec house, nor did they go with the original developers' intentions (huge homes priced at $1 mill).
Instead they brought in architect that has earned a great reputation around Lake Martin and the southeast for designing tasteful, sustainable, land friendly homes. He literally redesigned those homes from the ground up to make them lower impact, more lake friendly, and certainly more affordable ($529k). If you look at the homes (which I would be proud to show you or anyone) it is obvious that the architect poured tons of time and the builder tons of effort to make them nice, something that the neighbors would welcome to their side of the lake.
URL: Video: Water's Edge Lot 2
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Aardvark
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Bald Island
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2/7/2011 2:20:20 PM
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I think I will keep the 50 year old Jim Walter glorified single wide with the lot full of trees. It is paid for, is not right next to the neighbors, and nobody knows we are because of all of the trees.
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Talullahhound
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Thanks for the video tour
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2/7/2011 3:36:07 PM
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I agree that the architect did the best that could be done working with the footprint that was already there. The view is incomparable. However, I think a lot of buyers will be turned off by how close the other house is to it. Realize that the current builder has to work with what was there.
But, given the economy and the market I just wonder the wisdom of proceeding to develop the property. A "lot of interest" isn't a sale. But, I'm not a real estate developer or a sales professional, so I defer my opinion.
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John C
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Thanks for the video tour
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2/7/2011 3:48:26 PM
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I don't think they are trying to develop anything. To my knowledge, all construction activity you see is related to the seawall. They are not developing the point. I agree, they would rather sell the 8 lots that they have ready right by the homes for sale than go make other lots.
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you can also pull pictures off of facebook and other sites.
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