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Name:   lotowner - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 6:57:10 AM


This nation cannot and must not continue to promote a welfare mentality. Breaking the cycle will not be easy. Look at Wisconsin, Ohio, and several other states. Free baby deliveries, food stamps, baby sitting, telephones, medical care for Whites, Blacks, and illegal Hispanics is considered by most of this group to be guaranteed by the constitution as a right. Be ready for street fighting in order to bring under control. We've done a good job in training this group since Johnson's Great Society.

Welfare State: Handouts Make Up One-Third of U.S. Wages

Government payouts—including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance—make up more than a third of total wages and salaries of the U.S. population, a record figure that will only increase if action isn’t taken before the majority of Baby Boomers enter retirement.

Even as the economy has recovered, social welfare benefits make up 35 percent of wages and salaries this year, up from 21 percent in 2000 and 10 percent in 1960, according to TrimTabs Investment Research using Bureau of Economic Analysis data.

“The U.S. economy has become alarmingly dependent on government stimulus,” said Madeline Schnapp, director of Macroeconomic Research at TrimTabs, in a note to clients. “Consumption supported by wages and salaries is a much stronger foundation for economic growth than consumption based on social welfare benefits.”

The economist gives the country two stark choices. In order to get welfare back to its pre-recession ratio of 26 percent of pay, “either wages and salaries would have to increase $2.3 trillion, or 35 percent, to $8.8 trillion, or social welfare benefits would have to decline $500 billion, or 23 percent, to $1.7 trillion,” she said.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 9:31:24 AM

How do you propose to do this? I notice the author of the article says "we must" but offers no ideas about how this should be done. And where will you find politicians with the intestinal fortitude to enact the legislation? When will those who are currently accepting social security as part of their "right" stand up and refuse it? If we eliminated social security for those who have other sources of retirement income, we would significantly reduce the cost of the program.



Name:   Old Crappie - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 12:08:05 PM

Typical liberal response. With few exceptions everyone is forced to pay into the Social Security System. The more you make the more you pay into the system and the less you get back. Since you don't receive Social Security why don't you give back $30,000 of your bloated Federal Retirement to help out your cause?



Name:   Old Crappie - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 12:16:46 PM

What should really occur is that we make able bodied welfare recipients "earn" their check. If they had to report to an appointed place to do menial work for 40 hrs a week they would soon figure out that they could make more money by having a real job. It would install a work ethic in them and get them off of the welfare rolls. Too many generations of welfare cheats are sucking this country dry. -----And the end is near.



Name:   turkey man - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 3:06:38 PM


i agree ! however, most taxpayers don't realize that when welfare stared, it was the first of re-distribution of wealth.when current administration started putting 99 weeks of unemployment out there to give tax dollars to the retailers to keep the economy from collapsing, it added even more to welfare when it expired. this is what socialist want..dependence on big government and kill the private sector where there are no union dues to keep the dems in control.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 3:32:35 PM

I don't think it is a liberal response. The article portends that "social Security" is a welfare program, so if in fact that is the case, those who don't support welfare programs should be free to stand up and refuse it. By your comments Crappie, I assume you receive SS, yet you are yelling that we are creating a welfare state by giving unemployment. It's a typical response to "take that guys benefit, but don't touch mine". I love it when conservative right wingers get on their soap box. As far as my giving up my retirement, no, I won't be doing that. For one, I'm not the one complaining about welfare programs. Secondly, I PAID 7 & 8 percent of my income into my retirement system for my entire career. I'm sorry you are jealous and resentful of my retirement. But in fact, I could give up my retirement entirely and not change my standard of living. I still pay more in federal taxes than many people make in a year. But, I'm not resentful of those who need the short term help of the government.



Name:   Old Crappie - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 3:49:29 PM

The "rich" social security payers paid 7% of their pay too but you want them to give up their "retirement" that they earned so you should give up your Federal retirement too. I said nothing about unemployment, but the long term welfare has to stop.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Welfare Nation
Date:   3/9/2011 4:35:48 PM

In that, we are in agreement. Long term welfare is an issue that needs to be dealt with.







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