Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	More evidence to dispute
Date:	11/29/2020 4:20:19 PM

Reasons why 2020 results are so puzzling:

* Biden’s black support fell WELL below 90%- a level which Dem candidates usually lose

* Trump increased his black support by 50% over 2016 plus outperformed his Hispanic support over 2016

* Biden won a record LOW 524 counties as opposed to Obama winning 873 counties.....60% of his number

* Yet Biden beat the Obama vote totals ONLY in EXACTLY the locations that was necessary in order to secure victory

* Biden did not have down ballot coattails

* Wheras the Republicans will likely hold the Senate and in fact won a large number of House seats while winning 100% of the 27 toss up seats

* The R’s did not lose a single state legislature......in fact they made gains

* Trump got 11 million MORE votes than he did in 2016

* While Obama was comfortably re-elected with 3.5 million LESS votes than in 2008

* But Trump lost?????!!!!!

Hmmmmmmmm, maybe.............

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	HUMMMMMMMMMM yes, Trump lost!
Date:	11/29/2020 8:10:30 PM (updated 11/29/2020 8:14:06 PM)

Why, because Biden got more votes.  He won WI, MI, PA, and GA by getting a larger vote thanks mostly to getting a greater percentage of the suburban vote in all 4 states.  Compare Cobb and Gwinnett in GA 2020 vs 2016.  The Dems made big gains in 2018 because in a midterm election the only way suburban women (housewives?) could punish Trump was by voting for Democrats up and down the Ballot.  They lost ground down ballot in 2020 because those same suburban women could punish Trump himself rather doing it by voting against down ballot Republicans.  If you look you will find that most, even deep red states, and counties were at least a few shades more toward blue this year compared with 2016 as far as the presidential choice.  A very large majority of counties in GA moved several percenage points toward the Democratic Presidential choice this year compared with 4 years ago.  I know you hate it but, BIDEN WON BY OVER 6.2 MILLION POPULAR VOTES AND BY AN E.V. MAJORITY THAT TRUMP CALLED A ''LANDSLIDE'' IN 2016!

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	Simple Question
Date:	11/29/2020 8:16:04 PM

Do you think there was any fraud in those 4 states you mentioned in the 2020 Presidential election?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Let Me Answer Your Simple Question
Date:	11/29/2020 10:26:54 PM

Yes, but not enough to overturn the election. Time to move on...Biden will be President on January 20th. It sucked when Trump won by a margin of around 100,000 votes in 3 key states in 2016. But, we lived with it for 4 years with TDS. You and your fellow Trumpsters can suck it up and do the same for the next 4 years with alittle BDS.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Ditto GF
Date:	11/30/2020 8:36:06 AM (updated 11/30/2020 8:41:49 AM)

and such minimal fraud applies to AL and WV and FL and NC and all the other red states as well as the 4 I mentioned.  Anytime there are millions of votes involving human beings there will be a few people on both sides willing to bend the rules...I personally know 2 of them and they are both staunch Republicans.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	More evidence to dispute
Date:	11/30/2020 8:44:23 AM

Even worse is that Biden miraculously outperformed with blacks and Hispanics in every major city except Detroit, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Philly and Atlanta......all locations which halted the vote count in the middle of the night only to suddenly see spikes in Biden votes that were statistically impossible.  In essence he had massive vote leads exactly where he needed them to carry these states in a most suspicious manner.  I will never be convinced that Biden won this election.  The question is can we prove it in time and can we prevent the same level of fraud in future elections?

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	Martini Menace
Date:	11/30/2020 9:08:20 AM

Of course you will never be convinced. Just like your masks don't work mantra. Also your belief that all this talk of COVID will go away the day after the election. You are truly a menace to the health and safety of the people around you and the folks that cheer you on this forum.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	RHH Stupidity
Date:	11/30/2020 9:16:28 AM

At least we are both consistent.  And no, masks do not work as evidenced by their massive use in the U.S. and the surge in cases.  You can't fix scientific illiteracy when you see the facts in front of your face and refuse to accept it.  And no, I will never accept this election because it was rife with massive fraud.  I know it, you know it....we all know it.  You just refuse to see the facts presented to you because you are invincingly ignorant.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Even more evidence to dispute
Date:	11/30/2020 9:22:42 AM (updated 11/30/2020 9:24:52 AM)

And notice that leftists have zero answers to these impossibilities......because there is only one explanation.  Fraud...massive fraud....just where it was needed in the most suspicious circumstances.  Imagine if the reverse were true and you applied all these circumstances to a Trump win.  Leftists would be burning down the cities....something that has not happened.

1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers

2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio

3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions

4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures

5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’

6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing

7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes

8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law

9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.

Name:	Smitty -	Reply
Subject:	Even more evidence to dispute
Date:	11/30/2020 10:52:53 AM

MM -  pure crap.  you lost.  Man up.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 11:10:41 AM

As I stated and Smitty has provided only the latest example, they have zero response to these impossibilities.  I would note that none of us complained about massive fraud in either of Obama's wins.  While there was the usual fraud it was not on the scale of this election.

Again, I am happy to hear your evidence that explains all these......but I doubt any are forthcoming.  And I can't blame you because the only logical explanation is fraud...massive fraud.  Prove me wrong.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 11:20:38 AM

It is fun to watch people who have bitched about Russia and stealing elections for 4 years head immediatly to no fraud, election with only the usual amount of fraud, and you just need to shutup and man up(like they did not for the last 4 years).

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 11:31:35 AM

Yeah, self awareness is not exactly an attribute of left wing nuts...nor is logic, critical thinking or intellectual honesty.  And they are completely immune from seeing their own abject hypocrisy.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 1:06:38 PM

With all this "EVIDENCE", why have all the courts ruled against Rudy?  You are riding a dead horse...What happened to Silva's conspiracy? 

There was a time you made some sense but now you are over into lala land and looking rather foolish. I hope you don't sit in the office and pontificate these "talking" points. They will laugh at you behind your back.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 1:51:16 PM

It isn't due to a lack of evidence.  There's plenty of evidence and the court battles are just beginning.  As I said from the outset I doubt there is sufficient time to obtain and present the evidence and I doubt the fraudulent election will be decided correctly.  But it ain't over until the Electoral College speaks and that has not happened.  When it does it will then be over......but not until then.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Thanks for proving my point
Date:	11/30/2020 3:21:55 PM (updated 11/30/2020 3:24:23 PM)

Agree that it is a lot of long shots to change the direction of this train - I am sure that when it was Bush v Gore they were all for those recounts and court challanges - and the idiots on the left for every year since claiming it was "stolen"  

Just like it was stolen from Hillary, by the Russian - that Hitleries team pulled out of thin air and attempted to overturn that election.

When it goes against them it is stolen, Russia, enter excuse here -  when it goes for them it was honest and fair, shut up and deal with it.

It has been the same song for as long as I have lived.

If the long shots do not pay off we can look forward to listening to everyone blame Trump and Covid for everything that Harris/Biden screws up for 4 years and like Obama not have to answer for anything from the media or their cult.  We can look forward to GFY/RHH/Antifatech having their lips locked to the leftist governments fannies- as they post not a scandal, not a lie that was uttered by their deities.

Hopefully the House stays really tight(saw a R got another seat recently) and forces the leftists back to middle ground and if Senate  holds together after the GA runoffs, it can help keep the Biden swamp from the so far left turn that we wonder when we moved to Venezuela.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 12:35:45 AM (updated 12/1/2020 12:39:53 AM)

Phil, that low life you voted for and then vomited will be gone on January 20, 2021. It will be interesting to see where his "Library" is located. Maybe, in Four Seasons Landscaping and Melania can sell tickets to "Come Meet The EX President...live and lying as usual...orange hair....in his orange jumpsuit... on parole...tickets Cyber Monday $99 and all other days FREE.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 9:18:16 AM

At least with my vote I did not sell my country out to the Chinese, Iran and set Hunter up to be sitting on more boards that he is unqualified for other then kicking funds back to the big guy.

I am glad you feel like gloating, we can now return to the high levels of racial divide that Obama brought us and low expectations.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 10:10:14 AM

The interesting thing for me is that when Trump won I was very happy but had two big reservations.  First, would he really govern as a conservative given his mixed record.  Second, would he do the GOP what Obama did to the Democrats?  Both of those were big questions/concerns I had although I was 100% convinced that he would be massively better than the corrupt and incompetent hag they nominated.  On both scores I can say I was more than pleasantly surprised.  Regardless of what happens this year and with the runoffs in GA I think Dems are in for a rough ride in 2022.  If we can win down ballot as much as we did in 2020 I can only imagine what will happen in two years.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 10:17:28 AM

Will not matter - if they get away with this election fraud they will just rinse and repeat.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 10:28:21 AM

Hope you're wrong but I am not brimming with confidence.  Just look at GA.  I wonder if Kemp even cares if he gets reelected.  In fact it would not surprise me if he returns to the private sector.  One thing I know for sure is that our current SOS is toast. He will be primaries and righlty so.  His secret consent decrees without the involvement of the legislature was an abysmal and corrupt decision.  Would not surprise me in the least if he was bribed by Dominion to buy their machines.  

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	PHIL Just Think
Date:	12/1/2020 10:38:42 AM

If Sidney Powell is to be believed the SOS and GUV were both bought off by Dominion.  

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Lin Wood ain't playing games
Date:	12/1/2020 10:57:51 AM

I don't do twitter but I cut and pasted this from Lin Woods twitter page as posted elsewhere.  I also saw him on TV stating he is a defamation lawyer and dares the guv/sos to sue him. Supposedly they have the finacial trail of the money and what went where.  IF we had and AG worth a damn they would be in fromt of  agrand jury already.

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In times of crisis you find out who the real Republicans are GA Gov @BrianKempGA and AZ Gov @dougducey are what we call “traitors”

 

 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Just Proved The Point And MM Supported Them
Date:	12/2/2020 1:18:44 PM

We finally agree that you can't trust Republicans. They line their pockets and make Dems look like amateurs. And, just think Martini supported those crooks from GA including thief Price who resigned as a crook from his cabinet post. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Just Proved The Point And MM Supported Them
Date:	12/2/2020 1:28:01 PM

Quick question for you goofy.  Where did the last two mayors of Atlanta end up?  Unlike you we call out corruption regardless of party affiliation.  Time will tell whether these claims have any merit and if they do they need to be indicted.....period.  That's because we have values unlike Democrats where this would be a resume enhancer. 

Also curious if you were aware that the voter registration organizations run by Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock are under criminal investigation for voter fraud?  Somehow I doubt it since you think that when Barr said there was no evidence of substantial fraud to date it meant there was no fraud and they were done investigating.  That's what you get for getting your news from the govt media....makes you ignorant at best.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Just Proved The Point And MM Supported Them
Date:	12/2/2020 5:36:51 PM

You need to understand that I am not a Registered Democrat who supports crooked Democrats.  I am registered as an Independent who voted for Biden and my Republican Congressman. It shall be interesting to see if Trump pardons his kids for crimes the did not commit. I do think the 2 Georgia Senators are crooks based on enriching themselves as members of the Senate.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Just Proved The Point And MM Supported Them
Date:	12/3/2020 8:32:06 AM (updated 12/3/2020 8:33:11 AM)

I agree he should not have to pardon his kids for "Crimes they did not commit" but since we know that Biden is going into office and was part of the spying on the Trump campaign that tortured Carter Page, Gen Flynn  and others for 4+ years, ruined his life, drained his bank accounts - with the calls from Demonrats already to find anything and everything to charge anyone who was in the Trump administration or even down to civilians who voted for him to be either charged or sent to re-education camps.

I can see why he might need to - to keep people like you(as well as the re-tread Obama admin) from pushing for a prosectution where a crime never existed but firing up the Obama/Biden colonoscopy that they used after Trump beat Hillary.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Just Proved The Point And MM Supported Them
Date:	12/3/2020 9:24:38 AM (updated 12/3/2020 9:26:03 AM)

If you voted for Biden you do indeed support crooked Democrat politicians.  But you probably don't know that because the govt media concealed it from the American public.  And unlike the 1 in 6 Democrats that said had they known about this they wouldn't have voted for Biden.....you would.....and did.   You basically voted for Xi, the Mullahs and Rocket Boy......well done Mr. Independent.  So please save your haughty lectures for someone else that agrees with your America last approach to the world.