Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 10:36:05 AM

When you read the whistleblower account and the actual transcript it is mind boggling the glaring differences.  This is why Dems were foolhardy to move ahead based on a media report of a document they never saw about a conversation which they never read the transcript of.  The notes from the call blew up in their faces and the report is doing likewise despite their weak attempts to spin it.  And now they have answer as to why what Biden did was not a problem and why three Democrat Senators doing what they did is not a problem.....but what Trump did was.

Some key issues from the report:

• The whistleblower was a partisan
• The whistleblower was not a party to any of the discussions
• The reported nature of the call was wildly different than how it was characterized from his allegedly numerous and credible sources.  Did they all mischaracterize the content of the call in the same way or did he/she just make it up?

There was no quid pro quo, the bulk of the conversation was not about Biden or his son, they did not get mentioned 8 times and on and on.  No wonder the IG concluded no issue after investigating the allegation.  They probably saw all the same glaring errors and false statements by the so-called whistleblower.  More deep state antics feeding the govt media and Democrats TDS and they fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 10:44:04 AM

I often wonder if they are reading a completely different document.  Right now I'm watching Congress try to twist the words of the DNI to suit their purposes.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 12:14:41 PM

I am watching as well - I need comic relief from reviewing security training plans and vulnerability Management plans.  Schiff should know not to go head to head with a retired Vice Admiral.  The Dems are doing themselves in. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 1:31:24 PM (updated 9/26/2019 1:33:35 PM)

Assuming that the nutburger "whistleblower" was not just sitting around the lunch table witha bunch of libs and cherry picking what information he could spin to make his case.  Probably as with Russia Russia Russia, whoever one of those alphabet intelligence agencies figured if they got a good story together and told it to enough people then someone would leak it in attempt 478 to get Trump.

As I have not finished reading it personally yet, since Antifatech has already come out to say it is a Double Whopper with cheese, onion rings, shake and an apple pie - it is just as nothingburger as the the rest of the attempts.  The only positve is that it makes the Demonrats look like unhinged liberals bent on getting this president at any cost.

The closer we get to election someone may need to put Antifatech on suicide watch.

It is also being reported that the whistleblower is doing everything to keep his name from being released - As we have heard many times,what does he have to hide?  If he was testifying against a Clinton we know why he would want to keep his head down.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 1:55:40 PM

Started to see lots of news articles about the whistleblower and that "the call was locked down" in a secure system, which was unheard of and that was just suspicious....

I wonder was this around the time that transcripts of Trumps calls with other world leaders were hitting the news stands?  If so why the hell would he not lock it down, and probably locked every damn call up to keep the Oblamer leftovers and intelligence community liberals from undermining every thing he was doing at every turn.

If this crap had happened to Saint Oblamer -  Antifatech and GFY would have screamed the loudest.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 2:04:55 PM (updated 9/26/2019 2:07:40 PM)

Letter dated august 12th

"over the past 4 months" so since around April we have been talking about the "July 25th" phone call that had not taken place till last month.....

But my echo chamber friends have been telling me for years about OrangeMan Bad.

Damn they found the demonrat time machine that I keep hearing about that keeps going back and writing racists tweets and posts 10 years ago - because they would never say such horrible things.

Damn and I am only around page 2.  Someone tell me it gets better then this BS.

IMPEACH!!!!!!!  Trump has set them up with this and they fell for it.  If anything maybe we can get Mr Whistleblower before congress and find out who his "sources" were and investigate them.  I would not be suprised if another Strozk type who is still listening to all calls and spinning faster then a ride at Six Flags.

Reads more like a butt hurt liberal who got sacked and wants to get even.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	THE FORUM SPIN ROOM
Date:	9/26/2019 2:09:20 PM

Just a snarky remark...why does Trump's WH have 2 computer files for transcripts? Sounds like Watergate....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	THE FORUM SPIN ROOM
Date:	9/26/2019 2:20:30 PM

It was not for "transcripts" but for classified information - you do not keep classified info on a non-classified system, but if you have reason to believe that butthurt liberals are leaking your "non-classified" information you could move it to the other to limit which insane loonie has access.  I am sure that many of our former government types on the board could fill us in that 2 systems is pretty much the norm in basically any place that deals with sensitive or classified information.  

Wix is right it is like shooting fish in a barrel

OMG I love section 4 

Around March The Hill publication indicated that the Ukraine possessed information about inteference in the 2016  presidential election, that someone had a do not prosecute list and was blocking evidence from getting to the US regarding the election meddling - possible including an investigation "quashed" by VP Biden, and should deliver it directly to the AG because they were being stopped from passing on evidence.  

Are we sure this is supposed to target Trump and not take Biden out of the race?  

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	BINGO, you win the prize
Date:	9/26/2019 2:54:30 PM

Biden is toast but he was toast months ago.  I suppose Hillary will have to come to the DNC rescue!

much more dastardly info coming out soon on this decades long conspiracy.  

Why would anyone trust the DNC?  This nasty business and they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.  No better who done it. 

BTW where are the IG’s and the other reports on the Russia investigation?  Who is crowdsource?  A very slippery group.  

Where my popcorn?!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	BINGO, you win the prize
Date:	9/26/2019 3:27:12 PM

Well I did make one mistake in my previous post - you do not keep classified information on a non classified system - UNLESS YOU ARE HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That may be why GFY was so confused that there are levels of classifications and you treat them diffrently - for 8 years they were all sitting around in the unclassified system!!!!!!!

Shooting fish in a barrel or baiting them in with food and using explosives?

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Surely you folks are aware that
Date:	9/26/2019 4:28:56 PM (updated 9/26/2019 4:32:29 PM)

the whistle blower report, which received considerable positive comment from the DNI, was not about the phone call.  It was about a WH cover-up of the substance of the phone call and other numerous other actions of the president and that the cover-up was at the direction of Trump.  The whistle blower report has as its central point the ''requirement'' of the president that he would not talk to the Ukraine president until he agreed to ''playball'' with the WH.  If you folks don't see this as a serious problem for this man you are for damn sure either ''whistling past the graveyard'' or you do not understand the English language.  The phone call is bad news, the whistle blower report is a disaster!

BTW:  Who besides MM, Trump and his FOX axx kissers have determined the whistle blower is a ''partisan''?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Surely you folks are aware that
Date:	9/26/2019 5:02:29 PM (updated 9/26/2019 5:03:07 PM)

So was Biden telling Ukraine that he was going to withhold AID if they did not fire someone rising the same level as your indignation? 

Please enlighten us to how that is different.

OMG they put the transcripts somewhere that the intelligence community could not get to and leak to the press as they had numerous times before - COVERUP!!!! WATERGATE!!! IMPEACH!!!!, Looks like he was right to move the files as this Whistleblower appears to be CIA and a member of the IC assigned to the WhiteHouse - imagine that, he was able to write about it 3rd hand and got all this attention.  I think you just made the case for why POTUS was right to start putting stuff out of the hands of the IC - they can not be trusted, Comey, McCabe, Whistleblower - Russia, Ukraine etc all for political attacks and the IC/CIA/FBI reputations are in tatters because they can not get over the fact that Hillary lost, just like you.  You support the COUP of an elected president, and the only reason this is going on now is because of the fear that dems will not win the Whitehouse in 2020.  This should be considered as what it is - MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION 2020 just as they attempted to do with the RUSSIA hoax in 2016.

I think I just found the difference.  Trump wanted his communications with world leaders private and knowing that the IC community as I think Schift for Brains said will find any number of ways to get you if they want to - would leak it, put it out of their hands.

Biden on the other hand BRAGGED TO the CFR that he had the prosecutor sacked and implicated Oblamer in his threat.

It must be the secrecy that is different.  Democrats BRAG about the illegal activities and seem to get away with it, but since I started to see Ukraine information in the news over the last few weeks - his poll #s are going down and down and down. 

You murdered your "middle of the road" canidate and now are left with the possiblilty of Bernie and left of Bernie.   You should be proud.  You should no longer have to lie about what you want - just admit that you want pure socialism and  AOC is the background on your computer.  

Since the IC community can care less about your secrecy you can come clean and embrace the new socialist agenda of the democrats.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 5:38:11 PM

I didn't do it......."I did not have sexual relations with that woman"   WJC 1/26/98

It doesn't matter if I did it, because it wasn't wrong......"it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is." WJC 8/17/98

The person who ratted me out should be shot.....Linda Tripp's lawyers founded the National Whistleblower Center in order to protect individuals who tell the truth and experience a "high tech lynching", much like she experienced from "ruthless" HRC.

I imagine this is what your meme was referring to, right Doe?

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	For someone
Date:	9/26/2019 6:34:30 PM

with such a limited attention span, you have a remarkable ability to pull together historical snippets in a vain attempt to create a false equivalency.

Borne out by the incomplete, sanitized "transcript" of a phone conversation released by the administration and by publicly-known facts, #45 withheld essential military aid - that had been authorized by Congress, and that he has no authority to withhold - to a US ally in an overt attempt to extorted an assurance from the president of that country that they would "look into" #45's political opponent.

It is abundantly clear that people like yourself will not change your views - at least, not your publicly-expressed viiews - no matter how egregious the misconduct by #45. You are either sufficiently gullible to be completely deluded by his fraud, or you are simply too embarrasssed to admit what is so obviously the case.

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	What will you say
Date:	9/26/2019 8:23:59 PM

when the real truth via the IG report and the external investigations are released.  ??. You will be rewarded with embarrassment!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	So many inconsistencies
Date:	9/26/2019 9:28:50 PM

Yeah it was a real circus.  Shiff should be fired.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Are you aware that Bill Clinton is no longer
Date:	9/26/2019 10:58:50 PM (updated 9/26/2019 11:00:19 PM)

unwrapping cigars in the Oval Office? Did your mommy not teach you that 2 wrongs never make a right?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Are you aware that Bill Clinton is no longer
Date:	9/27/2019 8:44:25 AM

Unwrapping cigars?  is that a reference to Lewenski and her "humidor"?