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Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 9:42:10 AM

http://www.naturalnews.com/035478_freedom_tyranny_philosophy.html

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 10:39:21 AM

That was well said. Thanks.

Name:	Barneget -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 11:13:54 AM

Ditto what Copperline said. The article captures some of my own thoughts, along with a few personal advocacy positions.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 1:50:37 PM

After I read this piece, I had to start thinking about what personal freedom really means, and how willing would I be to live with complete personal freedom. Can a society ever be completely free and not result in chaos?

Name:	4691 -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 3:27:03 PM

Exactly. I think of it as a ring instead of the conventional line with conservatism and liberalism on either end. The far right and the far left eventually converge; each requiring totalitarianism to rule. In my old age I've become much more tolerant in my social views and acceptance of others that are "different" while becoming even more conservative in my fiscal positions. On social issues my far right friends call me a RINO because I (think for myself and) do not allow Rush et al. to dictate my opinions. When in fact it is my belief that personal freedom trumps my personal opinions. The government (and neighbors) should stay out of your personal business and mine.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/8/2012 11:53:15 PM (updated 4/9/2012 12:02:01 AM)

Thanks for this post Hound. Frankly, this guy comes across as a nut and weirdo!...Even so I agree with him at least 95%. His bottom line seems to boil down to be that it is hard to be for personal freedom while being a hypocrit. That I agree with 100%.

Hound you also raise a good question...what is the separation, if any, between complete personal freedom and anarchy. We may all agree that freedom must be tempered by some mutually agreed social order. That is where politics and hypocrisy come into the mix and we are back to "Don't do as I do, do as I say do."

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Read this if you believe in "Freedom"
Date:	4/9/2012 2:49:06 PM

Part of the problem we have in this world is that "freedom" is not the ability to do anything we want, but freedom should be to do what we "ought". There is no doubt in my mind that a purely libertarian view of the world (i.e., one taken to its extreme) would result in anarchy. There is in my mind a proper role for the government that is consistent with the concepts of the founders. In general, the further you get from the people the more limited government should be. So for example, if a city government wants to ban abortion, allow gay marriage and require all citizens to own a gun all at the same time and they can get it passed, while I may disagree with any one of them it is up to them. If the citizens of that city don't like these laws they can vote them out or worst case, they can simply move to the adjacent city that doesn't have a law they object to. As for state government it should necessarily be more limited than local government because their decisions impact more people than they actually may be closely connected to. As for the federal government it should be the most limited of all because frankly when they pass laws and issue new regulations it impacts the entire country and our only recourse as an individual is our one vote and the voting with our feet by leaving the U.S. We have seen this happen in spades with big corporations that go to other countries with lower tax rates and regulations. Unfortunately over the last 50 years our federal government has become way too intrusive, overbearing and expensive. The problem actually started with Abe Lincoln but really accelerating with FDR. Since then both Democrats and Republicans have shared in this grotesque growth in government to one degree or another. So when the federal government intrudes on the proper role of local government it is our duty and obligation to push back.

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