Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 9:26:37 AM

Election fraud?  Rigged elections?   Who can believe that?

Just look at history.    

Show me one example of an election when a professional wrestling promoter beats out a dozen more qualified & experienced candidates and ends up running for President.  

Opps……What a minute…..

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 11:23:09 AM

What's your point?

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 11:58:19 AM

CL,

You make this too easy.  I am extremely disappointed in you.  Election fraud and rigging can occur in more places than at the ballot box.  Do you mean to deny that Bernie's loss was not in the DNC cards from the beginning? It was surely rigged.  Emails to prove it.  It caused the removal of DWS from her position, (although she was given a cushy position in Shillary's campaign for being a good surrogate).  Do you remember where GWB was given veto power over articles about him appearing in the NYT's?  I don't.  Do you remember a debate moderator crowing in an email about his treatment of BHO to CNN?  You don't, you say.  Well go look at the emails from John Harwood.  Do you remember GWB's campaign manager getting a heads up about a piece that CNN was going to air and giving him the opportunity to make changes?  You don't , you say.. Well go look at the emails from Podesta to CNN and vice versa.  You see, if you get your news from limited sources, you aren't aware of what really is happening ibehind the scenes because your news sources are choosing to bury it.  That to me is rigging.  Plain and simple.  Wholeheartedly agree with Trump.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 4:50:33 PM (updated 10/19/2016 4:58:41 PM)

Hey CRD, you are right...election fraud does not just occur at the ballot box.  Media ''bias'' is not voter fraud...if that was so Lush Windbag, Hannity, and any number of rightwing talkers not to mention Fox News would have been in court years ago!

Also, remember the actual miniscule voter fraud that does occur does not always help the Democrats.  In the 2 instances of election fraud of which I have personal knowledge (via absentee ballots cast by a dead woman's daughter and a demented man's wife) they benefited the GOP.  In the only case of verifiable voter fraud uncovered by an investigation by the WI Secty of State a single man voted 14 times...for GOP Gov Scott Walker.  Every investigation into voter fraud has showed that the easiest way to commit voter fraud is through the absentee ballot laws which typically permit ballots to be ordered online with no proof of who is ordering the ballot and certainly no picture ID required.  In states where voters register by party, over 60% of the absentee ballot requests come from voters registered as GOP. 

I'll bet you love and think the picture ID laws now being passed by GOP legislatures all over America are great to cut down on the ''vast'' voter fraud occuring across the nation.  Well nobody else has been able to explain this to me, maybe you can...in most of these states it is possible for a person to get the voter picture ID by producing the same type verification info that used to be accepted at the polling place at the time of voting. That info does NOT include any picture.  Please explain how that does not simply shift the fraud potential to a different venue...the voter registration office or DMV instead of the polling place?  Every person who wants to drive a car has to have a license, every person who wants to travel out of the country has to have a passport, every person who wants to collect SS has to have SS card and every person who wants to have Medicare has to have a Medicare card!  OK, if you will support a new national voter's picture ID which each and every voter has to have to vote and where each and every voter has go through the same hassle to get it, then we can agree on a picture ID to vote.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 5:33:21 PM

Archie,

Fraud and rigging are two separate issues.  I have more of a concern with non cable news services burying stories for the benefit of a candidate that they support.  That practice is unfair to voting americans who are entitled to be able to access unbiased true news reporting.  

Podesta said in an email released today that a photo ID and a verbal attestation that you are a citizen should be enough to authenticate your right to vote in a federal election!  That's it.  Now let me get this straight,  you have an immigrant, who flaunts our southern border for instance, and gains entrance illegally.  He then illegally obtains a DL by a state that illegally allows him to apply for it.  Now he takes that illegally obtained photo to the polling office to vote legally in a country that he illegally invaded.  Makes all kind of sense to Podesta.  Who Hillary has surrounded herself with speaks volumes about her vision for America.  Whatever it takes to require verification of citizenship status prior to obtaining a voter photo ID (not a DL) I would be in favor of.  

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	election fraud?
Date:	10/19/2016 5:54:09 PM

I would like to see the same system we put in place in Afghanistan and Iraq used here. Instead of those stupid I  owed stickers we should have to dip a finger in ink when voting.  That way nobody could cast more than one illegal vote at least and dims couldn't cry disenfranchment by discriminating against poor folks of color who the dims consider to stupid to be able to get an ID. Which is crap of course but it is what they profess each election. That would stop bus loads of folks from being able to go from one polling location to another and voting again. But since we now have hard evidence of thus non existent voter fraud that dims have refining for decades.