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ladyofthelake
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Boating etiquette question
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7/14/2012 12:24:26 PM
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I am sure some of you have had this issue and it seems to be getting worse.. We live in a fairly wide slough and recently have had the same few boaters with tubes in tow buzzing close to our doc and floating doc. Both boats are wake board boats which are creating large waves. Our floating dock is getting a a severe beating.. We don't understand why they cannot just go out to more open water. We are more in the middle of the slough and these boaters live towards the end, it would be just a couple of hundred yards for them to be in more open water...
Is there anything we can do? Speaking to the individuals does not seem to work.
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Kizma Anuice
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Boating etiquette question
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7/14/2012 2:03:38 PM
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Swim to there dock under cover of darkness. If the plug in there boat is inserted from the outside all you need is some nylon twine, if the plug is inserted from the inside you will need a hammer, a screwdriver an extra plug and the twine.
If the plug is outside in, tie the twine to the plug and to the dock post. If it is inside out, use the hammer and the screwdriver to drive the plug into the boat. Insert the extra plug from the outside and tie it to the dock post with the twine.
When your neighbors leave, the plug will come out because it is tied to the dock. They will be fine till they stop, then there boat will fill with water and sink. IT WORKS eVeRY TIMe.
If for some reason it does not work steal their gas and fill their tanks with water (see cats post below)
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CAT BOAT
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Boating etiquette question
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7/14/2012 5:19:41 PM
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I thought the problem was "go fast boats" and "cruisers". Sorry, just had to say that. We need boating education, not segregation.
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JTenn
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Boating etiquette question
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7/14/2012 6:14:24 PM
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Agree. The same occurs in our area, Cooper Creek.
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MartiniMan
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Boating etiquette question
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7/14/2012 10:11:06 PM
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How wide is your slough? My advice is to build floating docks to deal with waves. That way you don't have to worry.
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btexpress
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Boating etiquette question
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7/15/2012 12:03:12 PM
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Unfortunately we can't regulate stupidity. But perhaps if these wake board boats had their boats, docks sea walls and furniture destroyed with a little payback they would get the message. Too much open water on this lake for for reckless and selfish conduct we have in the slough. Love to see a wake boat ban. A boat design to create wake and destroy stuff.
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Lifer
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Boating etiquette question
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7/15/2012 2:38:07 PM
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And I would like to see anybody that wants ANYTHING banned, banned from the lake and this forum. Ain't neither gonna happen. Water equals waves, get used to it.
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RCHRR
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Boating etiquette question
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7/16/2012 7:05:50 AM
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There are boating regulations that tell how far a boat operator has to stay away from your pier and as long as they stay away the appropriate distance and do not operate the boat in an unsafe manner then there is nothing that can be done. I had a guy that was visiting his father 30 yrs. ago that tried to keep us from sking into our slough to drop off at the dock come storming up to our dock in his boat and almost ran over me. I had to swim under the dock to avoid being hit, little did he know my dad was standing there with a gun about to shot a snake. Quite the suprise for the ashhat in the boat. Oh did I mention that the big slough where his dock was is about 200 yrds wide. Some people move in and think they own the lake. Now if there is a real problem contact the proper authorities.
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MartiniMan
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Could not disagree more
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7/16/2012 11:17:03 AM
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Any boat run a certain way makes a big wake and you can't ban every boat from the lake. How about the suggestion that we ban docks and boathouses that cannot withstand waves of less than 5 feet. Sound kind of draconian? Well it makes sense to big boat and wakeboard boat owners. So it is no less wrong than suggesting a ban on wakeboard boats. The fact is if you live on a lake you should be prepared to handle waves on your property. I live in a slough and we rarely get large waves but I designed my boathouse, floating dock and jet ski floats to handle waves like I am on big water. I know I can't do anything about the occasional big wave and I frankly don't want to have to worry about it.
I had a neighbor further up our slough who was a maniac when it came to waves. He had piece of scat docks and he would complain about boats going by at 1200 rpm. Guess what happened to him? He died of a massive coronary probably because if he became apoplectic about something like that he was a heart attack waiting to happen. I am not going to ruin my life worrying about waves. I just build to prevent them from doing any damage and then I can be happy....don't worry.......
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Kizma Anuice
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saw in your bailiwick
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7/16/2012 11:45:51 AM
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point house at the bend in Manoy Creek. has floats that appear to be hazard buoys positioned in such a way as to obstruct 20-25% of the narrow opening at the bend. They actually say swimming area on them. If boats are traveling in both directions and one or both are pulling a skier wakeboarder or tuber, then it gets real tight and dangerous. Interestingly enough this person has a waketower on his boat which would leave one to believe that he thinks it is ok to create big wakes, just not in his back yard.
These should be removed as should all other floats in the public lake that are obstructionist.
Where is Walter's teenage pirate thief on a jetski when you need him.
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| Name: |
ot
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cat is right
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7/16/2012 11:51:46 AM
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it's about education. like i've said many times, i own a wakeboard boat. i do not "play" around other peoples property. in return i have an idiot next door neighbor who drags tubes within a few feet of my dock every Saturday, while his kids wave to the people on his dock waiting for a ride. i also have to deal with fisherman who think they own my docks. on occassion we can barely tie up to our dock because of a fishing boat!
AND..... i always wonder why on earth a wakeboard boat is out there pulling a tube. it's an embarrassment to the rest of the wakeboard boat community.
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Lifer
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World is ending.....
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7/16/2012 1:14:11 PM
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..cuz me and Kizma are in total agreement. The place has a sign that says Canaan Lodge at the land end of the pier. At first it was just the two white bumpers. I guess he got brave after a couple of years of getting away with them, then added the red ones. I actually had an incident there a few weeks ago with two PWC's and had to cut between them to avoid the two fools driving the skis.
Worse than that was further up the creek on the left across from Lonesome Branch at a place with a sign that says Tree House. For years they tied a very large piece of drift wood out from their pier. It has since been replaced by a white buoy ball.
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MartiniMan
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Now, now....
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7/16/2012 2:06:11 PM
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I occasionally use my wakeboard boat to pull the younger kids on a tube but always do so in big water. I also have a 26' Chris Craft deck boat and I can assure you it makes much bigger waves than my wakeboard boat when I am pulling tubes. Can't speak for the neighbor that pulls tubes close to docks......not a good idea.
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Wakesurfer
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cat is right
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7/16/2012 3:04:32 PM (updated 7/16/2012 3:07:41 PM)
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Two ways to tell wallys out on the lake:
1) Bumpers hanging out
2) Towing tubers from your tower
Same thing happens to us all the time. We go back into a uninhabited slough to avoid beating up peoples boats and docks when we surf. Then out of no where a tuber will show up and begin towing though our wake or cutting directly in front of us. Sure, we could surf in the big water, but then everyone would yell at us for throwing rollers across the whole lake. We do use the big water between the hours of 7am and 10am on Saturdays and Sundays when no one else is out. During the weekdays, the big water is a dream to surf.
Point is, its a public lake and you cant do much to regulate stupidity.
Or maybe we can just ban all powered boats from the lake...
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| Name: |
ot
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Now, now....
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7/16/2012 3:16:22 PM
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hehehhe.... the second part was tongue-in-cheek!
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| Name: |
PikeSki
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Boating etiquette question
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7/17/2012 11:48:55 AM
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Have you thought about putting your boat(s) on a boat lift? This way it/they will be out of harms way when the rolling waves approach. If you do not have a boat lift, putting them on a trailer and pulling them out of the water just a few feet after use is also a good option. (I did this for many years and it works very well. It's almost easier then a boat lift).
Also, a recommendation for a floating dock is to have one made where the frame is all steel. Wood framed floating docks on a public lake will come apart no matter how well built.
I also live on a fairly wide slough. When we built out dock we decided against a floating dock just for this reason. Our part of the lake and its sloughs are all just about the same width everywhere so there isn't really a wide 'main' channel to ski down. Also keep in mind that wakeboarders, skiers, and barfooters will always look for a slough to ski in since the water is calmer and this is important for these sports to have calmer water.
I don't think anyone in our area creates waves on purpose to cause damage or to upset neighbors. They are simply enjoying the public lake and enjoying their water sports. Again, it's the owners responsibility to take care of their own property.
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