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Wakely
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Swimmer27
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2/2/2009 10:35:37 PM
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I guess you shouldn't have made that post about LML, even though it was true. But it violated the rule about saying bad things about The King and His Court, I guess.
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Swimmer27
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 7:09:29 AM
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How sad that Bruce has fallen into the trap. DB doesn't like it when I talk about him here, so he is most likely the one that complained. Funny though, that the same things can be said in larger, more public forum, and he poses for pics. The same info gets posted here, but with a couple of qualifiying questions added and poof, it's gone.
Oh well, as I always say, 'the truth will set you free, but first it will p!ss you off.'
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DJ
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 7:40:03 AM
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Hey what ever happened to that organization we are not to mention here? Have not heard anything of them of late, their website has no new information on their activities, is that because they have not done anything in a long time except collect dues?
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| Name: |
Swimmer27
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 8:26:47 AM
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That would be correct. They were mentioned here yesterday but it was promptly deleted. Once they were 'outed' as to their real agenda they slithered off into obscurity. But after reading this months LML I now know that we have DB to thank for the clean water in Lake Martin.
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Lady
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 8:53:43 AM
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Just curious - what's your "beef" with DB?
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ot
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 9:10:59 AM
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you mentioned 3 people in the deleted post.....any of the 3 could have complained...although, i think to complain about that particular post was ridiculous! some people need thicker skin!
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| Name: |
Wakely
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 11:41:03 AM
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Last night I made a post asking people how much the various marinas charge for boat storage and ***that*** got deleted in a matter of minutes. All I can figure is that it was going to come out that somebody charges less than the Big Boys, so the post had to go.
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| Name: |
AUCATZ
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You have email
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2/3/2009 12:15:14 PM
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Webmaster
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Just what is "the truth"?
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2/3/2009 1:48:55 PM
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I address this to ot, because she is my friend. I seldom provide commentary on my actions, but the same people try to twist my actions into additional fodder.
Regarding the post that was deleted, the stated assumption about the relation of the author of the article is verifiably false. All that does is start rumors that are untrue. Then someone else have the audacity to continue to say it's true? Why would I not remove it?
Although the LML article being referred to was primarily about a family, the sarcastic comments on the post would lead one to believe the article was all about promoting accomplishments. Even if it was, I don't understand why accomplishments would be disputable as the sarcasm would suggest. Keep in mind, that all is not as it seems just because you read it here.
Also, I find it ironic that the poster doesn't mind mentioning names when he himself doesn't like his real name mentioned. I "Laugh Out Loud" at that.
There are a few people that frequent the forum that have political and personal agendas they are trying to promote. In my opinion, it's nothing more than hatred against the undeserving. Most evident when there is a history of this kind of activity from the same members over and over again. Their objective is to sway public opinion to their beliefs and I'm not going to allow that under known false pretenses.
Speaking of hate, I grew to hate the company I resigned from, but I'm not going on a public Internet campaign against it either. I'm not going to allow that kind of stuff on the forum. This place is not the petri dish for hate. To me it's not much different than operating a billboard business and allowing vandals to spray paint remarks over your client's ads.
Sometimes I wish we would use our real names on the forum. The professional site Linked-In.com and FaceBook.com use real names and that does provide a large degree of validity and legitimacy to everything. Those sites differ from forums in that the people that opt into membership and groups know each other beforehand. I've got some ideas for better things. I would appreciate other people's opinions too (by private message please).
So go ahead people and continue to bash the Nazi Webmaster... I have pretty thick skin!
Bruce - Webmaster
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longtimer
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Just what is "the truth"?
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2/3/2009 1:57:06 PM
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I agree that using real names would help this site immensely, though I can't see any way you could do that without charging a fee. (That way, you could compare the user name to the name on the card.) I'm not so sure that charging a fee isn't a bad idea, either.
As for the obvious question "If you are so in favor of using real names, why don't YOU do it?" the answer is simple: everybody using real names is a good idea; me being the ONLY one to use a real name would just be stupid.
As for the deleted post that started this thread, I read it, and I don't recall any specific names being used. People were mentioned and figuring out who they were wasn't hard, but I don't remember seeing any names anywhere in the thread. But I probably didn't see every reply before the zapping, so maybe names were used in one of them.
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Swimmer27
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Just what is "the truth"?
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2/3/2009 3:31:46 PM
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Any names mentioned were repeated from the LML article. If it is true that it 'was about a family' then why was it put in the article that we have DB to thank the clean water in Lake Matin. That is not about a 'family', THAT is about an agenda.
As for me not wanting my name on here, well if it ever gets gets mentioned in any thing but a defamotory post we will see what my reaction is.
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Swimmer27
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 3:34:36 PM
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That story would require a face to face with adult beverages included. But suffice to say that the lake, the county, and the water quality were all just fine before he showed up, and will continue to be fine long after he is dust.
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Pier Pressure
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Just what is "the truth"?
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2/3/2009 3:45:11 PM
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"There are a few people that frequent the forum that have political and personal agendas they are trying to promote."
Exactly. And some of these agendas are considered acceptible?
America is Bipartisan for a reason. If ones side cans't be openly disputed then "Bipartisanship" is thrown out the window. I do agree that "personal" attacks are not the way to present a case, but if the case cannot be presented openly then the agenda becomes assumed to be supported by the one in control.
It would better suit everyone here if personal attacks were removed, but opinions or statements against an organization should be welcomed because it tends to keep said organization in check...
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DJ
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Just what is "the truth"?
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2/3/2009 6:41:08 PM
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You know that will never happen, if there is a organization that pays to advertise here and you bash them or give your honest opinion of their performance or lack there of it will be removed!
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 7:23:59 PM
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Swimmer, you seem to have a problem with me and/or Lake Watch. Email me (Dick Bronson) at dbronson@charter.net if you want to discuss...provided you are willing to use your name.
And yes Bruce, using names on the Forum is a good idea although it would certainly cut down on the entries.
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PC Al
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 7:52:35 PM
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Put me down for a vote "Yes" to using real names on the forum. I know it would cut down a lot on all the hatred. Bring it on.
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DJ
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Swimmer27
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2/3/2009 8:38:57 PM
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Ya’ll please hash this out on the forum or at least copy me on the emails, I need some good entertainment.
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CAT BOAT
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Hey PC AL...
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2/3/2009 10:07:52 PM
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How about not trashing up my famous saying, It's "Bling it on", not "Bring it on".
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CAT BOAT
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Redleg6....
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2/3/2009 10:21:25 PM
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13 post in three years!! And you say someone has "a problem" with you? What am I missing here?
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Lady
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Redleg6....
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2/3/2009 10:26:52 PM
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13 posts and a +7 rating! Must be pretty popular with what he says..........
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DJ
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 4:04:47 AM
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I think what he has a problem with is what he claims to be doing or claims to have done to clean up lake martin’s waters or something like that........... He is or was chairman of the water quality committee for the obo's. In the last meeting minutes dated May 2008 He was not there and someone else gave this report, "John Glasier gave a brief report about OAW, Outstanding Alabama Water. Lake Martin is a man-made lake. It is not a natural lake. Some portions of the lake may not qualify as OAW." Wonder what they have been doing since then? All those folks that paid dues are most likely wondering as well...............
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BigFoot
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 4:11:56 AM
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He didn't put the clean water in the lake...but he has done more than anyone I am aware of to help keep it clean...over a period of many years! All of Lake Martin should be thankful that we have someone like him still fighting for us....
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DJ
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 4:17:45 AM
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Sorry "LADY" meant to say to you that the ratings are a joke as well as the ignore feature, if we went by the ratings what would your -9 say about you? Or my -38 that I'm sure after you read this would drop to a -39. When you side with someone that most folks don’t like or you point out someone’s mistake or put them in their place your rating will drop like a stone. If Bruce makes everyone log in and the ignore feature is in place you will see fewer folks on ignore.14 folks have me on ignore, but that only works when the are logged in, those folks can read this post when they do not log in.
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DJ
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 4:24:29 AM
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Tell us or have him tell us what he has done other than report what is already being done, go read reports on Lakemartin.org there are no claims of anything he has done to change the quality of our waters, where is the proof, like anything he has gotten put in place as a result of "His direct involvement" and how about the results of the water testing that has allegedly been done??????????
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BigFoot
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 4:50:32 AM
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You obviously don't know enough to even be in this conversation.....
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Swimmer27
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Swimmer27
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2/4/2009 6:48:58 AM
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Why your are observant aren't you. No wonder you were appointed the purveyer of water quality for Lake Martin <sarcasm OFF>
You and your orginazation have had a very public profile snce you thrust yourself upon us. Lets just say that I don't agree with you you, or your agenda. I have no desire to meet you. You will never sway my opinion of you, not toward the positive anyway. If you are truely concerned about water quality, take your dog and pony show to a waterway that NEEDS you there to protect it. The Warrior, Black Warrior, Coosa, Cahttahoochee are just a few that come to mind.
In 83+ years there has been one, and only one, major polluter on the Tallapoosa. And you know as well as I do that the one we had was your benefactor. Funny how that name has NEVER been mentioned in any of the negative crap you have spewed about our lake. Are you teamed up with Catherine to investigate the illegal land fills she speaks of? I didn't think so. You want to bite EVERYBODY"s hand but the one that feeds you.
Typical tree hugging liberal hypocrite.
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Kizma Anuice
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LTL your slip is showing
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2/4/2009 6:56:31 AM
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I know it is the first of the year and you haven't reached your deductible and times are hard. Just go ahead and bite the bullet and buy the meds. You will soon reach the deductible.
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Swimmer27
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KA, how did you get in this?
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2/4/2009 7:10:27 AM
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Didn't you get the memo, the attacks on me stopped long ago. The posse you joined gave up the ghost, why don't you? I am just glad to be here for you launch your tirades and attacks on. I know that folks with such little self esteem only feel better by tearing others down. Also sounds like you are VERY familiar with being 'off the meds'. I will be happy to pay for one of your refills.
Now as far as I am concerned you can kizma aunice, right on the hole. Never mind that, it seems to me like you would actually enjoy that and I am ONLY willing to go as far as paying for YOUR meds to promote your health and well being.
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Swimmer27
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Fighting who?
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2/4/2009 7:22:24 AM
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Fighting about what? There are NO polluters to fight. Well if you consider the problems Dadville had, I guess it is easy to call that a fight. But that would classify as a joke too. To listen to the folks here you would think that Dadveille had a plan to dump the sewage, untreated, into the lake just because of wealth envy. HAHA. They were just easy pickins to get your name in the paper and look like a hero. All of their problems were inadvertant discharges and did NO HARM to the lake. ADEM was aware of them, but did slap Dville on the wrist for not reporting in a timely manner. But folks here wanted their heads on a platter.
As I said then, instead of hiring lawyers to fight in court, why not donate and raise money to fix the problem. A problem every admitted did exist and the only hold-up was MONEY to fix it with. That wasn't good enough. That doesn't make 'heros' out of retired folks with nothing to do but shameless self promotion.
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Kizma Anuice
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? Swimmers smoke pot
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2/4/2009 8:25:46 AM
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I just flamed LTL. Why did you flame me, Swimmer? We all now know that the good swimmers smoke pot. Is LTL bogeying on you?
Multiple personality disorders are getting to him?
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CAT BOAT
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Redleg6....
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2/4/2009 9:26:45 AM
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Nevermind... I'll have to get my hands on the LML article and read for myself. I missed the deleted post, and figured someone would be more specific about what it said or did not say.
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wix
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LTL's best quote.
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2/4/2009 10:01:31 AM
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You have finally defined yourself in your own words. I quote: "I know folks with such little self esteem only feel better by tearing others down." How true.
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ot
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sorry
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2/4/2009 10:50:57 AM
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i'm sorry i started this!!!! i really didn't see anything wrong with the deleted post!
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wix
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sorry
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2/4/2009 11:00:47 AM
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There's a very long history here with LTL/Swimmer/Swimmer27 and several other aliases he uses after webmaster is forced to throw him off the Forum for such personal attacks. Really an unfortunate
situation for the Forum readers.
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Swimmer27
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You couldn't be more wrong
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2/4/2009 11:14:20 AM
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There were several 'members' who were banned. I was just one, and the 'attacks' were at me. I simply responded, as I ALWAYS will, with a scorched earth policy. Then the 'others' didn't like it. To bad, so sad. I was the only one who was not eventually given his ID back however. Many say it because I violated the 'rules' by immediatley creating and using another alias. Guilty as charged. I have never denied it. The 'others' however have tried to deny that they did the same thing. THEY LIED. I know what those aliases are. It is Bruces' world, I just play in it. If he wishes to continue to black the other alias, I will continue to use this one. It is funny however, that attacks on me are fine with him, but mine are not allowed. What joke it has become. If you choose to continue toe believe that I use mutiple aliases, that is your choice. You have every right in the world to be stupid, and apparently you have the means too.
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Swimmer27
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and BTW.....
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2/4/2009 11:24:51 AM
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... You show proof of ANT OTHER alias I am using and I will make a public apology and leave FOREVER.
The multipble alais cr@p is really getting old. Can't you guys come up with something new? I know that you have limited intellectual resources, but use a lifeline for Gods sake. Phone a freind, poll the audience, do SOMETHING. The multiple alias thing has been done to death already.
Offer proof, or STFU.
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Kizma Anuice
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as Willie said
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2/4/2009 1:40:44 PM
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how about you come out and if you are not LTL then I will kick your butt.
if your are LTL I won't kick your butt because your Cat's friend and funny.
or
maybe you should try smoking dope like the famous swimmer and that would mellow you out.
When Willie's lawyer asked him why he smoked so much dope, hw responded:
It keeps me from killing people.
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DJ
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as Willie said
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2/4/2009 3:19:50 PM
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Some say that LTL and I are one in the same, which is so wrong. I've meet him and think he is a great guy, has a place on the lake not too far from mine, and hope to have a get together with him again this summer. He has a lot of knowledge of the lake and the surrounding area and those that do not could learn a lot from him. Aliases don't mean a thing in most cases, his had a true meaning because he has been here a lifetime. I read all the post back then that got those three members banned from the forum, Bruce was wrong to ban LTL though, one member that holds a position in one of the lake organizations, what a joke that is, attacked him alone with another member. It's funny that folks will rate someone as a negative, put them on ignore but not log in so as to still be able to read what they have to say, have seen folks that claimed to have him on iggy but still post replies to his post, you can only do that by logging in and taking him off iggy to make the post, then they would put him back....... I think Bruce should make it so the only way to read the forum is to log in, only allow you to put someone on ignore once, if you want to then take them off only he could do so and would not allow you to put them back on ignore, the ratings thing is a joke and should be redone with some sort accountability system, show folks how you rate them and why, just my two cents worth, see ya!
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Swimmer27
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as Willie said
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2/4/2009 5:10:20 PM
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Thanks for the kind words DJ, I mean me....lol.
Now Kizma Aunice, if you don't know who I am, you really need to get some extra help to keep up with the forum. I understand all you kids that ride that little short bus qualify for free tutoring.
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dmp
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as Willie said
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2/4/2009 6:44:10 PM
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yawn
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Mack
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CAT, Just Stay Away..
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2/4/2009 7:45:51 PM
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from this one. Nothing like a CAtFight to introduce the Spring Forum,,,,
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CAT BOAT
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CAT, Just Stay Away..
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2/6/2009 2:52:52 PM
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ok
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CAT BOAT
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as Willie said
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2/6/2009 2:55:53 PM
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Swimmer, he ain't really that young. LMAO Sorry Kizma..
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