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lakeweekends
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Burn ban
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1/13/2011 11:51:50 AM
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Does anyone know if we are still in a burn ban condition. During the fall months, I saw sign advising we must call fire department in advance to advise them we would be burning. We are located in Red Hill Fire department area.
Thanks
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Osms
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Burn ban
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1/13/2011 2:04:24 PM
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Here is the NOAA burn ban. See link below.
URL: NOAA Burn Advisory
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| Name: |
lamont
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Woops!
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1/13/2011 2:33:02 PM
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Didn't know anything about a burn ban. Guess I was lucky and escaped none the less. I burned Friday and yesterday. Shhhhh.... don't tell anybody.
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muddauber
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Woops!
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1/13/2011 3:41:34 PM
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I don't know their proceedures. Still Waters requires burn notice given to fire dept, and it must be attended. If not, it may be put out by the dept and the owner billed for it. Btw, a burn ban is rather rare, a burn warning is not.
The state Forestry Comm puts out the burn bans.
URL: Alabama Burn Law
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lucky67
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Woops!
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1/13/2011 8:51:36 PM
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we know--the smell permeates the air& ruins outdoor activities for those close to those who burn; seems it is a 'right of winter here' --like being able to buy assault weapons
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roswellric
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Burn ban
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1/13/2011 9:48:13 PM
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You in Dadeville? They pick up anything for free...
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Come on, Ric.....study up on that lake geography.
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There are burn bans for environmental reasons (ozone) in some counties from May- October, but they are the counties mainly around B'ham, Montgomery, Mobile, and maybe a few other larger cities (none here at the lake). When it was very dry last fall, there were were alerts and warnings because of the potential fire hazard. I don't think any current restrictions exist, but it wouldn't hurt to give the fire department a call and ask the question....don't forget to invite Bamaalum over for a hotdog and some roasted marshmallows.
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froghog
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Burn ban
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1/13/2011 11:51:06 PM
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Here in the greater Windermere Area as of now, we (W.V.F.D.) only ask that you give the fire department a call and let us know you're burning. If it is a large pile we might ask to have a firefighter stand by. Each dept. has different guidelines. Your best bet is to call your local fire dept. or fire station and ask.
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lucky67
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Burn ban
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1/14/2011 8:22:38 AM
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bama alum has a little consideration for his neighbors, especially those who might have breathing, health issues--just gather it & haul it off like so many do
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Talullahhound
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Burn ban
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1/14/2011 8:39:59 AM
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But don't just dump it anywhere -- take it to a landfill. Too many people think a vacant area around the lake is there for them to dump their trash.
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PikeSki
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Dadeville Information
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1/14/2011 10:14:41 AM
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I am burning this weekend on the lake shore very near the 49 bridge (near Lakeside Marina). Stop by if you want to cook some dogs!
I just called Dadeville burn permits (1-800-492-3711). She informed me that you do not need a burn permit (on the lake or not) if you are burning less than a 1/4 acre. The only rule is you must stay with the fire during the burn. She did not even want to know were I was burning or my address.
Guess that clears up the question on Burn Permits in Dadeville.
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roswellric
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Burn ban
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1/14/2011 10:33:20 AM
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Well there actually is lakefront in Dadeville. Doesn't A-Town have trash pickup too? I don't have much of a problem with any fire that is clean and done correctly. The trash & garbage ones are inconsiderate if done in subdivisions. Knowing how and when to build a fire is a problem sometimes too. It's amazing to see folks build fires that just generate smoke signals.
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roswellric
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Just curious...
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1/14/2011 10:36:43 AM
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Why would you burn it instead of putting it at the curb and let the city pick it up?
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lakeweekends
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Just curious...
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1/14/2011 10:50:58 AM
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Thanks for all the Great feedback. We just have old limbs /dead trees etc and would like to do some clean up prior to spring. So now we wait for a calm, warm day.
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muddauber
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Dadeville Information
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1/14/2011 10:53:10 AM
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49 bridge is the boundry line between Camp HIll and Still Waters fire departments.
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| Name: |
ot
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Dadeville Information
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1/14/2011 10:54:41 AM
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we burned a HUGE pile of branches and broken limbs (and stuff that getas caught in our slough throughout the year) this past Saturday...dead, fallen trees and limbs are a given for us every January ...we love our heavily wooded lot, and do not desire machinery or sloppy workers anywhere near our property!!
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A fire is a necessity for us every winter too. With 2+ acres of woods, there is no way all the dead limbs, pruning, tree cutting, and natural debris could be hauled away without a dedicated truck. I compost most of the leaf and trimming debris, and build up a very large pile of logs/sticks. We then enjoy a nice controlled fire for a few days in the winter.....it's also fun to cook some hot dogs, roast marshmallows, and spend an evening outdoors on a cool night with family and friends.
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lamont
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Please tell me you are kidding!
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1/14/2011 12:39:56 PM
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It's a miracle when the Waste Company actually empties my trash can without leaving most of the contents on the lawn. Then, when I get home, I have to relocate the trash can from the middle of the driveway, upside down, so that I can proceed to my parking place in the driveway. No love lost with Advanced Disposal.
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Ulysses E. McGill
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???
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1/14/2011 12:56:56 PM (updated 1/14/2011 12:58:22 PM)
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response to a different post? possibly RR's?
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| Name: |
Summer Lover
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| Subject: |
Burn ban
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1/14/2011 1:29:06 PM
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The trick to a good fire is to make it as hot as possible as quickly as possible. Using a few of those old white beaded styrofoam billets and a set of old tires will get that fire to marshmellow temperature straight away - light 'em up...
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Rooster
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| Subject: |
Burn ban
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1/14/2011 2:52:15 PM
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why p o your neighbors and/or fill up the dump. A chipper/shredder will make great mulch out of leaves and most will handle up to 1 3/4 limbs. Buy one or rent one real cheap. Just a thought.
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roswellric
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Different Union
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1/14/2011 6:21:24 PM
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The trash pickup - I should haave said debris - refers to anything but household garbage...but no tires. This is done by a dedicated truck with a loader thingy and we see them once a week. They get everything from limbs & leaves to furniture items and junk. Just no tires or household garbage.
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| Name: |
roswellric
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| Subject: |
Burn ban
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1/14/2011 6:22:29 PM
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Good idea. No more buying pinestraw.
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Talullahhound
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Please tell me you are kidding!
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1/14/2011 9:40:02 PM
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We have some subsidiary of Waste Management. Much the same "service". And if they don't get by on my trash pickup day, they don't reschedule. We just have to wait for next week. It makes more sense to talk to the wall than to call their office. Get more response from the wall.
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MartiniMan
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 8:00:38 AM
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Don't send leaves or other lawn related organic matter to the landfill if you can all avoid it. There is limited landfill space and yard waste takes up a fairly high percentage of the available space. Remember, once the available cells are full they will either have to permit a new landfill or expand the current one which is always controversial.
Maybe try composting if you have a lot of material. For wood debris burning is a good solution but it will burn much cleaner if it is allowed to season before you burn it. I know these are not viable solutions for everyone but for those that can, I would try to avoid sending this type of waste to the landfill. And by the way, I work in the environmental business and we make money closing and permitting new landfills so this advice goes against my best interests. :-)
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MrHodja
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 9:13:48 AM
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What about pine straw? We are cursed with pine trees aplenty at our lake property, and while we are culling them over time, we still are "blessed" with literally trailerloads of the their "droppings". Doesn't burn well because it packs down and limits oxygen. Doesn't compost well - in fact I would need a compost pile the size of a dump truck. In the past I've tried to burn it but just managed turn the neighborhood white with that noxious smoke, or loaded it onto my open trailer and found some obscure spot in the woods to "redeposit to nature" (all pine straw and leaves, no man-produced items aka trash). Any ideas?
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Ulysses E. McGill
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 9:27:09 AM
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I recycle mine around trees, in beds, and in the woods......also, it burns fairly clean on a hot wood fire if you place it on the fire in smaller doses. Maybe you can even find others that want it, as some people actually pay for the stuff.
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Ulysses E. McGill
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 9:35:01 AM
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I agree. We tend to have a mentality of "send it off" in this country without thinking about where it goes and the consequences of doing such. It's much better to recycle when possible and take care of all natural debris in a natural manner through composting, natural relocation, and burning when needed.
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muddauber
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 9:35:49 AM
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I am in that category. Natural landscape, no grass.
He might consider baling it and selling bales. Depending on how much, might make a nice weekend away somewhere.
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MrHodja
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 10:47:39 AM
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Unfortunately there are just enough gum trees so that the straw is not "flower bed quality". I am thinking that before the water comes up I might put it in the lake bed, apply a liberal dose of something petroleum based to get it started, and just point an electric leaf blower at it on low speed to simulate a nice breeze. At least when we rake and move it the trip is all downhill....:>)
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| Name: |
Ulysses E. McGill
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 11:05:37 AM
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You can still use the pine straw with leaf's mixed in around the flower beds and in other bedded areas and put a final thin layer of mulch (either hardwood or cleaner raked pine straw) over the top. You wont see the leafs underneath and they will rot and hold down moisture. Another trick is to use a mulch blade on your mower in grass areas. This grinds up the leafs and usually leaves partially intact pine straw. Anything that isn't ground up can easily be blown into a pile with a leaf blower and placed in bedding areas.
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| Name: |
MrHodja
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 1:15:03 PM
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But you assume I have flower beds in which the "stuff" would be placed....au contraire, my friend....we are on the literal side of "quaint and rustic"....:>)
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| Name: |
Ulysses E. McGill
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| Subject: |
Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 1:54:34 PM (updated 1/15/2011 1:58:07 PM)
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lol....I guess that calls for a quaint and rustic fire and/or big @ss pile.
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| Name: |
John C
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I will remove your pine straw
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1/15/2011 3:12:52 PM
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Mr Hodja, or anyone else, if you have so much pine straw that you are burning it, please give me a call. I will load up my kids and the trailer and head your way. We have an allergy against buying pine straw so I go wherever (schools, etc) to rake it. Have rake, will travel.
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| Name: |
BigFoot
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 3:45:22 PM
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My solution? Keep it "quaint and rustic" by leaving it right where mother nature deposited it...a view probably not shared by many.
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| Name: |
MrHodja
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 4:30:39 PM
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Because of my travel schedule with my day job sometimes I have no choice!
Will probably exercise UMc's BAP option and push it off the trailer into the woods where it is out of sight and Mother Nature can do her thing.
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Talullahhound
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Try not to send it to the landfill
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1/15/2011 5:32:12 PM
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My only point is not to dump your trash on vacant lots around the lake. Old stumps and limbs and such. We had a problem with a landscaper that was dumping over on a vacant area on 20.
I stopped using pine straw as my mulch. I find it breaks down to quickly and it's like throwing money away. I started using wood mulch and I only have to add to it every Spring. My landscaper told me to do this, and it works. But, If you have a lot of pine straw, why not use it as mulch?
I think the solution to yard waste is to burn it. On a calm day when your neighbors are not there.
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| Name: |
Ulysses E. McGill
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agreed
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1/15/2011 6:04:50 PM (updated 1/15/2011 6:10:36 PM)
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I get a dump truck of hardwood mulch every 2-3 years and also use all the natural stuff (I like a thick layer). The sticks and logs get burned. Unauthorized dumping is bad.
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If anyone wants to dump pinestraw somewhere, I would be happy to have you drop it off at my house. We are in the process of trying to get beds established and I would love to have pinestraw (it can have some leaves and gum balls in it!) I just don't want lots of big sticks. Let me know if this sounds good to you....our place is close to Real Island.
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