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Life in the 1500's
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6/20/2006 10:36:56 PM
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I think this is interesting....and, the author to this e-mail is correct....whoever said History was boring????????
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>LIFE IN THE 1500'S
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>The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water
>temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to
be.
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>Here are some facts about the1500s:
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>These are interesting...
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>Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in
>May, and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting
>to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor
>Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
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>Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the
>house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other
>sonsand men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the
>babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone
>in it. Hence the saying, Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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>Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood
underneath.
>It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and
>other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it
>became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the
>roof Hence the saying . It's raining cats and dogs.
>There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house .. This
>posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings
>could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a
>sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy
>beds came into existence.
>The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt
>Hence the saying, Dirt Poor. The wealthy had slate floors that would
>get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw)
>onfloor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added
>more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start
>slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence
>the saying a thresh hold. & nbsp; Getting quite an education, aren't
>you?)
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>In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that
>always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things
>to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They
>would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold
>overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in
>it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme:
>Peas porridge hot,
>Peas porridge cold,
>Peas porridge in the pot nine days old..
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>Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.
>When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It
>was a sign of wealth that a man could, bring home the bacon. They would
>cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew
the fat.
>Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content
>caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning
>death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400
>years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
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>Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of
>the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the
>upper crust.
>Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would
>sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking
>along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
>They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the
>family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they
>would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.
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>England is old and small and the local folks started running out of
>places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the
>bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these
>coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the
>inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they
>would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the
>coffin an d up t hrough the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would
>have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to
>listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was
>considered a ...dead ringer..
>And that's the truth...Now, whoever said History was boring ! ! !
Peggy Fullenkamp Oomens, RD, CNSD
Clinical Nutritionist, PICU
Phoenix Children's Hospital
1919 E. Thomas Road
Phoenix, AZ 85016
phone: 602-546-1796
pager: 602-202-2003
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LifeTime Laker
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Great post Jaw
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6/21/2006 1:06:04 AM
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Enjoyed it ......
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MythBuster
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Pure hokum
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6/21/2006 1:42:00 AM
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Entertaining, but not the least bit factual. This is an email hoax that has been around for a while; for some reason, it continues to catch the gullible; some simple research could put an end to the silliness, but instead those gullible victims forward the email, and help perpetuate a bunch of half-truths and out-and-out lies.
From www.snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.htm):
In a nutshell, this whole thing is a hoax, someone's idea of an amusing leg-pull. It began its Internet life in April 1999.
As for a specific debunking:
"Most people got married in June. Why? They took their yearly bath in May, so they were till smelling pretty good by June, although they were starting to smell, so the brides would carry a bouquet of flowers to hide their b.o. "
***Although the modern practice of full-immersion bathing was a long way off in the 1500s (among other reasons because filling a vessel large enough to hold a person with heated water was rather impractical given the effort required to collect fresh water and fuel for heating it), people did still "bathe" in the sense of attempting to clean themselves as best they could with the resources at hand.
Although today's brides carry flowers simply because it is now the custom to do so, at one time bridal bouquets were symbols of sexuality and fertility. Covering up anyone's bad smell played no part in why this custom came into being. ***
"Like I said, they took their yearly bath in May, but it was just a big tub that they would fill with hot water. The man of the house would get the privilege of the nice clean water. Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was pretty thick. Thus, the saying, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water," it was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. "
***Although the admonition against throwing the baby out with the bathwater dates back to the 16th century, its roots are Germanic, not English. Its first written occurrence was in Thomas Murner's 1512 versified satirical book Narrenbeschwörung, and its meaning is purely metaphorical. (In simpler terms, no babies, no bathwater, just a memorable mental image meant to drive home a bit of advice against overreaction.)***
"I'll describe their houses a little. You've heard of thatch roofs, well that's all they were. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. They were the only place for the little animals to get warm. So all the pets; dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs, all lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery so sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Thus the saying, "it's raining cats and dogs," "
***Mice, rats, and bugs definitely take up residence in thatch roofs — to them it's a highrise hay mow. Cats and dogs, however, don't go up there.
The saying it's raining cats and dogs was first noted in the 17th century, not the 16th. A number of theories as to its origin exist:
By evoking the image of cats and dogs fighting in a riotous, all-out manner, it expresses the fury of a sudden downpour.
Primitive drainage systems in use in the 17th century could be overwhelmed by heavy rainstorms, leading to gutters overflowing with debris that included dead animals.
In Northen European mythology, it is believed cats influence the weather and dogs represent wind.
The saying might have derived from the obsolete French word catadoupe, meaning waterfall or cataract.
It might have come from a similar-sounding Greek phrase meaning "an unlikely occurrence." ***
"Since there was nothing to stop things from falling into the house they would just try to clean up a lot. But this posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings from animals could really mess up your nice clean bed, so they found if they would make beds with big posts and hang a sheet over the top it would prevent that problem. That's where those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies came from."
****Canopied four-poster beds were the province of the well-to-do, not the ordinary folk. Possibly their origin had to do with a desire to display wealth conspicuously by showing off rich tapestries and fabrics. Beautifully thick wall hangings were likewise a way of dressing up a room while at the same time putting on the dog a bit. (The hangings also served to keep the warmth of a room in.)
Such fripperies were not the norm in lesser households where available funds would more likely be directed to keeping people fed and clothed than to decorative flourishes. ****
"When you came into the house you would notice most times that the floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, that's where the saying "dirt poor" came from."
****Dirt poor is an American expression, not a British one. Claims that the saying grew out of British class distinctions as measured by style of flooring are just plain silly.
Floors were never bare dirt anyway. Fresh reeds were laid on them every day and thrown out every night, with another fresh set brought in for sleeping on. In the summer months, aromatic herbs might be added to this vegetative underfooting. ***
"The wealthy would have slate floors. That was fine but in the winter they would get slippery when they got wet. So they started to spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they would just keep adding it and adding it until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. So they put a piece of wood at the entry way, a "thresh hold". "
***As stated above, the reeds were changed daily. Besides, who ever heard of calling reeds, rushes, or sheaves of grass "threshes"? One threshes plants to separate stalk from seed, but no part of the plant is called the "thresh."
The "thresh" part of threshold apparently comes from a prehistoric source that denoted "making noise" and is related to the Old Church Slavonik tresku, meaning "crash." By the time it reached Germanic (thresk-), it was probably being used for "stamp the feet noisily" (something that's a good idea to do in a doorway if you're wearing muddy boots). ***
"In the kitchen they would cook over the fire, they had a fireplace in the kitchen/parlor, that was seldom used and sometimes in the master bedroom. They had a big kettle that always hung over the fire and every day they would light the fire and start adding things to the pot.
Mostly they ate vegetables, they didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner then leave the leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew would have food in it that had been in there for a month! Thus the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." "
***Even some cooking practices of today call for tossing whatever's on hand into the stewpot, with new ingredients added each day to whatever is left over. French bouillabaisse, for instance, is sometimes made this way, as are any number of "peasants' stews." ***
"Sometimes they could get a hold on some pork. They really felt special when that happened and when company came over they even had a rack in the parlor where they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. That was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." "
****Surprisingly, one authority states the saying predates the 16th century, asserting it comes from the 12th and refers to a time when a slab of bacon was awarded to the happiest married couple. A man who theref
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MythBuster
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Liked that one? Read this one!
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6/21/2006 1:45:39 AM
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------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Subject: Warning! Warning! Watch OUT!
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WARNING, CAUTION, DANGER, AND BEWARE!
Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet!
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WASHINGTON, D.C.--The Institute for the Investigation of Irregular Internet Phenomena announced today that many Internet users are becoming infected by a new virus that causes them to believe without question every groundless story, legend, and dire warning that shows up in their inbox or on their browser. The Gullibility Virus, as it is called, apparently makes people believe and forward copies of silly hoaxes relating to cookie recipes, email viruses, taxes on modems, and get-rich-quick schemes.
"These are not just readers of tabloids or people who buy lottery tickets based on fortune cookie numbers," a spokesman said. "Most are otherwise normal people, who would laugh at the same stories if told to them by a stranger on a street corner." However, once these same people become infected with the Gullibility Virus, they believe anything they read on the Internet.
"My immunity to tall tales and bizarre claims is all gone," reported one weeping victim. "I believe every warning message and sick child story my friends forward to me, even though most of the messages are anonymous."
Another victim, now in remission, added, "When I first heard about Good Times, I just accepted it without question. After all, there were dozens of other recipients on the mail header, so I thought the virus must be true." It was a long time, the victim said, before she could stand up at a Hoaxees Anonymous meeting and state, "My name is Jane, and I've been hoaxed." Now, however, she is spreading the word. "Challenge and check whatever you read," she says.
Internet users are urged to examine themselves for symptoms of the virus, which include the following:
The willingness to believe improbable stories without thinking. The urge to forward multiple copies of such stories to others. A lack of desire to take three minutes to check to see if a story is true.
T. C. is an example of someone recently infected. He told one reporter, "I read on the Net that the major ingredient in almost all shampoos makes your hair fall out, so I've stopped using shampoo." When told about the Gullibility Virus, T. C. said he would stop reading email, so that he would not become infected.
Anyone with symptoms like these is urged to seek help immediately. Experts recommend that at the first feelings of gullibility, Internet users rush to their favorite search engine and look up the item tempting them to thoughtless credence. Most hoaxes, legends, and tall tales have been widely discussed and exposed by the Internet community.
Courses in critical thinking are also widely available, and there is online help from many sources, including
Department of Energy Computer Incident Advisory Capability at
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
Symantec Anti Virus Research Center at
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html
McAfee Associates Virus Hoax List at
http://www.mcafee.com/support/hoax.html
Dr. Solomons Hoax Page at
http://www.drsolomons.com/vircen/hoax.html
The Urban Legends Web Site at
http://www.urbanlegends.com
Urban Legends Reference Pages at
http://www.snopes.com
Datafellows Hoax Warnings at
http://www.Europe.Datafellows.com/news/hoax.htm
Those people who are still symptom free can help inoculate themselves against the Gullibility Virus by reading some good material on evaluating sources, such as
Evaluating Internet Research Sources at
http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/evalu8it.htm
Evaluation of Information Sources at
http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~agsmith/evaln/evaln.htm
Bibliography on Evaluating Internet Resources at
http://refserver.lib.vt.edu/libinst/critTHINK.HTM
Lastly, as a public service, Internet users can help stamp out the Gullibility Virus by sending copies of this message to anyone who forwards them a hoax.
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This message is so important, we're sending it anonymously! Forward it to all your friends right away! Don't think about it! This is not a chain letter! This story is true! Don't check it out! This story is so timely, there is no date on it! This story is so important, we're using lots of exclamation points! Lots!! For every message you forward to some unsuspecting person, the Home for the Hopelessly Gullible will donate ten cents to itself. (If you wonder how the Home will know you are forwarding these messages all over creation, you're obviously thinking too much.)
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ACT NOW! DON'T DELAY! LIMITED TIME ONLY! NOT SOLD IN ANY STORE!
(from http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blvirus.htm)
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Island Camper
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I like that one
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6/21/2006 8:51:12 AM
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I can think of several people I need to send that to.
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jawjagal
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6/21/2006 9:33:53 AM
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". . . and they realized they had still been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. "
***Premature burial signalling devices only came into fashion in the 19th century; they weren't around in the 15th. Some of these 19th century coffins blew whistles and raised flags if their inhabitants awoke from their dirt naps. ***
I knew about this info in the 19th century, as you said, but didn't know how far back this custom went. As a matter of fact, in England, there used to be a formal society, - can't think of the name of the society now - that would oversee someone strolled the graveyards - I think it was for about 14 days - to see if they heard the bell tied to the "dead's" finger through a hole in the ground and coffin.
Thanks for setting the record straight.
And in your post above - the 1500's would be the 16th century...not 15th.
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Liked that one? Read this one!
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6/21/2006 9:34:44 AM
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Thanks for that public service. I shall use that one in my office.
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WSMS
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YES!!!
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6/22/2006 12:11:55 AM
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THANK YOU! I finally have a response for all of those idiots who keep sending me chain emails!
I hope I haven't deleted all of the latest ones; I want to send this to some people tonight!
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jawjagal
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WSMS
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6/22/2006 8:47:27 AM
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Of course, you MUST tell them off instead of deleting on your end.
Wouldn't it be great if we all could have a way with words like these fellows instead of being the "idiots" that we are?
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
- Winston Churchill
"A modest little person, with much to be modest about."
- Winston Churchill
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."
- Clarence Darrow
"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary."
- William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway)
"Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?"
- Ernest Hemingway (about William Faulkner)
"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it."
- Moses Hadas
"He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."
- Abraham Lincoln
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it."
- Groucho Marx
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it."
- Mark Twain
"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends."
- Oscar Wilde
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play, bring a friend... if you have one."
- George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill
"Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one."
- Winston Churchill, in reply
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WSMS
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WSMS
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6/23/2006 1:08:08 AM
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I could delete; that's what I do with all of the emails regarding stashes of secret Nigerian money, low-priced pharmaceuticals, and making millions while you sleep. But those are sent by false email addresses to names on mailing lists that someone has bought; responding to them wouldn't do any good anyway.
But those who perpetuate urban myths and other lies do need some lessons, and since they'd rather hit "Forward" than do any actual research, then it's up to me to be their teacher. They might think it's OK to spread lies; I'd be appalled even if they left me out of it, but since they don't, they've left themselves open to return emails.
I would think a teacher would be interested in people knowing facts, but I come from a time and/or place where teaching was a noble profession. Back then people became teachers because they valued education and all it had to offer, and they cared about the differences between right and wrong. Obviously, you have a different viewpoint; how sad for so many shortchanged students that you decided to become a teacher, too.
By the way, thanks for singling me out when at least two other posters also responded favorably to the "gullibility virus" post; it did not go unnoticed. Did you play favorites in class, too? Just one more example of shortchanging your students….
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jawjagal
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You are different,WSMS
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6/23/2006 10:11:14 AM
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I thought you could take it.
But I know what you mean about passing on unreliable info. This one is my favorite one I get...and yes, I stop the INSANITY on this one, too, when I get it, which has been about 3 times in 1 year:
There is an e-mail going around from the so-called founder of Appleby's. DON'T KNOW THIS GUYS NAME ON THE E-MAIL. He is giving away a free Appleby's if you send his e-mail forward to 4 folks.
Well, I KNEW the founder of Appleby's. His name is Tom Dupree and he went to Georgia Tech and was an SAE with my college boyfriend, while I went to college with his first wife (she died in a car accident), who was a KD with me. We double dated. They were both from Macon.
So, WSMS, whenever I get this bogus e-mail, I do what you do, too...set the record straight.
Have a GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!! jaw
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WSMS
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Jo
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6/30/2006 1:50:20 AM
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Of course, you MUST tell them off instead of deleting on your end.
Wouldn't it be great if we all could have a way with words like these fellows instead of being the "idiots" that we are?
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