Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/21/2022 3:30:42 PM

While it was definitely not best of the Country DJT should be ok with the loss in the 2020 election.  We were headed for some tough times no matter who was elected.  Had he been elected Trump would have continued to face the brutal onslaught from Dems and media, not a lot different than he is facing now but every new move for covid, foreign affairs, economy would have been questioned and sought for impeachment.  

Then you look at the disaster created and perpetrated by the Dementia Doufuss and group that was elected and the previous Administration comparison is light years better, even with the virus debacle.  There is a definite reason that Biden has only about 33% still in his camp on the polls.  Even folks who hated Trump and mean tweets are now realizing sometimes it is better to be tough and right about the economy, violence, borders, etc etc etc.

I prefer someone like DeSantis for 2024, but if DJT is the nominee I will gladly support and I think he would have a better four years than had he been elected in 2020.  

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/21/2022 3:52:21 PM

if the jan 6 debacle committtee has its way DT will not be on the 2024 ballot

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/21/2022 10:53:23 PM

Because he is an existential threat to their quest for total power.  They know they don't have anyone to run who can beat him.

Where in today's Democrat Party do you find an equivalent to Republicans Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, or Kristi Noem?  You don't and they know it.

I agree with LNG.  I don't want Trump to be the nominee but if he is I will support and vote for him because, in spite of his warts, he is head and shoulders above anything the Dems have to offer.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 10:41:44 AM

The real irony of this is that had Trump won in 2020, despite having Congress under Dem control and him being constatnly attacked and probably impeached a 3rd and 4th time, things would not be as dire as they are today.  We would still be energy independent and although gas prices would have certainly risen due to increased demand as the plandemic ended, none of the other actions taken by Dementia Joe to curtail domestic exploration, production, refining and transportation would have occurred.  And the Keystone Pipeline would be close to completion which would help the supply immensely given it is a cheaper, faster and safer alterntative than using Warren Buffet's railroads.

We would not have the level of inflation today as I do not think he would have been foolish enough to pump trillions of new dollars into a recovering economy. And we wouldn't be facing a recession because lower inflation numbers would have allowed the fed to keep the discount rate down.  And without the current Fed action the stock market would not have tanked to the extent it has in response to inflation, increased interest rates and a likely recession.  Nor would the housing market be looking at as big a correction.

The border would be under control and more fencing would be completed.  THe border patrol would actually be encouraged to do their jobs instead of being punished and the illegal caravans would not exist because they would know the border is actually closed to illegals.

We would have exited Afghanistan in a logical, systematic manner and Putin would have been relucatant to invade Ukraine simply because he would have no idea what Trump might do in response.......unlike Dementia Joe which he knew for 100% certainty that his response would be the wrong approach.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 2:11:29 PM

All those things depend on which Trump we had - the sane, rartional Trump who saw things that needed fixing and did it - or the stinky last two years Trump of petty bitterness and "they don't like me" attitude.  I think Trump's attitude in the last year and a half of his Presidency was a significant departure from his first couple of years.  It's like his ego exploded and he began to think he was King instead of President.  And look at the losers he surrounded himself with - Steve Bannon and Rudy and Eastman and a number of others whose advice was very questionable.  Even his campaign was hosed up - instead of running on his real accomplishment and strong economy, he made petty attacks and ran his mouth far too much about everything else.  He literally cost himself the election.  

I sincerely hope he doens't run again.  It's going to put me in a very difficult position if they made him the nominee.  I really don't think Biden is going to run again, no matter what he says.  I think at this point, people really want a common sense centrist who can make a clear path.  Trump has now got too much baggage and Biden has made too much of a mess of everything he has touched.  Trumps association with white supremist groups, and these questionable associates and firing cabinet officials on whim  are not going to fly.  And Republicans that are currently in office who are hanging on to Trump like he's going to save them are delusional.  it wasn't Trump people liked, it was his policies.  Frankly, I think Biden has screwed his chances and the chances of another Democrat who might run.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 2:34:07 PM

I'm with you about not wanting him to run in 2024.  I want him to continue to hold RINO's to account as a sort of kingmaker.  We need someone with Trump's instincts on policy and what works without all the personal foibles.  If he thinks he can run and win on being screwed in 2020 is delusioinal.  He might win the nomination but not the general election. As for his last two years, I am going to give him a bit of a pass.  He spent his entire first term being lied about with regard to Russia, was impeached twice by the House and attacked relentlessly by a hostile media.  Despite all that, no doubt his personality made him respond in ways that were, to put it charitably, not helpful.

I am really hoping DeSantis runs.  He has the right instincts but knows how to deal with the press.  Plus I want to see his comms director Christina Pushaw as Press Secretary.  She is deadly in dealing with a biased media and has a great sense of humor.

All the other wannabees like Pence, Christie, Pompeo, etc. leave me blah.  They are all more interested in making friends with the media and getting along with Democrats.  We don't need to get along with people that hate us and believe so much that just isn't true.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 2:39:17 PM

I agree we would be better off with DJT. That is why I began with "While it was definitely not best [for] the Country" 

My point is all that good would not look as good because the country would not realize how BAD it would be with Biden.

Now the comparison can be drawn and DJT looks much better.  But not as good as DeSantis

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 2:44:07 PM

Even I didn't anticipate that Biden would set such a low bar for "looking better" but he outdid even my worst fears.  I actually believed he pivoted left to appease the crazy leftists and would govern more from the center.  Bill Clinton was the master of this because he was more ambitious than ideological.  He wanted a second term and he knew he would have do certain things to get it.  Hence, welfare reform, not going to war with business, etc.  But maybe Biden either doesn't care about a second term or he is so mentally diminshed that he is simply doing and saying what he's told to do and say.  Or maybe he has always lied about what he believed and is now free to be himself.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Best Loss Ever
Date:	6/22/2022 4:23:37 PM

I agree that those you mentioned other than DiSantas, are Washington retreads and weak candidates. What I want to know is where are all the smart, middle aged Republicans who have some leadership experience.  Surely Desantis can't be the only one.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	MM
Date:	6/22/2022 4:29:18 PM

The problem is that Biden doesn't believe much of anything, other than he is a "nice guy".  He's never been anything other than a cheerleader for someone else's legislation and Obama's presidency.  No one is going to tell me that in honesty, Obama ever consulted with him about anything, other than to give him the talking points.  No one believes he is running the country. otherwise we wouldn't see these continual "walk backs" of his comments from the WH.  If he were PResident in anything but name only, people would be too scared to walk back his words.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	As has been the case often recently
Date:	6/22/2022 9:42:58 PM

I agree with pretty much everything you posted. I would clarify that DJ may believe  people think he's a nice guy and he may think that himself but when I look at his repeated lies about the driver that was involved with the accident with his family as having "drunk his lunch", not only do I not believe he is a a nice guy, I think he is a reprehensible human being for lying repeatedly about this. His deceased wife was responsible for that accident and the truck driver was not at fault and his family has tried for years begging Biden to cease with this lie. What kind of a person would do this?  A degenerate of a person.  That is the epitome of Joe Biden and there is a special place in hell reserved for him.