Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 5:40:04 PM (updated 9/12/2017 5:40:54 PM)

but as I sit here in glorious light after 28 hours of darkness, I declare that considering what this world and nation have experienced in recent weeks, if many of the members of this forum do not sit down and give some serious thought and seek out the actual truth and facts, unblemished by political bias and rightwing talking points, about the REALITY of climate change then you are as blinded by political bias and as stupid as you demonstrate by many of your insane posts!  Ask South Asia, ask St Martin, ask the Virgin Islands, ask the Florida Keys, ask Jacksonville, ask Tybee Island, ask Houston, ask Beaumont!!

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 6:14:36 PM

Welcome back from the dark, well almost back.  Are you telling me that I have the power to create an Irma?  Wow, that is amazing.  So in the years since 1960 what has happened to cause Irma to be so big?  What escaped into the atmosphere to cause the circular motion, the size, the wind force?  My small mind thinks we have wind, and sun, and moon, and water, and atmosphere, and given a certain correlation of those items, the winds get together and can be brutal.

So this was the worst to hit lower florida and below since 1960.  Now get that, the worst SINCE 1960.  My small mind tells me then that there was a more brutal accumulation of wind, water, sun and atmosphere then.  Climates change, sometimes it gets less worse. 

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 6:43:21 PM

  Last week we had the largest solar flare in years but my suv caused the hurricanes. Got it.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 7:06:07 PM

Come back and start barking when we have had three of five or six years with storms like this year.  Seems to me the past few years have seen lower than average in the number and severity of tropical cyclones.  My opinion, unlike your opinion, is that the lack of severity over those years allowed an abnormal amount of heat to build up in the oceans and that is most likely the cause of this year's storms.

Without any name calling, I can say that you may claim global warming to be the cause of the storms, but you can not scientifically prove that it is.  One year does not make a trend.

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 7:58:59 PM

Arch, it was just a hurricane like many other hurricanes throughout history.  Nothing more, nothing less.  To think that man has caused this latest storm is absolute insanity, regardless of the number of ALGORE books and dissertations you have read.  

Name:	HARRY -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/12/2017 8:38:14 PM

The severity is measured by $$$$$ of damage. So who really knows how severe a hurricane is today vs one from the  1800's when nothing was there?

Name:	Surfaceunits -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 1:32:43 AM

Where I reside just set a record for the coolest day for this date in history. Have to go back to the 1880's for the last record for this date. So yeah, when the weather fits the socialists' agenda it's climate.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 9:40:52 AM

Seems to me, we have always had hurricanes.  I remember growing up on the East Coast and there were hurricanes. 

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 10:44:36 AM

Archie,

You know me, no vile insults, but I try to supply rational thoughts to issues you bring to the table.  As an extremely amateur weather watcher, over the past 10 years or so with the draught of hurricane development in the Atlantic Basin, many on the left stated that the dry Saharan Sand layer at upper atmospheric levels that got sucked into developing low pressure areas and prevented intensification was due to global warming.  Same could be said with westerly shear that tore apart developing lows.  Same could be said with shallow warm water temps in the Verdes and Carribean.  If wind shear was low, no dry Saharan air making it into the low pressure area, deeper warm water levels and no Eastern seaboard lows that would drive the Hurricane out into the Atlantic, then chances were good that we could see a hurricane make it here.  In the GOM, water temps have been elevated, as usually occurs in the summer.  Just so happens that in these two storms, conditions for hurricane development were ripe.  Deep warm water, no wind shear, no Saharan sand in the upper levels of the atmosphere, and a fortunate positioning of the Bermuda High, which has existed for as long as we have been able to measure it.  So what is it Archie?  Was the paucity of hurricane development over the past 10 years or so the result of global warming as many suggested, or is the development of a cycle of hurricanes that we have seen just this year a result of global warming?  I just wish people like you and those in the press and on the left would have the same amount of curiosity in matters that you know nothing about as I did, when I wanted to learn about severe weather phenomena on my own.  Lazy just to repeat what others ramble on about.   

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 10:57:49 AM

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/hurricane-irma-truth-behind-wild-weather/news-story/01f3b165b8c916c8fcd8f62983594e0c

But how much of this is down to better measurement? We will never know exactly how ferocious the winds of the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 were, or the great Barbados hurricane of 1780. An analysis published last month by the American government’s Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory stated: “It is premature to conclude that human activities, and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming, have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity.”

No names - just pity that you would attempt to use a natural disaster that has been going on since the start of time for political gain.  

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 11:22:08 AM

Oh, but he is Rahm disciple!

Name:	Moldyoldy -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 12:11:11 PM

Come on, archy, admit it. It bothers you.  Come onnnn, it bothers you...just a little bit, now doesn't it?

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT
Date:	9/13/2017 12:23:49 PM

Do you mean to tell me that you live in the ATL-hood and your power was off for 28 hours.  I live way out in the woods, 10 miles from the nearest red light, and my power was only off for one hour and 10 minutes.  You need to find a better place to live and enjoy your progressive communism.  Sorry you're all bummed out because you don't get instant service when trouble strikes, but don't blame it on "global warming".  BTW, did your ilk change their buzz word from global warming to climate change in an effort to gain some credibility if God chooses to change weather?  GET BACK UNDER YOUR BED....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT
Date:	9/13/2017 1:46:42 PM

http://www.trunews.com/article/not-settled-astrophysicist-says-mini-ice-age-staying

This reduction in solar activity is called a “cooling period,” and has been known to produce “mini ice ages” over the centuries—some short, and some long, such as the Little Ice Age that spanned from 1300 to 1850.

Earlier this year, a Yale University research team led by Dr. Wei Liu concluded that the decrease in solar activity was causing “instability” in the Atlantic Ocean’s currents, which in turn would lead to a major cooling of the Northern Hemisphere. He also shot down the climate alarmists claims, stating carbon dioxide has nothing to do with this change—solar activity is the driving factor.

might want to start driving those SUV's more so we can hold off the coming ice age from lack of solar activity.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT
Date:	9/13/2017 2:51:21 PM (updated 9/13/2017 2:55:01 PM)

Best part is his previous posts in regards to global warming in relation to Harvey.

"That post does NOT say anything about Harvey being a product Of Global warming"  - but IRMA must be because it caused him a blackout and caused him not to be able to post or watch PMSNBC.

"I have no idea whether Global warming bears any of the blame for "weather" but it does have a lot to do with "climate"! "   - ARCH-IDIOT

So short term CO2 global warming may or may not be to blame for the weather, but longer term climate is 100% Archifacts     

Name:	Surfaceunits -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT
Date:	9/13/2017 5:31:46 PM

I told you those knuckle-dragging neo-environmentalists flocking to the eclipse in their poluting contraptions made mother nature mad. There will be 10 more hurricanes as she vents her anger at the climate change fanatics who poluted her environment.

Name:	oneshot -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/13/2017 8:10:57 PM

Sure it bothers you or you would be posting more often.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	To make you feel better
Date:	9/13/2017 8:45:28 PM

A numerologist has predicted that the world will come to an end, sometime after the solar eclipse.  It has something to do with 3's.  You know, like when famous people die and it is always in 3's?  So when the world comes to an end, this guy will be able to claim credit for having foreseen it.  

I am far more concerned about pollution in the ocean than I am about climate change.  Weather.  it happens. 

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	To make you feel better
Date:	9/13/2017 9:39:34 PM

Waaay back when I was in an Air War College seminar one of my "seminarees" was an Air Force meteorologist.  His take on global warming was that as the temp rises more water evaporates, thus causing more clouds, which in turn produce rain and cooling the atmosphere. Thus, the earth rids itself of excess heat.  Pretty basic stuff.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Going out on a limb
Date:	9/14/2017 7:06:56 AM

  I am going to agree with them, the world will most definitely end some time after the eclipse. Of course liberals think the world ended back in November.

  As for the number 3, Nikola Tesla said whoever truly understands the significance of the numbers 3, 6 and 9 holds the keys to understanding the universe. I don't have a clue what he meant but I believe it since he said it.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/20/2017 2:19:32 PM (updated 9/20/2017 2:26:33 PM)

Ask New England, Gulf coast, Carolina's, Tampa, the Keys, New Jersey, Georgia and Indianola.  SUVS killing and causing destruction in 1800's. Just ask a liberal because it is so much worse now then it was 200 years ago Just think how confused the world is Iceland is green and Greenland is ice *PROOF OF GLOBAL WEATHER CHAOS*  --- OMG we are in backwards world, just got through reading today that some Christian numerologist claims the world will end Saturday, well hopefully after SEC FOOTBALL, I got my priorities in order!

 Other Hurricane Facts  some were intersting as to #s per year, named, earliest in season, latest in season etc.

 1495-1800 hurricane timelines

1800's hurricane timelines below

1815 -- Destructive hurricane hits New England
"The Great September Gale" hit New England in September of 1815. It first made landfall on Long Island, N.Y., and then again in Connecticut. The storm flooded Providene, R.I., and caused extensive damage throughout the region.

1819 -- Concept of hurricanes as "moving vortex" published
A Harvard professor concluded in an 1819 article that a hurricane "appears to have been a moving vortex and not the rushing forward of a great body of the atmosphere."

1837 -- "Racer's Storm" leaves 2,000-mile path of destruction
Racer's Storm, named for a British sloop of war which encountered the storm in the northwest Caribbean, was one of the most destructive storms of the 19th century. It formed near Jamaica, crossed the Yucatan, struck the Gulf coast of Texas, and moved over Lousiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina before arriving off the North Carolina coast on October 9.

1846 -- September hurricane creates inlets on the North Carolina Outer Banks
Two major inlets on the Outer Banks of North Carolina were cut by a hurricane in September 1846. Later in the year, a severe hurricane struck the Florida Keys destroying or damaging all but eight of the 600 houses in Key West. Some experts say this hurricane was probably a Category 5 on the Saffir-Simpson scale.

1848 -- Hurricane pushes a 15-foot tide through Tampa, Fla.
Fort Brooke, site of the present-day city of Tampa, was nearly destroyed by two hurricanes that hit the area within a month of each other.

1873 -- First hurricane warning issued in the U.S.
The U.S. Army Signal Corps warned of a storm approaching the coast between Cape May, N.J., and New London, Conn. The storm never made landfall.

1878 -- Hurricane remains over Florida for three days
A slow-moving hurricane made landfall in the Florida Keys and slowly made its way up the center of the state.

1881 -- Hurricane kills 700 in Georgia and South Carolina
Savannah and Augusta, Ga., experienced severe damage when this hurricane came ashore in August 1881. Several barrier islands were completely submerged by the storm surge.

1886 -- June storm dumps 21.4 inches of rain on Alexandria, La.
After flooding the Louisiana coast, the storm moved into Texas where it completely destroyed the city of Indianola. Indianola was never rebuilt.

1893 -- Two storms kill thousands in South
In August, between 1,000 and 2,000 are killed in a storm that submerged the South Carolina barrier islands. In October, another storm flooded a Louisiana bayou, killing 2,000 people.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/20/2017 3:10:58 PM

Don't forget the 1900 hurricane that submegerged Galveston Island killing approximately 6000 over a holiday weekend.. That must have been caused by those nasty steamships that replace the "green" sailing ships. Of  ourselves the limousine liberals private jets fly using wind and solar power.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Let the vile insults begin, doesn't bother me,
Date:	9/20/2017 4:28:53 PM

1780 -- Deadliest storm on record hits Caribbean 
The Great Hurricane of 1780 claimed an estimated 22,000 lives in the Caribbean and destroyed the British and French fleets. This remains the deadliest hurricane in recorded history.

1900 -- More than 6,000 die after storm washes over Galveston
The nation's deadliest natural disaster, the storm struck with little warning late on Sept. 8. Storm tides of 8 to 15 feet inundated Galveston Island and portions of the nearby Texas coast. The tides were largely responsible for the 8,000 deaths, with some estimates ranging as high as 12,000.