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water_watcher
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 6:48:47 AM
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I did not realize Obamacare was going to be so goo. My error. I can't wait.
Archie, my hat is off to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HcBaSP31Be8&vg=medium
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architect
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 8:08:22 AM (updated 3/13/2012 8:16:39 AM)
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WW, I can't spare 10 min but I listened to 2 min and can say without fear of being wrong...if you fall for that BS, then you deserve whatever you get!!
Oh, BTW Barney...where is that promised verifiable proof to your 3/5 claim that "Obamacare" specifically exempts Muslims from the law on religious grounds? Maybe if I listened to all the drivel WW posted I would have heard it!
Some of you guys are really swimming in the Koolade!!
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MrHodja
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3/13/2012 8:22:44 AM
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Pretty damning. If all is true, so much for individual liberty.
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Talullahhound
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3/13/2012 9:34:36 AM
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This is a bit too parsed for me. No context is provided as to the surrounding language. And then there are the "editorial" comments.
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water_watcher
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3/13/2012 10:26:01 AM
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You can always go read it yourself ... the developer of the video gives you page and section number for you to check it out.
It sounds like you are the ONLY one drinking the Koolade.
Hound, yes there are editorial comments ... but only after the specific wording was presented.
The problem is ... it is like what Nancy Pelosi said ... the dems need to pass it so they can find out what the bill says.
It is so massive that the truth is just starting to come out.
There are 3 doctors (that I specifically know) in my neighborhood in Atlanta, a lot of what is said in this video about approvals they will have to get, limitations on care, what specialist will be paid, are all very true. So when you turn talented doctors in to car mechanics, do you think we will have bright young minds choosing that profession, conisdering the education, hours, risks, etc? Don't think so.
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GoneFishin
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 1:33:13 PM
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This is just not true. The myths were from a 2009 email that was circulated before the bill was passed. If Water Boy wants to be taken as a serious poster he should read this and then respond.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/
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water_watcher
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 2:14:10 PM
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Hey pea brain ... why not look up the references in the actual bill and make your own determination as to what is truth. Why do you ALWAYS have to let someone else do your thinking for you.
You are such a spinless pathetic excuse for a man. And yes, I would gladly say that to your face, but you are too weak to ever back one of your lies. All you do is TRY to call other people's bluff, when it is you that can not even stand up and say why you support Oblamer. You are still talking about Palin.
Get with it man.
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architect
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 6:11:21 PM
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Dang WW, don't don't bust a carotid! You make Rush and Boortz seem reasonable. Your source is, let's call it like it is, a lying BS artist!
BTW GF...congratulations on your new lofty status.
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GoneFishin
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 6:15:39 PM (updated 3/13/2012 6:22:42 PM)
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Hey WW, when you post a lie be man enough to admit it rather than try to act like a teenager and insult the bearer of the truth. You seem to be obsessed with meeting me. Do you want to hold hands when we meet? The facts are simple...the U Tube you posted is not true and you can offer all the excuses to this pea brain and others but the fact remains it is not true. Do you have any words of wisdom to post that might impress me or others on the Forum?
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water_watcher
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 6:24:15 PM
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Actually, it gives me pleasure to rip such a coward apart. I do wish I could do it to his face.
The facts are the facts in the post ... look them up. Even is there were some revisions since that was put together ... the facts are that is what Obama and his puppets originally drafted, so you know where they are going.
It is sad that you can even defend such an assault on our personal freedomand choice ... not to mention the gradual destruction of our healthcare system. Sure there are some issues that need fixing ... but not this. Not even close.
If you have specific facts to say any of what was presented ... have at it. But it was fair and cited each section from the bill specifically.
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water_watcher
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Obamacare, I can hardly wait ...
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3/13/2012 6:25:46 PM
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Look it up yourself, then say which was not cited word for word ... then say it was a lie. I found it VERY factual.
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water_watcher
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where did I say ...
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3/13/2012 6:41:30 PM
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I wanted to meet you? Learn to read. What a spineless coward you are. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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I don't know what you are so angry about, but maybe you need to take a deep breath. You are bordering on abusive these days. I hope things are okay in your life, but you are coming across as a bully here. A little civility is in order. You don't have to take disagreements personally.
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Thanks for your concern ... I realize reading something is different that writing ... but believe me I am laughing responding to Archie and Jellyfish. In fact today my assistant came in my office as I was replying to one post and she asked what was so funny since I had a big grin on my face as I was typing. Both blindly dispute anything that uncovers the truths of the disaster some call president. Yet when given the opportunity, neither can or will say what has been positive in their view that deserves such loyalty to want 4 more years of this nightmare.
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I hear you, but don't make it so personal. And I think too highly of you to think you would say those ugly things to his face.
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GoneFishin
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WW
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3/13/2012 8:25:27 PM
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As to your post, you can continue to believe the crap in the video is true if it makes you feel important. You make it appear that it's a big deal to meet or tell me something to my face. If I see you on your dock some Sunday morning sipping coffee and using your laptop with your radio on, I will stop over so we can chat. Will you offer me a cup of coffee...black?
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now, now ... you are letting your class envy show again. Remember it was you that lied about where you live and got caught in the lie. Shame on you.
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GoneFishin
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fishy
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3/13/2012 8:51:41 PM
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Water Boy, do I intimidate you? You even evade a simple question. "Will you offer me a cup of coffee...black?"
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GoneFishin
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fishy
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3/13/2012 9:16:28 PM
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Water Boy, I did what ya requested. I looked up the first two as a start.Next time to maintain credibility, do some research before you post lies,
Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure! False: Section 113 of the bill requires the Health Choices commissioner to conduct a study to make sure health reform does not unintentionally create incentives for businesses to self-insure or create adverse selection in the risk pools of insured plans. There is no mandated audit.
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed! False: Section 122 outlines broad categories of benefits that must be included in an essential benefits package. It prohibits cost-sharing for preventive care and limits annual out-of-pocket spending to $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a family, indexed for inflation. It says nothing about rationing or limiting treatment.
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