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joyrider
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someone shot our dog
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11/7/2010 10:14:01 PM
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Okay,... so who knows the law as far as some "DA" shooting dogs that are NOT wild, unfriendly or harmful to people? We were at the lake this afternoon, and our lab (the most friendly dog you would run across) went romping around. As we got ready to leave, we yelled for him, but got nothing. So we drove up the street to an area we knew he'd been before playing with other dogs. My husband got out of the car and started walking through some over grown grass when he heard a shot, and then our dog came running out to him. We instantly noticed he was bleeding, so I loaded him in the car, and my husband headed toward the area he heard the shot. He saw two men going into a house and he yelled for them to come back outside. After several loud yells and a not so nice tone of voice, they came out. He questioned them, but they claimed they "don't even own a gun". This was the only occupied house on the street, and from where the shot came from. The lab was shot in his hind leg, in the hip area. He was shot with something about the size of a 33 calabor, says the vet. The bullet is 6 inches deep, and about a 1/4" from his pelvic. The vet said another 1/2" higher, and it would have hit his spine. They have kept him over night, and will discuss surgery in the morning unless they think more damage than good will be done.(They may have to leave the bullet) So,... the question is,.... Sheriff? Linching? what? What is the law,... although I know there is a leash law, but he had a bright orange collar on with a rabies tag, and NEVER once did we even hear him barking so they can't claim some "BS" that they were afraid of him. Anyone have an answer that will help?
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Casey
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someone shot our dog
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11/7/2010 10:23:22 PM
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No answer. I'm just so sorry.
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Kizma Anuice
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someone shot our dog
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11/7/2010 10:32:51 PM
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§ 13A-11-14. Cruelty to Animals.
(a) A person commits the crime of cruelty to animals if, except as otherwise authorized by law, he intentionally or recklessly:
(1) Subjects any animal to cruel mistreatment; or
(2) Subjects any animal in his custody to cruel neglect; or
(3) Kills or injures without good cause any animal belonging to another.
(b) Cruelty to animals is a Class B misdemeanor.
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ODB
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someone shot our dog
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11/7/2010 10:37:28 PM
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well, I might wind up in a world of trouble and possibly need medical aid, but there would be a big a## whipping there, one way or another. It might take several trips even, but they would finally realized it was not a good move on their part. Also, I don't play fair when I'm real upset.
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XRF4WSO
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 9:23:03 AM
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Where on the Lake? What road is the house on where the shot came from?
I hope you find out for sure who the SOB's were that did it and are able to hang them. I have three Labs. If someone shot one of my dogs it would be like shooting a family member. I would track them down until I found them. Then, well, you can figure out the rest of it.
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muddauber
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 9:43:54 AM (updated 11/8/2010 9:48:33 AM)
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I'd go ahead and report it to the sheriff. Pretty sure they'd have something to say about shotting a dog.
Actually, I'd have to wonder why the vet hasn't notified the game warden. They have tremendous powers, such as searching a house to find any weapons, etc.
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Pontoonfisher
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 11:03:33 AM
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I am very sorry that your dog was shot but the bottom line is that your dog was probably on their property. You have no idea what their past experience with dogs are. Some people are so terrified of dogs and feel very threatened by them. If an animal is on your property and you feel threatened you have every right to defend yourself, even if it means shooting it. We have a golden retriever the we know would not hurt anyone but other people don't that. We would never let our dog loose around at the lake for fear of what may happen to her. Lake Martin is a rural area and people follow a different set of rules. Dogs get shot down their all the time.
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Talullahhound
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 2:02:25 PM
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I definitely would report it to the sheriff. They may not be willing to do anything if the dog was on private property, but at least you will have it on record. It's hard to believe that anyone would be cruel enough to shoot a dog, but those people are out there. Some people are just mean.
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MartiniMan
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 2:20:20 PM
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Hope you are not in the Sandy Creek area but I doubt it. There are tons of dogs that roam the neighborhood and we know them all. Our grill is usually on their daily path, if just for a good sniff. Seems strange to me that someone would do that other than to just be mean but you never know, maybe there is a dog in the area that is causing problems and they mistook yours for that one.
I agree with Hound, a call to the Sheriff might be a good idea, especially if they violated an ordinance on discharging a gun.
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roswellric
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What a bunch of BS
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11/8/2010 9:32:43 PM
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That post was.... Nice try.
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Hawks Nest
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 9:35:22 PM
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I doubt anyone was terrified of a lab. However, many hunters do not like dogs that roam their property during hunting season, especially some don't like dogs used to run deer. If your dog had orange, possibly they thought your dog was a hunting dog. I've heard many stories of hunters shooting roaming dogs, even one's that looked like pets. Hope of turns out okay for your pup.
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roswellric
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Get used to it.
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11/8/2010 9:39:24 PM
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I believe there is a biblical quote that if your cattle strays into your land your obligation is to return it to its rightful owner. Its the way of doing unto others. These are not good people that do these deeds so you have to understand your neighbors...good and evil. You should be careful to let the law handle these matters.
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alahusker
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someone shot our dog
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11/8/2010 9:40:08 PM
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Call the sheriff Pontoon fisher is full of it.. I live on the lake full time, we have lots of neighborhood dogs and after 15 y years I know of no one shooting anything except an pesky armadillo or muskrat.. Any shooting dogs should be held accountable.. Makes me very angry just thinking about it..
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roswellric
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Nice try #2
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11/8/2010 9:43:14 PM
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I would think that deer hunters are smart enought to distinguish between a lost lab and a pack of wild dogs running deer. If not they shouldn't be hunting with a weapon.
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Pontoonfisher
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 7:40:52 AM
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Hey guys, grow up. The reality is the dog is the owners responsbility. You can not let your dog have free range at the lake. I like the response of the one person that said they have a bunch of dogs that run loose around their house. All that tells me is that you have a bunch of irresponsible pet owners. It's disrespectful to let your dog run loose. Take responsibility for what you own.
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Pontoonfisher
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 7:46:35 AM
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I can just see the conversation.
Owner "Someone shot my dog"
Sheriff "Where?"
Owner "I don't know"
Sheriff "Do you know who?"
Owner "No, but I think it was those people over there"
Sheriff "Did you see them do it"
Owner "No"
Sheriff "Was your dog on a leash"
Owner "No, we always just let him loose all the time"
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BEARTRAPPER
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 9:00:18 AM
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i own several hunting dogs , and yes i hunt deer with them ,i have seen this happen before, there is severe penaltys for shooting someones dogs, yes, contact the S.O. and file a report, they will investigate, and prosecute, the only thing you can shoot at someones dog with is a bb gun , the posters saying nothing can be done , know not what they are talking about.
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Nocona
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 11:14:10 AM
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One of our hunting dogs was shot a few years ago, on our own property. I called the SO and made a report, they investigated. It was never found out who shot her.
I say call and make a report, tell them what you seen. They will go talk to the people. Be willing to prosecute.
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F1Fan
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 2:34:09 PM
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It really would be helpful to know what road this was on. It's a big lake, but if I've got idiots in my neighborhood popping off rounds at a dog or anything else I want to know for my own family's protection and precaution. As it is, you've narrowed it down to a couple counties only.
I personally would have called the sheriff on the spot. Absent the dog chewing on a kid, there's no reasonable cause for this no matter how far in the country you are and they were complete idiots. Your husband is very lucky he didn't get shot as well, accidentally or intentionally.
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Woodrow
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someone shot our dog
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11/9/2010 11:22:36 PM
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PToon -- I'm certainly glad I live no where close to you on this beautiful lake. I'll refrain from further comment, but to say people with your attitude might consider staying "in town" and "fenced in."
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Pontoonfisher
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someone shot our dog
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11/10/2010 7:31:11 AM
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Hey Woody, Ya'll misunderstand me. Bottom line, it is rude and inconsiderate to let your pet have free range anywhere other than your own property. It is also irresponsible as a pet owner. It is people's laziness that they they let their pets run loose. It is easier to just open the door and let your pet run loose. This is what happens when people do this. Dogs get shot, hit by cars, attacked by other dogs, etc. These people think that their neighbors have no problem with there dogs running loose. I guarantee you that it is pissing one of their neighbors off
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A dog was shot and killed near the Bay Pine Area of the lake earlier this year. It was a golden or lab. It was in it's own driveway. Not sure of the area you were in, but if it's the same general area, the police have this on record. I do not know the details, but was told by a neighbor a few months back.
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roswellric
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I agree....
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11/10/2010 9:58:56 AM
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You are right about many owners not keeping their dogs in and not being responsible for their damage. I can't say how many times we have cleaned up garbage after the dogs have knocked it over. But I don't think that is license to shoot a dog. Maybe they should shoot the owner instead :-) The other side of the coin is if you have a dog no matter how careful you are it will get loose on rare occasion.
The LARGER problem is some owners will not get their dogs spayed & neutered. Many times this is caused by a Neanderthal attitude that projects feelings about sexuality on to the dog. Trust me. The dog really doesn't care. The chances that a dog will roam, cause problems and get injured are greatly reduced by neutering. They will be happier and much better pets. And we won't have as many abandoned dogs that die horrible deaths as a result.
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Summer Lover
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Agree
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11/10/2010 9:59:49 AM
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We keep our dog in our yards because we care about her - it is that simple. When we go to the lake, we have to clean up the yard - chewed up everything and piles left to greet us, courtesy of those who care not.....
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Summer Lover
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I agree....
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11/10/2010 10:02:18 AM
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The "owners" are NOT being parents - happens too often with kids AND pets.
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joyrider
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Update on Charlie
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11/10/2010 12:30:27 PM
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Thanks for everyone who made suggestions to us about what to do.
Charlie will be fine. The Vet decided to leave the bullet, since removing it would probably cause him to drag his leg.
There would most likely be nerve damage if taken out.
Let me explain to some of you people how we care for Charlie. He is normally in an Invisable Fence. We don't typically let him run, but since it was so quiet at the lake and no one was around, we decided to let him outside of the fence. He had stayed close to my husband for most of the day, but disappeared moments before we left.Since it WAS so quiet, we could hear his rabies and his name tags dangling together LONG before we saw him.
The VET asked a police officer to look at the photos and xrays that she took. The bullet is lodged 6 inches deep, and he was shot with a 22 at about 20 feet away from an upward direction. (You can see the burn mark the bullet left as it entered the skin). Meaning,... either an adult shot him or the shot came from a higher position. LIKE FROM THE 2 STORY DECK THE MEN CAME FROM. Thankfully, the bullet did travel in a downward direction and not straight in or he would not be walking today. He is NOT one of these dogs that goes into the garbage, and he has been sent off to training for behavioral skills. He's a good dog, that would not hurt anyone. So the ones who shot him can not claim they were being "threatened". My husband did make a report through the sheriff's department, but made a quick assumption that nothing would be followed through with his report.
I'm sorry if this sounds angry, but I am. Angry that someone that lives in such close range of other homes would be so stupid to fire a gun AND be so heartless as to shot an innocent dog.
Thanks again for those of you that showed compassion and had for those who offered suggestions on how to handle this.
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Summer Lover
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Update on Charlie
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11/10/2010 2:44:10 PM
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Glad to hear he will be OK, I do NOT want to go through the same with Maizy.....
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Lakeshore
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Update on Charlie
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11/19/2010 8:47:15 AM
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Where was this at? I skimmed this thread and did not see the location.
My mother is guilty of letting 'Sandy' (sandy colored lab) run loose. I do not approve but she is tagged and very friendly and she has not received complaints. Not too many full time residents out here near us BUT there are about hlaf a dozen dogs that slip on and off our property. Hard to get upset when mom let's Sandy run loose often. Most dogs are not much bother but there a couple that concern us. One is a pit. I hate pit bulls. I don't care HOW MUCH you think that dog is safe.. IT IS NOT. If it ever becomes a concern and I feel threatened while it's on my prperty, I will shoot it and won't feel a bit of remorse, either. That being said, I do agree with pontoon. We have way too many dogs running around out here. It's worse in the summer... the visitors come up... let the dog out of the car and collect it (if they can) when they leave. Def not responsible pet owners. I guess they think this is their chance to let their dog have free reign.
I hope no one would shoot Sandy and I would never shoot a dog without some serious cause. These guys that MAY have shot your dog just for the heck of it need some good ol boy attitude adjustment.
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Excape
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someone shot our dog
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11/21/2010 3:53:01 PM
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I'm so sorry about Charlie, but am glad he's going to be OK. We have a chocolate lab that we try to keep close this time of year. Our neighbors have had their dogs killed by hunters in the area who believed the dogs were hurting their hunting. I can't understand anyone maliciously shooting or killing a pet.
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