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lotowner
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SNOPES.COM
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4/15/2010 9:45:46 AM
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About SNOPES.COM <'"http://snopes.com/>'
Who watches the watchers?
For the past few years http://www.snopes.com/ has positioned
tself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell-all final word'
on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people
tried to find out who exactly was behind http://www.snopes.com/.
Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda made
you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is
run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of
investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a
mom-and pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara
Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the
website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background
or experience in investigative research. After a few years it
gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but
over the past couple of years people started asking questions
who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation?
The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of
http://www.snopes.com/ claiming to have the bottom line facts
to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven
wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not
really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various
issues.
A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in
Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and
made a big splash across the internet, 'supposedly' the
Mikkelsons claim to have researched this issue before posting
their findings on http://www.snopes.com/. In their statement
they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg
into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort
'ever' took place. I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and
he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the
bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers
- and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's
at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak
with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from
Bud Gregg no one from http://www.snopes.com/ ever contacted
anyone with State Farm. Yet, http://www.snopes.com/ issued a
statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they
did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!
Then it has been learned the Mikkelsons are Democrats and
extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential
election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything
that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism
lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelsons
liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what
a shock?
So, I say this now to everyone who goes to
http://www.snopes.com/ to get what they think to be the bottom
line facts ... 'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at
face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to
their references where you can link to and read the sources for
yourself. Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the
research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the
Mikkelsons do. After all, I can> personally vouch from my
own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.
http://www.wikipedia.org/
http://www.snopes.com/
I have found this to be true also! Many videos of Obama I tried
to verify on Snopes and they said they were False... Then they
gave their Liberal slant...!!! I have suspected some problems
with snopes for some time now, but I have only caught them in
half-truths. If there is any subjectivity they do an immediate
full left rudder. Truth or Fiction's web-site
http://www.truthorfiction.com/ is a better source for
verification, in my opinion.
I have recently discovered that is http://www.snopes.com/ owned
by a flaming liberal and this man is in the tank for Obama.
There are many things they have listed on their site as a hoax
and yet you can go to YouTube yourself and find the video of
Obama actually saying these things. So you see, you cannot and
should not trust http://www.snopes.com/ for anything that
remotely resembles truth (SIC ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
LIBERAL vs CONSERVATIVE CONCERNS)! I don't even trust them to
tell me if email chains are hoaxes anymore..
A few conservative speakers on MySpace told me about
http://www.snopes.com/ a few months ago and I took it upon
myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well,
I found out for myself that it is true.. Anyway just FYI, please
don't use http://www.snopes.com/ anymore for fact checking and
make your friends aware of their political leanings as well.
Many people still think http://www.snopes.com/ is neutral and
they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is
aware that that is a hoax in itself.
Thank you,
Alan Strong, CEO/Chairman
Commercial Programming Systems, Inc.
4400 Coldwater Canyon Ave. Suite 200
Studio City, CA. 91604-5039
Phone: 888-277-4562 EX. 306/
Direct 888-812-9234 or 818-308-8561
Mobile 818-522-9319
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Talullahhound
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SNOPES.COM
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4/15/2010 12:22:00 PM
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Wikopedia... the site where anyone can write anything and add it with no screening at all? The one where people make a game out of adding the outrageous... ?
I'll take Snopes any day, even if they are sometimes incorrect. Snopes was around long before this last political round, so I doubt they have any hidden political agenda. It's no news that it was started by a husband and wife as a hobby.
I read snopes in good fun. I would never take it as the official bottom line for anything, but I do think they are very good at busting some of the "urban" legends that get sent around.
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Lifer
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SNOPES.COM
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4/15/2010 12:40:44 PM
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I would put Wikipedia's accuracy against the NYT. Yes there are those that post malicious content. But those folks are the exception not the rule. Wiki works because the good out number the bad and when BS is posted it is promptly corrected. Lots of folks take it very seriuosly. The subcrisers that post content usually get alerts when it is changed. The really suprising aspect is that no matter what the subject, somebody cares enough to track it and keep it accurate. It actually is a hobby to most of them.
And BTW- I just read recently that wiki means 'many' in native Hawaian. I din't Snope it though...lol. Or wiki it either for that matter.
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Talullahhound
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SNOPES.COM
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4/15/2010 5:35:08 PM
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You are in the minority in your view about wikopedia. But, if you like it, so be it.
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Lifer
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Heres a challenge.
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4/15/2010 5:51:43 PM
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Find something inaccurate on wikipedia and post a link.
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Talullahhound
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Heres a challenge.
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4/15/2010 8:03:01 PM
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No thanks. I don't care enough to spend my time that way. Life is short.
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Lifer
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In other words....
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4/16/2010 8:30:39 AM
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.. I can't.
Once again, you are quick to criticize and dismiss with no evidence.
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MAJ USA RET
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In other words....
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4/16/2010 9:31:34 AM
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She's taking a haitus on this one... again.
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but I'm don't feel like it and I'm not going to. I have nothing to prove.
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Tall Cotton
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I can
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4/16/2010 10:11:04 PM
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Taking the high moral ground huh?
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GoneFishin
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Hey Lifer
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4/16/2010 10:50:24 PM
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GoneFishin
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Hey Lifer
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4/16/2010 10:54:34 PM
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What do you plan to do with the info? If you actually believe everything posted on Wiki is true then you really do live in a fantasy world. If Wiki catches it they do delete it. Lifer, you are a big boy I assume....baiting Hound is rather middle school stuff.
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| Name: |
Lifer
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Hey fishy
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4/17/2010 9:31:08 AM
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I don't beleive everything I see 'posted' anywhere. I didn't say that Wiki was the end all, absolute authority, on anything. I have seen reports that put it's accuracy in the high 90's percentile at any given moment, probably higher than the NYT or any other large newspaper still mamaging to stay alive. On the other hand, I also know that many colleges/professors won't allow it as a source, but some do. But if you just want a quick overview of about any subject it is great. The links are there to source material also. I haven't researched it, but I would bet Wiki gets more hits a day than any other encyclapedia web site (World Book, Britania, etc.) . Maybe even as many as all the others combined.
I choose to look at/for the good in folks and assume most are honest. To totally disregard Wiki is to say you have no faith in your fellow man/cyber citizen. I don't let the few on the fringe taint my veiw of others.
And Fishy, I don't know what you are talking about. "Bait" Hound? How do you bait a hound? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Nope. I just don't have the time. This time of year, I'd rather be outside.
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