Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/12/2021 1:05:55 PM

The narrative is that its mostly Republicans that are opposed to the jab, right?  Not so much.  A recent Kaiser poll found out that only 20% of those not getting the vaccine are Republican with another 19% Independents that lean GOP.  The remaining 61% were either Democrats, Independents that don't lean GOP or unidentified party affiliation.  Of the 61%, 41% self identified as Democrat.  Think about that and the media narrative.  More than double the number of Democrats that won't take the vaccine versus Republicans.  But the narrative is the exact 100% opposite.  This is why you can't trust the media or Democrats.  They are either stupid, ignorant or willfully lie to support their partisan political goals.....well, ok.....maybe all three.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/12/2021 4:57:18 PM (updated 7/12/2021 4:57:57 PM)

Tell me its not so - I heard just the other day that it was all those flag burning, gun hating, pruis driving republican rednecks who were so antivax, that talking picture box told me so.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	HUH!
Date:	7/12/2021 9:56:08 PM (updated 7/12/2021 10:00:34 PM)

Either MM does not know how to read a poll, he is lying (I think l know which...''they lie to support their political goals'') or there has been a new Poll with shocking results exactly opposite previous polls.   A kaiser poll in January and another in March showed very different results.  Tell us oh brilliant one, what poll are you referencing!

Some of you MM worshippers please pass this along since he is part of the ''cancel culture'' and refuses to allow any opinions not in lock step with his to enter his brain.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/13/2021 8:34:08 AM

Sort of like all the Asian hate crimes being committed by black MAGA supporters.......the narrative is an abject lie.  And because the alternate media Americans know the truth.....at least most of them do.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	HUH!
Date:	7/13/2021 2:48:37 PM (updated 7/13/2021 2:49:38 PM)

You continually give everyone an "exact" picture of yourself every time you refer to MM as "someone who refuses to allow any opinions not in lock step with his to enter his brain".

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Why does he block those he disagrees with?
Date:	7/15/2021 11:42:37 PM (updated 7/15/2021 11:44:44 PM)

Now Buteye, maybe you can give us a link to the polle MM is referencing since he does not consider it important?  No poll with the results claimed is on the Kaiser site.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Why does he block those he disagrees with?
Date:	7/16/2021 9:04:25 AM

Funny from someone who stated proudly that he was setting me and several others on the site to ignore.  Why do you block those you disagree with ?  Why do you?  huh?? Goose / Gander   Pot / Kettle.

Hold others to the standards you yourself will never attempt - the Antifatech way.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	I know longer block you Phil
Date:	7/16/2021 5:21:27 PM (updated 7/16/2021 5:23:24 PM)

because you, on a very rare occasion you screw up and say something that makes at least minimal sense.  Your post above was not one of them I'm afraid.  I still block Lifer and WIX because they simply spew hatred of anybody, and I mean anybody, that is not lockstep with their Fascist hate filled heart.  I do not block extremist politics, I do block unsdultersted hate!

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT loves PHIL!!!!!
Date:	7/16/2021 8:11:20 PM

Phil, you are slippin’ into ARCHY’s cesspool.  Be careful, he may want to kiss ya!  I’m very proud to still celebrate being on da ARCH-SH_T LIST.

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/17/2021 1:13:40 AM

Read quickly, your tax money is attempting to erase this..........

https://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/07/16/bombshell-research-buried-by-press-natural-covid-immunity-6-72-times-more-effective-than-vaccines/

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/18/2021 11:23:42 AM

Looked up this Robert W Malone, seems legit. 

He just tweeted  "So, I guess I have to say this. I am not suicidal. I am at peace with myself and the world."

https://www.infowars.com/posts/this-is-worrying-me-quite-a-bit-mrna-vaccine-inventor-shares-viral-thread-showing-covid-surge-in-most-vaxxed-countries/

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	I know longer block you Phil
Date:	7/19/2021 8:48:15 AM (updated 7/19/2021 8:49:56 AM)

Bwhhahahahah no you unblocked me so you did not have to keep logging off to read what I say and still having to respond to me - I live rent free in your head like DJT.

So did I change which is what allowed me to post in your world?  I do not think I have changed.  Maybe you just got tired of having your lies pointed out and having to log off to read the responses.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-IDIOT loves PHIL!!!!!
Date:	7/19/2021 8:49:12 AM

Maybe I do need to ratchet up the hate a little more - he was more tolerable(but not by much) when he had me blocked.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	For the skeptics
Date:	7/19/2021 10:13:55 AM

I know, I know....it's from cnnBS......but lefties love cnnBS so it helps.  And just in case you want to remain in ignorance here is the money quote from the article.

The most recent Kaiser poll helps illustrate that the vaccine hesitant group doesn't really lean Republican. Just 20% of the group called themselves Republican with an additional 19% being independents who leaned Republican. The clear majority (61%) were not Republicans (41% said they were Democrats or Democratic leaning independents and 20% were either pure independents or undesignated).

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/09/politics/vaccine-hesitant-analysis/index.html

I so love to skewer left wing nuts with facts.  Y'all should know by now not to stay stuck on stupid and doubt me on these things.  That of course leaves out certain people that are perpetually stuck on stupid.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Why does he block those he disagrees with?
Date:	7/19/2021 12:33:18 PM (updated 7/19/2021 12:33:45 PM)

If you look below MM now has posted the link to the article in question from the "right wing" CNN.  I am not going to put the link to MMs post or the CNN article as you need to do some of the effort yourself.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	You should take a look Phil
Date:	7/19/2021 5:34:38 PM (updated 7/19/2021 5:42:24 PM)

because the poll is NOT of all Americans (the clear implication based on MM's post) but only of those who have not been vaccinated.  Currently 80% of the Democrats, 69% of the neutrals and 49% of the Repubs have had at least one stick or fully intend to get the shot and were not included in the poll.  Per MM's poll the unstuck leftovers are actually about evenly split between Repubs/lean Repubs (39%) and Democrats/lean Democrat (41%).  That is NOT, as MM claimed illustrative of more Democrats than Repubs refusing the vaccine...it is illustrative of a near even split between those who have not gotten the vaccine!  Dishonest MM. dishonest!!!!  31% MORE Dmocrats HAVE OR INTEND to get the vaccine than Republicans!!  If you are not able to see the difference then I cannot help you but you do need help.

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Some interesting stats about the anti-vax crowd
Date:	7/19/2021 8:31:03 PM

https://magainstitute.com/bombshell-whistleblower-reveals-more-than-45000-americans-are-dead-from-the-jab-record-deaths-hidden-from-view-lawsuit-filed-today/

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/physicians-group-bidens-home-vaccine-visits-unconstitutional-unethical/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking&ats_es=8f0f31e51307de3cf7a69311bae87aa2

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	You should take a look Phil
Date:	7/20/2021 8:38:57 AM (updated 7/20/2021 8:40:17 AM)

Funny - I would think that like yourself other Demonrats would relesh the stick.... based on what you just said the leftovers are not taking it in at best even numbers, but when I looked at that same article it did indicate that Demonrats were more hesitant - maybe has to do with the POC syphlis experiments who knows, but they have decided not to trust the Government - so I think the message that MM was putting out that Republicans are killing people by not getting the stick is very much valid.

Keep spinning

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	I made a big mistake
Date:	7/20/2021 11:41:42 AM

I looked at the Forum before I logged in and against my better judgement read some of Archie's drivel.  To which I will reply.

One, please look at the subject of my post and the first line.  I specifically address those that are "anti-vax".....not every American.  I know simple English is hard for left wing nuts.  The fact is that in this poll the number of self identified Democrats not getting the vaccine are double those of self-identified Republicans.  And lest you stupidly want to lump in the GOP-leaning independents with Republicans you must also lump the left leaning Independents with the Democrats...in which case the number is still almost double.

Two, I don't have Archie on ignore because he disagrees with me.  There are lots of left-leaning Forum members that are not on my ignore list....in fact, Archie is about the only one.  I put Archie on ignore because he once stated that he was perfectly fine with Americans dying from COVID and being economically ruined by the economic shutdown if it got rid of Trump.  It is that kind of vile, hateful, disgusting and reprehensible viewpoint that got him on my ignore list.  When someone is that far into the gutter filled with excrement and loathing I prefer to allow them to wallow in their own evil and not engage with them.  There's a long list of former world leaders that were OK with mass deaths, misery and economic ruin if it helped them advance their political or ideological ambitions.  I would have them on ignore as well. 

All I can say is that thank the good Lord Archie is a lonely, powerless and bitter old man consumed by hatred but without the political power to act on his warped beliefs.  So we got that going for us.  :-) Now for my daily prayer...."Dear Lord, please protect me today and don't allow me to enter a building designed by Archie.  Amen!"

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	I made a big mistake
Date:	7/20/2021 2:05:14 PM

because you, on a very rare occasion you screw up and say something that makes at least minimal sense.  Your post above was not one of them I'm afraid.  I still block Lifer and WIX because they simply spew hatred of anybody, and I mean anybody, that is not lockstep with their Fascist hate filled heart.  I do not block extremist politics, I do block unsdultersted hate!

I find it funny that he claims to block people for a hate filled heart, sadly I doubt the forum has the option where he can block himself.

To be honest I have often thought to ignore him myself, but would miss the people responding to him that often I get a good chuckle from.

I produce his own words above as example 408 of his projection of his own traits onto others.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	I made a big mistake
Date:	7/20/2021 4:10:37 PM

He is the king of projection for sure.  He grew up as a racist redneck in GA so he sees racism in everyone else.  He loves the fascism of the left with political correctness, cancel culture, big tech censorship, etc. but loves to call Trump a fascist (a term I can assure you he does not understand).  The dripping irony of a guy who wished death and economic ruin on his fellow Americans simply to get rid of Trump putting others on ignore.  Lifer and Wix pale in comparison to that kind of hateful rhetoric.  But I can assure he is too obtuse to see his obvious and blinding hypocrisy. 

As for me, I will do my best to not slow down to gape at the car wreck of his posts before I log in and he blissfully disappears.  It does me no good and he is invincibly ignorant and like an old dog, will never change.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	The big lie
Date:	7/21/2021 9:47:20 PM (updated 7/21/2021 9:57:08 PM)

1/  It is not obviously clear from your post that the numbers you quote include only those who had not been vaccinated and had no intention of doing so.

2/  The poll does not show twice as many of those who had no intention of getting the shot were Democrats vs Republicans

3/  The bottom line is that so far 31% more people calling themselves Democrats have or intend to get the shot than Republicans

4/  Over 95% of the new cases have not been vaccinated and over 99.5% of those who die had not been vaccinated.

5/  The death rate among the non-vaccinated might explain why the Repubs seem to be getting a lot more interested in backing the vaccination...they are starting to lose a lot of voters.

6/  Even though MM called me a baby killer because I do not presume it is my nor the governments right tell a woman how to handle an unexpected and possibly traumatic pregnancy, I still read his BS on a regular basis.  

As for MM putting only me but not the other ''leftest'' on this forum on ignore...good, then maybe the other 3 reasonable people may occasionally offset the drivel coming from 95% of this forum!