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Name:	SeaRayMan -	Reply
Subject:	The Truth and only the Truth
Date:	1/9/2008 11:03:01 AM

Thought this was pretty amazing and interesting!!

For all the scientists out there, and for all the
students who have a hard time convincing these
people regarding the truth of the Bible, here's
something that shows God's awesome creation, and
that He is still in control.

Did you know that the space program is busy proving
that what has been called "myth" in the Bible is true?

Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine
Company in Baltimore, Maryland, and a consultant in
the space program, relates the following development.

I think one of the most amazing things that God has
done for us today happened recently to our
astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland .

They were checking out where the positions of the
sun, moon, and planets would be 100 years and 1,000
years from now.. We have to know this so we won't
send up a satellite and have it bump into something
later on in its orbits.

We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life
of the satellite and where the planets will be so
the whole thing will not bog down.
They ran the computer measurement back and forth
over the centuries, and it came to a halt. The
computer stopped and put up a red signal, which
meant that there was something wrong with either the
information fed into it or with the results as
compared to the standards.

They called in the service department to check it
out, and they said, 'What's wrong?' Well, they found
there is a day missing in space in elapsed time.

They scratched their heads and tore their hair out..
There was no answer.

Finally a Christian man on the team said, 'You know,
one time I was in Sunday School, and they talked
about the sun standing still.' While they didn't
believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so
they said, 'Show us, '

He got a Bible and went to the book of Joshua where
they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one
with 'common sense.'

There they found the Lord saying to Joshua,
'Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand;
there shall not a man of them stand before Thee.'

Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by
the enemy! And if darkness fell, they would
overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the
sun stand still! That's right... 'The sun stood
still and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down
about a whole day!' (Joshua 10:12-13)

The astronauts and scientists said, There is the
missing day! They checked the computers going back
into the time it was written and found it was close
but not close enough. The elapsed time that was
missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20
minutes . not a whole day.

They read the Bible, and there it was about
[approximately] a day. These little words in the
Bible are important, but they were still in trouble
because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll
still be in trouble 1000 years from now.

Forty minutes had to be found because it can be
multiplied many times over in orbits. As the
Christian employee thought about it, he remembered
somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went
BACKWARDS.

The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but
they got out the Book and read these words in 2
Kings that told of the following story: Hezekiah, on
his death bed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who
told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah
asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said 'Do you want
the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?'

Hezekiah said, 'It is nothing for the sun to go
ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward
10 degrees.' Isaiah spoke to the Lord, and the Lord
brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! Ten degrees
is exactly 40 minutes!

Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40
minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the
universe! Isn't it amazing?

References: Joshua 10:8 and 12,13 and 2 Kings 20:9-11.
WHO SAYS THAT GOD IS NOT IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING!!!!

Name:	MythBuster -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/9/2008 12:25:29 PM

"Regardless of the amount of time involved, the discovery of a "missing" period of time remains implausible. If the sun had indeed stood still for a day a few millennia ago, we would have no way of determining that fact through astronomic observations today. We have no frame of reference, no "cosmic calendar" or "master clock" to check against to see if we're overdrawn at the Bank of Time. The concept described here would be like giving someone a non-functioning clock and asking him to determine how much time had elapsed since the clock had stopped running. One could note the positions of the hands on the dial and make a reasonable guess about what the time of day was when the clock stopped running, but without knowing whether that time was A.M. or P.M., and without knowing the calendar date on which stoppage occurred, one could not possibly make any reasonable estimate about how long ago the clock stopped.

Even the putative reasons offered for the scientists' performing the calculations described in this legend make little sense. We need not know about any "missing time" in the past in order to be able to launch spacecraft today. Even if the sun really did once stand still for a day, that would have absolutely no effect on where the sun, the moon, or the other planets are going to be one hundred or one thousand years from now. If we put a new battery in our stopped clock, all we have to do to get it back on track is to set it to the correct time — we don't need to determine how much time the clock "lost" while it wasn't running to be assured that it will display the correct time in the future.

Although the notion of a "lost day" in time has been circulating for well over a century, the version cited here — the one that has been bedevilling NASA since the 1960s — achieved pre-eminence through the tireless efforts of Mr. Harold Hill, who was indeed both a real person and the President of the Curtis Engine Company. However, he had no real connection to NASA, he was not a "consultant in the space program," and he did not witness the events described. Mr. Hill heard a "lost day" legend that had been circulating for many years, embellished it with some details about NASA scientists, and delighted in repeating it when speaking before school groups. His version of the legend made its way into various church bulletins and was eventually picked up and spread by the mainstream media as well, and he devoted a whole chapter to it in his 1974 book, How to Live Like a King’s Kid. (This book lent additional credibility to his tenuous NASA connections — and thus to the legend itself — when he stated that he "was involved [in the space program] from the start, through contractual arrangements with my company." His "involvement" was merely that the Curtis Engine Company had a contract with NASA to service electrical generators.) Even Hill's admission that he hadn't actually witnessed the events he described clearly wasn't intended to dissuade anyone from believing in the literal truthfulness of his story: "[M]y inability to furnish documentation of the 'Missing day' incident in no way detracts from its authenticity."

Authenticity matters little, though — our willingness to accept legends depends far more upon their expression of concepts we want to believe than upon their plausibility. If the sun once really did stand still for a day, the best evidence we'd have for proving it would be the accounts of people who saw it happen. That is what the Bible is said to offer. Some of us accept that, and some of us don't."

URL: Just the facts

Name:	Kizma Anuice -	Reply
Subject:	MUSIC MAN
Date:	1/10/2008 7:24:18 AM

I thought that they proved Harold Hill a fake and a con man in "THE MUSIC MAN"

Name:	CAT BOAT -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 10:42:21 AM

Interesting reading. Myth, what is it that you do for a living?

Name:	LifeTime Laker -	Reply
Subject:	MUSIC MAN
Date:	1/10/2008 11:19:26 AM

Now that's Trouble, and that starts with T and rhymes with P and that stands for Pool.

Name:	Lakeman -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 11:19:58 AM

Cat, Myth is our man who keeps us straight on facts. Myth give us the lowdown on Moses parting the Reed Sea as he led the children of Isreal out of Egypt. There were some very strange events that occured prior to and after the crossing.

Name:	CAT BOAT -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 11:23:55 AM

Yes, I read the posts' of Myth. He has a wealth of knowledge it seems. Just wondering about where all this comes from. Although all seems ligit, my motto is "If you can't dazzle them with inteligence, baffle them with bullsheet". Kinda like LTL. LMAO

Name:	Lakeman -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 11:35:15 AM

Exactly Cat. LOL!

Name:	pi11pipe -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 12:18:28 PM

"There were some very strange events that occured prior to and after the crossing."--- Says who?

Name:	farmboy -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 2:39:51 PM

You guys should bring all this wealth of knowledge to Niffer,s at the Lake and play triva with us on Thursday nite. $40. 1st , $25 2nd, and $15 3rd. Lots of fun and frolic!

Name:	Feb -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 2:44:39 PM

Is it like Starbucks and you can use your laptop with wify connectivity or maybe clothesline connectivity?

I am just joshing. LOL

Name:	farmboy -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 3:13:54 PM

They have seven rounds seven questions per round. Everyone writes down their answers and they pick up the slips. They give the answers and standings after each round.Usually there are 7 to 10 teams.It goes down pretty quick so people have very little time to phone afriend or whatever. Just fun.

Name:	Lakeman -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/10/2008 6:45:56 PM

Says me pillpipe. They were strange to me. I don't know what you though about them but if you have an itch then scratch it. I'm always open to enlightenment.

Name:	NautiMinded -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/11/2008 12:01:10 AM

Is he THAT old?

Name:	pi11pipe -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/11/2008 12:53:21 AM

I don't know if they were strange or not, I wasn't there. But you were?

Name:	Feb -	Reply
Subject:	Yep,
Date:	1/11/2008 8:39:07 AM

He saved me from drowning.

Name:	Lakeman -	Reply
Subject:	FALSE
Date:	1/11/2008 8:16:54 PM

Well pill you go have fun ya hear.

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