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greycove
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 9:44:29 AM
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Some friends from Atlanta tell me they have heard (can't confirm) that Georgia counties where Lake Lanier is located limit the number of PWCs individual's can purchase permits to operate. Exceptions are made if you are in the business. Wondered if anyone on the forum might have more details?
Unfortunately, for us Alabamains, we seem to think what is good for Georgia is good for Alabama. Limits coming here?
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PikeSki
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 10:08:44 AM
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Greycove
I haven't been to lake lanier in a while (and am from Atlanta) but from hearing all of the restrictions they are putting on everyone there this wouldn't even make me raise an eye brow. Do you know what the limit of PWC per house is on Lanier? We own 2 right now. I hope the boat ban spot light doesn't shine in our direction for a looooong time.
I would love to hear if anyone know about this as well.
Hey CAT . . . can you make my Waverunners do triple digits?
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HOTROD
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 10:34:53 AM
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anyone who believes that is a dumba$$. so easy to get around no legislature would be dumb enough to pass it.
set up corp. or trust to own as many or as few as one as you would like.
as long as people only own one a$$ they can only run one pwc at a time.
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CAT BOAT
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 10:42:04 AM
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Yea, we can make it run fast, but the problem will be getting it to float with a blown 540 inch motor under the seat.
I have also read, and heard of PWC restrictions coming before the senate next session. The entire boating community should not have been devided into the groups as we are now. Held together, we would be strong enough to fight legislation, and have input on better written boating laws that would be more suitable for all of us. Just look at the one we are faced with now! It really does'nt accomplish much, but opens the door for more amendments and additions that are for sure coming. Rest assured, more limits and restrictions will be placed now that we have been divided into small groups. "An enemy divided is easily conquerd"..... Remember that. That being said, solicit the support of the big boat owners, and powerboat owners in the event restrictions try to get sent down to PWC's. I don't think we got support from that segment, but we will support yours! The entire boating community should have seen this coming, but those not effected really breathed a sigh of relief, and remained silent. Yall don't bash me on this post, but this is the way I see it.
Steve
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PikeSki
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 10:57:23 AM
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Cat, I think if we put some happy birthday helium balloons from the piggly in the fore and aft storage compartments it might just float with a 540. What do you think?
I believe your correct in that this is just the beginning of many more regs forced on everyone. Those who weren't affected by this round shouldn't sit back and wipe their forehead just yet. Their restrictions are probably right around the corner.
I am not a big boat owner but did voice my opinion to the powers that be. I personally don't like what they did and made sure that my humble opinion was heard.
I'm off to the wiggly!
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LIVIN LOUD
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Sen. Dial said
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4/11/2006 11:53:52 AM
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last wednesday on the senate floor--- an amendment came up to his bill to include PWC- Dial stated that he thought it was a good idea, but there was not enough time to include them on this bill--- that if the Senator would drop that amendment -- that he would come back next year and co-sponsor an amendment to include PWC (operate PWC only between 10am 6-pm).
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Feb
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 11:57:20 AM
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I think Pikeski his answer will be yes since you prefer blondes. He will simply put a decible point after the first digit.
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CAT BOAT
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Sen. Dial said
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4/11/2006 11:58:57 AM
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It was actually, NO PWC operation between 10am and 6pm. And, yes it was proposed as an amendment.
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WSMS
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Huh?
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4/11/2006 12:23:44 PM
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"NO PWC operation between 10:00 Am and 6:00 PM?" I think you need to double-check that, since that would limit PWC operation to the periods of sun-up to 10:00 AM, and 6:00 PM to sundown.
I remember reading the proposed amendment, and I'm sure it limited PWC operation to the hours BETWEEN 10 and 6 (it might even have been between 8 and 6), not restricted it FROM those hours.
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Osms
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 1:02:03 PM
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CAT, good post for youir side--BUT--surely you all have to know that all the talk of higher speeds, ways around the law, etc., are just adding to the changes of the law in the future. Until the anti-law group accepts responsibility for bringing this law upon themselves, there won't be a chance in h&ll of getting listened to by the legislators. I don't believe I've seen one post that acknowledges any acceptance of responsibility--everyone blames greed, crooked politicians, old retired people--anyone but themselves. The first step to healing is to take responsibility for your own actions.
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Maverick
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Limit Bass Boats as Well
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4/11/2006 1:04:45 PM
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While the AL Legislation is at it lets propose a limit on the hour of opertaions of bass boat - no bass boats allowed between the hours of 10PM and 8AM, so I can get some sleep.
They troll up to your pier and then when they are ready to leave they crank up their massive engines and SCREAM back out into the dark.
Oh that is right, I live on the lake so I guess I just have to tolerate this, which I do. As I do not own the lake, as others think they do. I own property around the lake and what a beautiful lake it is.
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LIVIN LOUD
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Osms
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4/11/2006 1:06:51 PM
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Why don't you know anyone on this forum?
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CAT BOAT
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 1:09:54 PM
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O.K. .... nevermind OSMS
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WSMS
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I looked it up for you
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4/11/2006 1:41:14 PM
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(2) Beginning three months after the effective date
of this section, the use or operation of personal watercraft
commonly referred to as jet skis, shall be prohibited prior to
the hour of 9:00 AM and after the hour of 6:00 PM of the
appropriate time zone of the respective lakes.
PROHIBITED prior to 9:00 AM, and PROHIBITED after 6:00 PM; that means PWC operation is ALLOWED between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM. And that really only prohibits their operation for a few hours early and late, since most of them aren't equipped for night operation anyway. (But IF this passes-- and I have my doubts-- I wouldn't be surprised to see an hour shaved from the AM side, and added to the PM side; 8:00 AM to 7:00 PM sounds more reasonable.)
URL: SaveLakeMartin
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| Name: |
WSMS
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 1:44:30 PM
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What? Take responsibility? Surely you've come to realize that that isn't going to happen, not when even the reasonable "big boaters" won't do it. (And yes, I have seen many posts by several posters that I would consider "reasonable," ... and then someone else usualy follows with what has become a more typical post, and I have to revise my thinking. The old saying "You are judged by the company you keep" is one that some people should give more consideration.)
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BamaBob3
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 2:57:23 PM
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If they limited licensing of PWC's to 2 per person, I believe we have enough family to be able to license about 20 or so.
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JohnGalt
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Limit on # PWCs?
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4/11/2006 5:43:16 PM
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What is this group supposed to apologize for? Having a big boat that goes fast. Having a big boat that was legal on this lake to begin with? Having a common intrest and getting together to enjoy their afternoon at the lake? Producing too big a wake? If they haven't broken a law then what is there to say I'm sorry about. I have yet to see any shred of evidence from the pro-bureaucratic side that would make me believe that it was anything other than pandering to a developer and bringing home the bacon. Give me some facts to make me believe that this lake is safer by banning these boats.
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Osms
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 5:58:53 PM
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If you wrote in response to my post--I never said a word about an apology, I said the anti-law group should accept responsibility for the NEED for the law. Someone please explain why the crooked legislators, etc. had to pass the law to start with--just maybe the actions of boaters required the law.
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JohnGalt
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 6:22:30 PM
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You are correct you said responsibility. There...I too responsibility and corrected it. I will rephrase my question, How can this group "accept responsibility for bringing the law on themselves" when they don't believe they brought the law on themselves. I certainly don't think they did from what I have read from these posts and articles. Again I think this was a clear case of pandering to politicians and bringing home the bacon. Now please answer my question. How are the lakes safer with these boats banned since I have seen no statistics to lead me to believe they are a threat? Thanks
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Osms
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 7:56:59 PM
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One question. Why did the politicians and developers feel there was a need for this law? Where is the money in it for them, since the anti'law group keeps saying there's greed and money--please explain where their gain could be...
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CAT BOAT
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To Johngalt..... please read..
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4/11/2006 8:47:57 PM
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John, someone told me this... "never argue with an idiot, because watching bystanders can't tell who is who". Just do what I do. Post, .. "nevermind", and continue on. You can't argue with this guy. And, by the way, you gonna be on the lake this weekend? Some of us are planning a trip to play and ride just as you say we do. Please, join us.
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LIVIN LOUD
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Osms
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4/11/2006 9:00:18 PM
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The developers concern was/is : HOUSEBOATS --like the thousands on Lake Lanier---nobody wants the pontoon trailers that are on Lake Lanier--
The lake in Ga. that this "Resort" was developed---has NO SPEED LIMITATIONS--- only 30' 6" ---- the lake is about 40% the size of Martin
The "CIGARS" are what the power of the POWER COMPANY wants eliminated--- why? NO ONE has never been injured by a "CIGAR" boat on Lake Martin---- NEVER
Can that be said about your type of Boat? OSMS?
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JohnGalt
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To Johngalt..... please read..
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4/11/2006 9:07:17 PM
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Thanks for the advice and I will take you up on the offer just not this weekend. Opening day of baseball for my youngest. We are down almost every weekend during the summer. I will look forward to meeting y'all.
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JohnGalt
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 9:14:09 PM
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That didn't answer my question.
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LIVIN LOUD
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 9:25:00 PM
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the reply was to Osms question to your question
He is albout "his" FACTS
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JohnGalt
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 9:55:35 PM
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sorry again I will take responsibility for my mistake
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JohnGalt
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Answer to John Galt
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4/11/2006 9:57:35 PM
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hope this is the right thread: You didn't answer my question.
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Osms
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reply to Livin Loud
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4/11/2006 10:17:01 PM
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Your post is probably pretty 'factual'. Npt sure about APCO and fast boats, or maybe they had just had so many complaints from residents and or the Marine Police. Or as Cat has coined the jewel..."nevermind". And he used a new word-"idiot".
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LIVIN LOUD
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reply to Livin Loud
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4/11/2006 10:49:43 PM
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Please --- read your post ---I got kinda confuse in want u were trying to say-- I'm slow I was born in Eclectic--- grad. from ECHS-- won State Champs in football & track n '76 won 2nd from first in basball 76 &77
lost 32 basketball games in a row--- maybe a state record---
Now --OSMS --- What were you trying to say?
Sorry ,
Alle Plott
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longtimer
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osms, take CAT's advice
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4/12/2006 1:00:55 AM
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"never argue with an idiot."
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longtimer
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Wow
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4/12/2006 1:03:20 AM
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You have a lot of gall, calling someone else's post confusing!
"Please --- read your post ---I got kinda confuse in want u were trying to say-- I'm slow I was born in Eclectic--- grad. from ECHS-- won State Champs in football & track n '76 won 2nd from first in basball 76 &77
lost 32 basketball games in a row--- maybe a state record---
Now --OSMS --- What were you trying to say?
Sorry ,
Alle Plott"
You could close your eyes and hit random keys, and still come up with something that makes more sense than that jumbled mess!
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longtimer
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Hmmm... no response.
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4/12/2006 1:26:11 AM
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How surprising.
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Osms
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reply to Livin Loud 2
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4/12/2006 8:10:50 AM
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Sorry, thought you may have read all the other posts on this thread--read CATBOAT's post at 8:47 just above your post that I replied to.
I said your post at 9:00 was pretty factual about houseboats. But I'm not sure that Ala. Power (APCO) was behind the fast boat ban, unless they had received a lot of compaints--which is possible.
Sorry about your basketball team--hey, this is the thirty year renunion year.
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LIVIN LOUD
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I concur longtimer
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4/12/2006 9:21:38 AM
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Not only was it confusing--- it was useless
A few old FACTS --- that mean nothing-- but they were for Osms he's all about FACTS
the '"idiot" reference -- I deserved
Just a local fellow that enjoys all types of boating,
Allen
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