Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Torture
Date:	12/11/2014 9:52:56 AM

You know what torture is to me? Can I tell you what torture is to me? Torture to me is not all this waterboarding stuff. You know what torture is? Torture is trying to go to sleep every night with pictures in your head that your wife, your husband, your son, your daughter jumped from a top floor at the World Trade Center to his or her death rather than burn alive. That's torture.

You know what's torture to me?

Torture to me is being a family member of somebody who died in 9/11, either in the Twin Towers, the field in Pennsylvania, or the Pentagon. It's trying to go to bed every night thinking about what they experienced at that moment when the planes hit the towers. Torture, to me, is what you go through each and every day trying to go to sleep as you think about the last moments of the lives of your loved ones or family members on 9/11.

Torture is being a family member of an American beheaded on television by Al-Qaeda or ISIS or you name it -- Islamic jihadists -- and wondering what was going through their mind at that moment. Torture is then having that be the first thing on my mind when I wake up every day. That's torture. And it's every day. And it is every night. Torture is being the family member of a first responder on 9/11 as they gallantly, valiantly, courageously walked and ran into those Twin Towers looking for survivors, hoping to drag people out -- and they never came out.

Torture every day is wondering what they went through.

- excerpts from Rush Limbaugh show 12/10/14

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	Moral Superiority
Date:	12/11/2014 9:54:26 PM

I am MORALLY SUPERIOR 

…until it comes down to a choice between protecting my family versus the Geneva Conventions.

Imagine watching the defiling, rape, torture, and killing of your wife and daughter… and, realizing that… because of your moral superiority… you deferred… so to permit the horrific tactics of your enemy in the desecration and destruction of you family.  Small comfort such hubris.  

Ponder this conundrum:  That heroes commit sins (sacrifice their souls) to insure our safety… for duty to those whom they do not know.  I will trade their place in hell for my family’s safety. 

AND consider that this illustrious committee that investigated EIT… DID NOT INTERVIEW ONE SINGLE INTERROGATOR! 

I believe we owe Sen Feinstein a ONE WAY ticket to Syria.

- - LMF Curmudgeon

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	Torture
Date:	12/11/2014 9:56:43 PM

I hope that we have an agency… activity… within our CIA or SOC or NSA… that conducts operations in the way of the Mossad.   If we don’t have such… I hope that we are BUYING the service.  I don’t want to know.  I don’t want the press to know.  I don’t want anyone to know. I want their actions to be deniable.  If they be drenched in blood… the blood of terrorists... Let them sleep.  Give them respite from the sheer numbers of slain enemies. Grant them the lesson of Tarleton’s Quarters.

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Drones… let us give the enemy drones.  They fear them the most.  Drones do not honor martyrdom.  Drones come in the night… or the glare of daylight…. without warning. Drones do not “count coup.”  Drones merely terminate a condition. One minute one is planning despicable horrors in the name of Allah… the next nanosecond… one is not.  Next… one is learning that there are no virgins… for there are not enough of them who have sinned enough to serve your sexual pleasures in hell.

- - LMF Curnudgeon

Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	I Don't Care
Date:	12/12/2014 10:47:05 AM

    Islam is the path to the 10th Century. It is even worse than Communism, if that is possible. Our troops are defending us against these savages. If we need information from one of these goat....s to save the lives of just one American then I really don't care how we get it! They are not uniformed combatants as the Geneieva Convention requires. They are only due the same treatment that they dish out to others. Dig a hole and do what old Black Jack did.