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ChrisCraft
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Bright side
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5/8/2007 2:51:22 AM
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Look....adults accept what they cannot change. The water's low....we can't "make" rain so there are bright sides. Sunday was wonderful and somewhat quiet....unusual for the lake. The water's low...so put in the jon-boat or canoe....when was the last time you did that? Change comes with pain...deal with it like an adult or be miserable. besides, we can walk the shore and swim too!
BTW...there's no sign of the situation changing in the near future....just try to keep your lawns healthy. Anyone recommend a lawn doctor? My centipede is suffering from a variety of issues and would love a specialist to help me before I'm forced to re-sod!
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Kingfish
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Bright side
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5/8/2007 7:23:16 AM
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I have centipede in my roadside and myer's zoysia on the lake side. We have had the centipede for about 8 years and the zoysia for almost two years. We have used Chemlawn out of Auburn for about 4 years. They have done a great job for us with treatments about six times a year, including for fire ants which were quite a problem. I have had yards for many many years and still don't know squat about when to fertilize and with what! I think the best thing we have done, other than Chemlawn is putting in a sprinkler system. The person we have dealt with is a guy named Jake. The company has been very reasonable in price. I don't have the number but I am sure it is in the yellow pages. I am not trying to sell Chemlawn but maybe this might help.
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Maverick
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Use ChemLawn as Well
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5/8/2007 1:08:39 PM
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Call Chris, he is the manager., I think Very nice guy.
You select the level of service you need. That is you do not have to pay for the fire ant application, etc if you do not need or want it. So they are very flexible on providing diff levels of service.
If you do not have a sprinkler system and are not there full time to water as needed, I would strongly recommend putting one in.
TruGreen - Branch # 9787
2906 Waverly Parkway
Opelika, AL 36801
Phone: (334) 749-5037
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| Name: |
ChrisCraft
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Use ChemLawn as Well
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5/9/2007 2:21:12 AM
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Thanks to all.....Chemlawn sounds like what we're looking for.
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roswellric
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One other point
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5/9/2007 8:56:10 AM
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Kingfish made and is important. I have little experience with centipede but I learned one thing; it has to be irrigated. I'd spend the money on irrigation before I did anything else.
If you can follow the directions on the bag you can handle the fertilizer which incidently is very low for Centipede. In fact you can kill it with too much phosporus ( the P in the N-P-K on the bag. If you want to kill centipede just hose it down with Miracle Grow. Instant P!
I think I am going to try the Zosia..the patch I have sure looks better that my Centipede.
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roswellric
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One question
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5/9/2007 8:58:50 AM
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I went to the concert Sunday... the grass there looks beautiful. The best I have seen. Looks like some kind of fescue and is obviously irrigated. Anyone know what it is and who takes care of it ?
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Osms
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Centipede
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5/9/2007 9:39:16 AM
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Things I've learned about centipede.
-It doesn't start looking good until June. Starts late, which lets the weeds get a head start.
-It's natural color is a yellowish green, not a dark green like fescue. That makes you want to fertilize it too much--which kills it.
-It loves abuse. I mowed the front of a vacant lot next door for years and watched the centipede flourish without irrigation or fertilizer while my sodded yard that was irrigated and fertilized regularly got weaker and weaker.
I've got Myer's Zoysia here at the lake--needs full sun, water, and fertilizer.
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will maintain a lush green color if properly maintained, but I agree it does not look it's best until June. Although draught tolerant, it needs a fair amount of water to look good and develop a thick mat. Also, it should be fertilized at least 2 times a year but ONLY with a special centipede fertilizer. Iron is the key to a deep green color (I apply it monthly).
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PC Al
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Centipede Fertilizer
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5/9/2007 5:40:30 PM
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I have centipede and it looks great now. But, I do irrigate from the lake, so watering is no problem. Another poster mentioned the phosphorus and I think that is the key. I buy Vigoro fertilizer from Home Depot and I believe the numbers are 17-0-17. In other words, no phosphate and designed especially for centipede. Says so on the bag. Works for me.
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you have the secret....I think that brand already has Iron added, but more iron is also good. Some folks also make the mistake of putting lime on Centipede, and that is a bad thing to do.
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Osms
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OK, jlazc & Pc al,
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5/9/2007 7:52:59 PM
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YOU TURKEYS, you proved I don't know how to care for Centipede grass--I had another problem--when it does try to grow, Mole Crickets feast on the roots--what now?
Before I screw up the Meyer's Zoysia, someone tell me how to make it look great...
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Maverick
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ChemLawn - LOIL
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5/9/2007 8:17:54 PM
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Maverick
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Centipede - Soil Sample
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5/9/2007 8:36:44 PM
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While I agree with Jlazc with regards to the 17-0-17.
I went one step further and mailed two soil samples to Auburn (from both sides of my yard) and on the outside of the box marked the crop as Centipede. After planting my lawn last May, was not doing as well as I was excepting, as I do have an irrigation system and was fertilizing every 2 months or so with 17-0-17 after the lawn became established.
Guess what, Auburn soil sample report stated I need to apply 19-19-19 fertilizer and lime to Centipede to balance the soil acidity, phosphate, nitrogen etc to optimal growing conditions. Called them and asked if they were sure as I had Centipede and they said yes. Was told to apply approx 4 bags of 19-19-19 and 45 bags (over a ton) of lime to the centipede (approx 3/4 of an acre of grass) in two different applications spaced about 4 to 6 months apart. Did the first application in September of last year and the 2nd application in March 2007, centipede is GREEN and growing like a weed this year thus far.
Now time to take another soil sample and send to Auburn to see what else is needed, if anything. Long story short if the soil under the grass is not properly balanced grass will not grow to its optimal level.
Most Feed and Seed stores should have the Soil Sample Test kits or you could probably just contact the local extension office or Auburn directly to obtain a soil sample test kit.
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Ulysses E. McGill
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Well, I stand corrected
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5/9/2007 10:08:55 PM
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Although I think it is rare, I'm sure it is possible for the ground to be too acidic as it was in your case..... Was it a new lawn?
Osms brought up another good point that I meant to mention.....bugs! Great looking centipede usually needs to be treated for small critters at least once a year.
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Ulysses E. McGill
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Well, I stand corrected
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5/9/2007 10:18:41 PM
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I read your post again and answered my own question about a new lawn. That makes sense.
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PC Al
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Well, I stand corrected
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5/9/2007 10:21:38 PM
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And hopefully the bug treatment with help with grubs and consequently, the ole nemesis, Armadillo.
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roswellric
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Lime?
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5/9/2007 10:38:44 PM
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Well there are different kinds of lime. What you want in this area is called a "hi cal" lime that is mostly calcium carbonate. You can get this at Floyds in Dadeville if Miss Faye has any left.
The cotton days in this area of AL has lef t the soil very high in magnesium. If your magnesium is too high then you will burn up most plants. Don't add lime that is too high in magnesium carbonate.
Calcium is essential to proper plant nutrition. Your county agent won't tell you this because he has been trained by the fertilizer interests that want you to do the NPK routine.
URL: If you want to know more..
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| Name: |
Maverick
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Yes - To New Lawn
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5/9/2007 10:44:35 PM
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Had to bring in approx. 900 yards of top soil to level at the yard prior to laying new sod last year.
Just remember lawn service equals:
Fertilizer
Weed Control
Lil critter killer
Disease issues
etc
OH YEA forgot the most important part - A lot more time to enjoy the lake !!!!
This is actually the primary reason I decided to hire the lawn service.
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| Name: |
Osms
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Lordy, Lordy, Mav...
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5/9/2007 10:52:38 PM
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you could of just used lime instead of the all that top soil to level your yard-- the top soil's what caused your acid problem to start with. Now that you've got at least as much as a new pontoon boat invested in your yard you HAD to hire a lawn service--just to guard the grass. LOL
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Maverick
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Yea but You Ought to See......
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5/9/2007 10:58:13 PM
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the lawn - LOL
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| Name: |
Kingfish
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Yea but You Ought to See......
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5/10/2007 7:15:11 AM
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I agree with Maverick...you ought to see my lawn! As a lot of you that have posted I do love to work in the yard but I am limited as to time and knowledge of when to do what. A couple of things to consider is how much are you spending to keep up with the problems and how valuable is your time as opposed to the cost of a lawn service that has a program to fit your needs at a reasonable price and all you have to do is keep it cut. Plus I like to ride my pontoon sometimes.
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