Name:	RadioActive -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/4/2021 3:52:36 PM

Another night without power from about 10:30 PM to 2 AM.  Second time this week.  The first time was understandable because of the storm, but last night, not a cloud on the RADAR.  

Must be time to by a Generac.  I'm getting tired of living in a third-world country.....

Radioactive...

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/4/2021 4:11:45 PM

Get ready .  They are on back order

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Another month without power
Date:	8/4/2021 5:50:20 PM (updated 8/4/2021 5:50:37 PM)

Just be glad they came back on.  73.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-06-18-china-preparing-to-kill-us-population-with-emp-pearl-harbor-first-strike.html

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 8:55:43 AM

Good luck with Generac as you will still need to have a fuel source and without natural gas service it is a true pain.  If your backup generator burns gas you'll need a lot on hand to keep it going.  I wonder if they can run on propane and you can get a large residential tank installed?

I have a dual fuel portable generator but it will burn a grill size tank of propane or a tank full of gasoline in short order.  I've been considering getting a residential propane tank installed at my house but they are pretty expensive.  Also, you need to spend around $1K to set up your electrical system to run on the backup generator, otherwise it is stringing extension cords all over the place which is a pain and very inefficient way to move electricity.  No easy solution.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 8:55:44 AM

Good luck with Generac as you will still need to have a fuel source and without natural gas service it is a true pain.  If your backup generator burns gas you'll need a lot on hand to keep it going.  I wonder if they can run on propane and you can get a large residential tank installed?

I have a dual fuel portable generator but it will burn a grill size tank of propane or a tank full of gasoline in short order.  I've been considering getting a residential propane tank installed at my house but they are pretty expensive.  Also, you need to spend around $1K to set up your electrical system to run on the backup generator, otherwise it is stringing extension cords all over the place which is a pain and very inefficient way to move electricity.  No easy solution.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 1:12:39 PM

No need to buy one when you can rent one for about $50 bucks a year, but they expect you to buys gas also.  If you want one just for backup just look for a used one. The gas company will inspect it before filling it and most likely charge you for a leak test at least.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 1:22:05 PM

Who is the best service provider for this?  I was thinking about replacing my electric stove with propane but would need a tank.  Would also hook up my gas grill to it and have a way to hook up the generator if I need it.

Name:	Little Talisi -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 2:39:01 PM (updated 8/5/2021 2:40:51 PM)

We looked and thought about a generac for years before buying. If you are serious start now looking for a used propane tank. I found one for $100 delivered. Had it for over two years before finally getting the generator. If you have a tank allready that supplies other appliances it is still better to have a second tank for the generator. It uses a different size line. If you have a old electrical  box you probably will need to have a new one put in. The new box if needed, a transfer box, and the generator will be done by whoever you decide to go with. The setup , filling and funning of any gas line is handeld by whoever you buy your propane from. After having it installed in May 0f 2020 we have had at least a dozen outages ranging from 30 minutes to 38 hours. We also purchased a couple of uniteruptible power supplis from Amazon so that in the few seconds of no power the TV, dish, modem and router do not go out. The system test itself every two weeks for any problems and you can get a app for your phone to be notified of all tests and power outages since there generators all are connected to your wifi.  We used C & T Electric from Alexander City for the generator and Apex Gas out of Tallassee location for propane. We also have a gas stove, fire logs and tankless hot water system.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Another night without power
Date:	8/5/2021 3:55:13 PM

Had a propane generation installed when we built the house and use propane to cook with.  Buried tank.  We've used our generator a lot of times, since it seems like everytime it rains or storms the power goes off.  Longest time running the generator was 3 days.  We had the propane tank filled when it was installed, and they top it off every other year or so, so not much propane gets used  I don't know the size of the tank that was installed.  

The bigger issue of the generator is having it serviced on a regular basis, or if it runs for a long period of time - I believe that the service guy told me, it needs to be serviced every 60 hours of run time.  We've had to replace it's battery twice in 13 years.  

I know it was $5000 for the generator itself, when we bought it and to fill the tank completely the first time was about $1200.  But living out here, I am so glad we made the investment.   

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Another month without power
Date:	8/9/2021 6:46:48 PM

Replies like this are CRAP. Say something in your own words or pass.

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Another month without power
Date:	8/9/2021 7:13:07 PM

Why?

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Another month without power
Date:	8/9/2021 7:26:54 PM (updated 8/9/2021 7:29:46 PM)

I agree.  Just posting a link is about all Shorty does.  And I RARELY bother to open one of them.  In this case there is no need.  High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) has been around for decades and fotunately to this point it hasn't been used.  The problem is that it is the ultimate non-discriminator, and using it in anger would send thousands or even millions of people to their eventual grave.  If the Chinese were to deploy a HEMP shot, they, being sheltered by the earth itself - in fact most if not all of Asia - would come out relatively unscathed.  The rest of us would be without anything electric or electronic because the pulse woud literally fry it all.  No automobiles, airplanes. computers, hospitals, internet, and so on, except for the few who prepred by putting some stuff into a Faraday Cage before the pulse hit.  A Faraday cage can be as simple as wrapping something tightly in aluminum foil...but very quickly the size limitations of such a method would limit a person to small electronics.  You could put a generator in one, although it would be very difficult to properly seal it, given the size and weight of the generator itself.  I could go on and on but won't.  The simple fact is that, even if Shorty is right, there is little we as a society are willing to do to prepare for such a calamity, and if it happens, the great majority of us will likely die a slow and painful death, of starvation, untreated illness, or exposure to the elements.  Not a pretty thought but the capability is there.

On the other hand, a nation like China knows that we know all about HEMP and I am sure we have taken measures to ensure if they were to resort to such a measure, we would respond in kind and the only survivors might be those in the jungles who live now with no electricity...and maybe the Amish?  The North Koreans and Iranians might be another story, although they are not dumb and know a HEMP first strike would mean retaliation and sure devastation to their societies as well.