Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/5/2015 1:37:49 PM

Because all the bluest of states keep losing population to those dreaded red states.  Sort of like all the silly arguments made by left wing nuts about the education and health care in their socialist wet dream country of Cuba......which of course begs the question as to why Americans in droves aren't risking their lives in rickety boats to get to Cuba.  

Interesting little factoid, blue states have lost around 10 electoral college votes just in the last census alone.  NY has dropped from 45 House seats in 1960 down to 27 today and dropping like a rock.  As for me I would prefer that they stay where they are so they don't carry the disease to other states.  But once they make their own inhabitable they migrate and screw up other perfectly good places to live.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/5/2015 5:29:46 PM

I suspect the migration to the Red states has less to do with politics and everything to do with retirement. lower housing costs, lower property taxes and better weather. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/5/2015 5:44:38 PM

Oh I agree with you but other than the weather one has to ask the question as to why those other attributes do not exist in states long controlled by leftists.  Well I don't actually have to ask because I know the answer.  But as we will see in some of these states as they adopt some of the ruinous economic policies, the best weather in the world won't save you.  Just ask the droves escaping California.  It has the weather and natural beauty but is a lousy place to live economically.

Interestingly, as pointed out in the article, what really drives the ruinous policies is the urban areas.  Even in states like Washington, Oregon and California the areas east of the mountain range are much more conservative than the urban areas along the coast.  High taxes, regulations on building and other detrimental policies make these cities unaffordable and miserable to live in and cause the mass migration.  Sadly for too many of these failed states, you can't get far enough away by moving out of the city and have to leave for friendlier and more affordable states.  These are almost all, if not all, red states.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/5/2015 6:20:51 PM

But, gay marriage is coming to the red states. You won't have anyplace to retire. 

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	Uh GF ?
Date:	1/5/2015 7:16:07 PM

non sequitur

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Uh GF ?
Date:	1/5/2015 7:24:41 PM

Hey, my favorite drive by. Happy New Year Maj.

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	What use?
Date:	1/5/2015 11:41:07 PM (updated 1/5/2015 11:43:25 PM)

If one has nothing to say

…if one has nothing to add,

Should one feel compelled to interject?

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Perhaps the argument is going as it should.

Must I jump in and demand my position… my say?

No… it is going as it should

…and there is NO need of my participation.

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The first law of thermodynamics: “Energy is neither created nor destroyed.”

IF I inject invective…

will the argument be improved?

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Therefore, I reserve comment

…unless my argument be useful.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	What use?
Date:	1/6/2015 11:53:05 AM

I have always respected you for your innate ability to sense when to just shut up. I wonder if it is a learned or genetic trait? 

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	What use?
Date:	1/6/2015 12:45:03 PM

learned... as a PVT E1

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	What use?
Date:	1/6/2015 1:00:57 PM

Did you receive a direct commission or go to OCS?

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	What use?
Date:	1/6/2015 1:19:32 PM

Direct... The only of such in the Army Corps of Engineers in 1980.  Oath taken at the Pentagon with my father present.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/6/2015 3:59:47 PM

Having lived in 2 high cost areas (NJ and Northern VA), one of the drivers is high paying jobs. High paying jobs means the demand for housing is greater and more services are offered. Property taxes are higher, in part, due to those available services.  I doubt it has much to do with regulation. Companies go where there is a skilled, educated workforce.  I've lived in counties and states run by democrats and republicans and havn't noticed much difference. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/6/2015 8:25:39 PM

Try running a small business and I can assure you that you will notice the difference in terms of taxes, regulations, etc.  There is a reason California has one of the highest worker comp costs in the country. Just curious why if there is no difference you chose to retire to a red state. I am betting cost of living, taxes, etc. were part of the equation for you and a main driver for a great many retirees. I'm sorry, but it is pretty obvious that people and businesses are leaving high tax states and going to red states. The numbers speak for themselves. 

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	It must be better to live in red states
Date:	1/6/2015 9:16:00 PM

I wanted to stay in Northern VA.  The reason I moved here was that it was a long term plan to live on a lake.  I like the fact that the cost of living and the property taxes are less.  I miss some of the services.  But I don't miss the snow and freezing temps. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	All good reasons
Date:	1/7/2015 5:02:08 PM

But the cost of living was a factor and when you look at the cost of all those services more people by far decide they are not worth it and move.  Hence the population shift.  But as we have seen elsewhere it will not take long for a state to lost its luster and it always starts in the cities.