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Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/11/2013 6:30:54 PM (updated 4/11/2013 6:50:05 PM)

shows an unexpectedly large drop of 42,000 (11%) in new unemployment insurance filings, yet not one word from the usual Obama blamers on our friendly little forum. Does anybody think MM and WW among others could have been struck dumb if the report had shown a 42,000 increase? I mean really...think about it for a change...what is the real agenda of our Tea Party brethren? Are they trying to save America or destroy the man we the people elected president? I ask again, where was your forum posts of outrage in late 2008 when a man with an R after his name sat in the Oval Office, unemployment insurance claims were consistently over 800,000 / week and net job growth ran at negative 800,000 / month for month after month?

Now, go ahead ignore the question by changing the subject to the Atlanta School scandal, or how Obama always blames Bush, or how Obama is going to take your guns, etc etc ad nauseum . I don't really expect an answer...to quote MM "you are always predictable".

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Archy,
Date:	4/11/2013 8:45:57 PM

I honestly do not remember the results last week. Wasn't there a huge unexpected increase last week. Is California up to their old tricks?

Name:	buzzbuster -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/11/2013 9:24:04 PM

Yawn

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/11/2013 9:56:24 PM

Leave it to Archy to find a solitary petunia in a giant cesspool.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	You are so predictable
Date:	4/11/2013 10:30:14 PM (updated 4/11/2013 10:35:39 PM)

Nothing much to say when the news is bad but glad to show up with a glimmer of positive news. Tell me Archie, how does a drop in new claims help the 600,000 last month that gave up ever finding a jobl?!?!?!? Why dont you answer that question, huh???? How does it help matters when 350,000 people lose their job while 90,000 newjobs are created!??!?!? Are you so incapable of critical thought that simple math is too much for you to absorb and comprehend? Here we go folks.....the good news in the war is that last month 380,000 soldiers were killed but only 350,000 were killed this month. Time to celebrate!!!! Woooooohhooooooooo!!!!!!! Life is good and it's time to pop the champagne corks!!!! And none of that negativity about 350,000 soldiers being killed.......that's 30,000 less than last month. You guys and your cup being half full..... Honestly Archie, can't you see how pathetic those numbers are four years into a so-called recovery?!?!? I know.....it's too early to tell........the affirmative action president needs more time cause he's just a black man and we can't expect so much out of him. No wonder he doesn't think any of us built what we have.........that's been his life experience and you guilty while liberals are the primary enablers of his pathos. Crowing about numbers that are terrible, but somehow better than projected, is likewise pathetic. Get with reality Archie, we are supposed to be in a recovery!!!!!! We are not in a recession. This isn't that mentally challenging but for some reason you don't seem to know the difference.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Mr H
Date:	4/12/2013 7:28:40 AM (updated 4/12/2013 7:33:53 AM)

Some us are still able to admire a flower wherever it grows...obviously, a lot of us aren't and had rather rush to give it a verbal shot of herbicide.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	You are so predictable
Date:	4/12/2013 7:29:37 AM (updated 4/12/2013 7:33:06 AM)

DITTO!!! Now, did you notice there was a question in my original comment? Did you notice there is a question in this comment?

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Archie and GF
Date:	4/12/2013 8:59:58 AM

Both have the same approach to debate.....never answer a question from others that might diminish their point, but demand answers to any and all questions they pose. A wee bit hypocritical.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Mr H
Date:	4/12/2013 9:03:03 AM

And there was probably an air pocket or two in the Titanic when it went down.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Did you read your own post?
Date:	4/12/2013 9:09:38 AM

There were multiple questions. Archie, my point is that you are inanely fixated on a drop in claims as if the actual number of claims is meaningless. The reason we don't post about an unexpected drop is because each and every month, month in and month out, year after year, the number is "unexpected" and different than what the so-called "experts" expected. That to me gets a little old and a little redundant and hardly worthy of comment. It would be like the weatherman expected a high of 35 degrees but it was 25 degrees. You would focus on the fact that it was 10 degrees colder than the expert expected. My focus would be on the fact that it was below freezing and the roads might be icy.

The cold, hard reality which you cannot seen to grasp is that whether it has gone down or up 42,000, the number of jobless claims is pathetically high, especially since we are supposed to be four years into a recovery. And I have already answered your comment about the job losses during the recession on two occasions. I won't repeat myself. Your willingness to compare Obama's economic performance in a recovery to the results during a recession is yet another example of lower standards for the affirmative action president by a guilty while liberal suffering from the soft bigotry of low expectations for the black guy. As for me, I hold him to the standard of performance of other presidents during an economic recovery and using that criteria he is an abject, miserable failure. But then again, I could care less about the color of his skin and hold him to the same standards as his predecessors.

Why don't you? Why are you afraid to answer that question? I've answered yours multiple times........the truth is too painful to acknowledge?????

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	LOL!
Date:	4/12/2013 9:16:26 AM

Now that was a great retort. I can assure you Archie would have been rearranging the deck chairs and enjoying the band as the Titanic went down. And if Obama were the captain he would certainly not hold him to account for running into the iceberg.....in fact, he would blame Bush for that iceberg.........he would say, "Did you notice that iceberg was 20% smaller than the other icebergs around it?" Or maybe, "That iceberg was not where experts expected it to be which is really the issue here." What he thinks is important and good news is amazing in the midst of this so-called recovery.

Totally mystifying to me and Archie refuses to answer why he has such low standards of performance for our first black President. I have my suspicions but I welcome his explanation........

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Its even worse than that
Date:	4/12/2013 9:26:59 AM

Even if you answer the question they pretend as if you didn't because they don't like or can't really respond to the answer.

Name:	Council Roc Doc -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/12/2013 10:38:47 AM

Archie, be intellectually honest. If you look at the following data, unemploymnent insurance filings, sure for the week of April 6, it went down. But that was only a one time correction for the increase of 47K the previous two weeks. If you can look at the following data and be excited for the one time improvement , be my quest. The difference from a year ago is a paltry 22k. How can you rejoice in this?

Data for this Date Range
April 6, 2013	346.00K
March 30, 2013	388.00K
March 23, 2013	357.00K
March 16, 2013	341.00K
March 9, 2013	334.00K
March 2, 2013	340.00K
Feb. 23, 2013	348.00K
Feb. 16, 2013	366.00K
Feb. 9, 2013	348.00K
Feb. 2, 2013	361.00K
Jan. 26, 2013	374.00K
Jan. 19, 2013	343.00K
Jan. 12, 2013	350.00K
Jan. 5, 2013	373.00K
Dec. 29, 2012	372.00K
Dec. 22, 2012	366.00K
Dec. 15, 2012	366.00K
Dec. 8, 2012	354.00K
Dec. 1, 2012	370.00K
Nov. 24, 2012	390.00K
Nov. 17, 2012	400.00K
Nov. 10, 2012	451.00K
Nov. 3, 2012	363.00K
Oct. 27, 2012	367.00K
Oct. 20, 2012	372.00K


Oct. 13, 2012	384.00K
Oct. 6, 2012	352.00K
Sept. 29, 2012	369.00K
Sept. 22, 2012	363.00K
Sept. 15, 2012	385.00K
Sept. 8, 2012	385.00K
Sept. 1, 2012	367.00K
Aug. 25, 2012	377.00K
Aug. 18, 2012	374.00K
Aug. 11, 2012	369.00K
Aug. 4, 2012	364.00K
July 28, 2012	368.00K
July 21, 2012	357.00K
July 14, 2012	388.00K
July 7, 2012	352.00K
June 30, 2012	376.00K
June 23, 2012	388.00K
June 16, 2012	392.00K
June 9, 2012	389.00K
June 2, 2012	380.00K
May 26, 2012	389.00K
May 19, 2012	373.00K
May 12, 2012	372.00K
May 5, 2012	370.00K
April 28, 2012	368.00K

Name:	Council Roc Doc -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/12/2013 10:53:13 AM

Archie, this is the same data for unemployment insurance filings for all of 2008. Where is the 800,000 again? Don't let the facts get in your way........

Dates: to

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Data for this Date Range
Dec. 27, 2008	524.00K
Dec. 20, 2008	584.00K
Dec. 13, 2008	560.00K
Dec. 6, 2008	563.00K
Nov. 29, 2008	532.00K
Nov. 22, 2008	536.00K
Nov. 15, 2008	542.00K
Nov. 8, 2008	510.00K
Nov. 1, 2008	490.00K
Oct. 25, 2008	481.00K
Oct. 18, 2008	481.00K
Oct. 11, 2008	462.00K
Oct. 4, 2008	481.00K
Sept. 27, 2008	483.00K
Sept. 20, 2008	484.00K
Sept. 13, 2008	454.00K
Sept. 6, 2008	445.00K
Aug. 30, 2008	443.00K
Aug. 23, 2008	424.00K
Aug. 16, 2008	425.00K
Aug. 9, 2008	430.00K
Aug. 2, 2008	447.00K
July 26, 2008	433.00K
July 19, 2008	403.00K
July 12, 2008	386.00K


July 5, 2008	373.00K
June 28, 2008	395.00K
June 21, 2008	386.00K
June 14, 2008	381.00K
June 7, 2008	385.00K
May 31, 2008	365.00K
May 24, 2008	372.00K
May 17, 2008	369.00K
May 10, 2008	366.00K
May 3, 2008	376.00K
April 26, 2008	374.00K
April 19, 2008	352.00K
April 12, 2008	365.00K
April 5, 2008	355.00K
March 29, 2008	382.00K
March 22, 2008	367.00K
March 15, 2008	365.00K
March 8, 2008	347.00K
March 1, 2008	343.00K
Feb. 23, 2008	349.00K
Feb. 16, 2008	339.00K
Feb. 9, 2008	341.00K
Feb. 2, 2008	351.00K
Jan. 26, 2008	368.00K
Jan. 19, 2008	318.00K

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/12/2013 11:46:53 AM

Hey doc it's pointless. He only listens to the voices in his head and the ones on PMSNBC.

"Never try to teach a pig to sing, it waists your time and annoys the pig." LL

Name:	Council Roc Doc -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/12/2013 1:04:35 PM

Essentially, 7 less unemployment insurance filings per county in the lower 48, Alaska and Hawaii than 1 year ago. And this after 5 years in office and unprecedented trillions of national debt and the debt of Obamacare staring at you in the rearview mirrow.....I am clicking my heels Archie.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	But its down and better than expected!!!!
Date:	4/12/2013 1:14:06 PM

That is apparently all that matters to the left. They also struggle with the math that it is not good news when 300K+ people lose their jobs and 100K+/- jobs are created and you need to 175K+ just to keep up with population growth.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Well Mr H
Date:	4/12/2013 1:40:19 PM

Isn't hypocrisy a two way street? If I don't give the answer to your question...I'm a hypocrite. If you don't give an answer my...question I'm a hypocrite. What am I missing here...what are you missing here?

Name:	h_hob -	Reply
Subject:	Today's BLS report
Date:	4/12/2013 4:10:09 PM

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves, picking on Archiebelle, Copperpiece and GFY like that. It is like dueling with unarmed men. In so much as they are intellectually handicapped. Someone accused one of them of having to ride the short bus to school each day. The only thing I can say about that is, "All three of them had to ride the short bus to school."

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Hey Sweetie Hob Knob
Date:	4/12/2013 11:31:55 PM

You know so little and say even less. Sweet dreams cutie pie.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Archie disappears when faced with facts
Date:	4/15/2013 8:03:22 AM (updated 4/15/2013 8:04:59 AM)

Where did you go? You go t your answer so I guess we are not nearly as predictable as you are. You claimed 800K job losses in 2008 and CDR proved you wrong. You claimed happy news and everyone proved you wrong. And suddenly you disappear???? C'mon Archie, you started this thread claiming all sorts of joyful news. A little dose of truth versus fiction and you drive away? You can do better than that! We're waiting................

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	I'm at the beach MM
Date:	4/16/2013 9:20:02 AM (updated 4/16/2013 9:22:52 AM)

and only checked this forum this morning for the first time since Saturday. I have not even read the posts above your last one on April 15. I will do that now and fully expect (LOL) to see your answer in defense of your seeming hypocrisy in holding George W Bush (R) and Barack Obama (D) to different standards on economic matters...at least when it comes to what you have seen fit to post?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	I am happy to compare the two
Date:	4/16/2013 5:04:04 PM

Archie, do you really want to compare the totality of Bush's record against Obama's? I would be happy to do that because you will see how much worse Obama has been. Just one example, Bush generated $5 trillion of new debt in 8 years, Obama is on track to generate $10 trillion and leave us with tens of trillions in long-term entitlement obligations that never existed before. I have already shown you factually what Obama has done to devastate the labor participation rate in four short years versus Bush's mediocrity during his tenure. I could go on and on but for some reason what you want to do is compare the best Obama has done with the worst of Bush's tenure. Not exactly intellectually honest, right?

And by the way, CDR provided actual numbers from 2008 that refuted your 800,000 claim. Any response? It seems to me looking at those numbers in the midst of a recession and comparing to Obama's numbers after four years into a so-called recovery that Obama is looking pretty bad........

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