Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	15,000 Miles.........
Date:	4/7/2020 11:50:44 AM (updated 4/7/2020 11:51:44 AM)

Acting Secretary of the Navy Modly flew 15,000  miles to deliver a pathetic speech to the crew of the USS Roosevelt. After referring to the removed Captain as "too naive or too stupid", he has now retracted the comment. Modly has all the credentials to be confirmed except common sense. Gee, he could have sent his speech via an email attachment to be played over the loudspeaker. Wonder what it cost for his 15,000 trip? I suspect his career as Sec of Navy is over.

From my "go to source for news".....Fox News 

"President Trump on Monday said at a press conference that he might get involved in the public crisis playing out in the Navy after an aircraft carrier commander was ousted after raising the alarm about a coronavirus outbreak on the ship in a leaked letter.

Modly later issued an apology to the Navy and Crozier and said, "Let me be clear, I do not think Captain Brett Cozier is naive nor stupid. I think, and always believed him to be the opposite. We pick our carrier commanding officers with great care. Captain Crozier is smart and passionate."

Modly said he wanted to apologize for any "confusion this choice of words may have caused."

Trump told a press conference that he is good at "settling arguments." Trump said Cozier  should have resisted sending the letter but he did not want to destroy "somebody for having a bad day," the report said."

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Should have followed Hillary's strategy
Date:	4/7/2020 12:02:12 PM

Wait, you mean he flew 15,000 miles to do something stupid when he could have just gone to bed and gotten up the next day to do something stupid?  Hillary could teach him a thing or two for sure.  Then again, if she did the captain would already have committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head twice and then moving his body to some park. 

I would point out that this guy is the acting secretary.  Trump has said who he plans to appoint but he has been a bit distracted lately.....and before then of course we had a phony impeachment.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Should have followed Hillary's strategy
Date:	4/7/2020 12:12:23 PM

You seem to enjoy defending stupid.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Should have followed Hillary's strategy
Date:	4/7/2020 12:25:14 PM

You seem to have a problem understanding basic English.  When did I defend stupid?  I merely pointed out that he could have taken a page out of the Hillary playbook and saved himself a long trip.  What he said was indeed stupid and I doubt he will be the acting SecNavy for much longer because of it.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	15,000 Miles.........
Date:	4/7/2020 12:58:18 PM

once again the IGNORE BUTTON ISNT WORKING

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	GOOF-SWAMP-lover......
Date:	4/7/2020 2:30:48 PM

The biggest problem I see with this whole BS krap is the huge issue here is over a letter probably passed to NYT or Walli Post.  The military issue here is someone in the chain of command sat on his butt and did nothing so the CPT bypassed him and made a stupid (by Navy standards) move and embarrassed his superiors.  The biggest SWAMP on earth is the military, especially the upper levels.  You can never get away with embarrassing your superiors....right or wrong....you just can’t survive.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	bigot WIX
Date:	4/7/2020 2:42:00 PM

Never said the Captain was correct  sending his letter. I assume a quick call to his Superior should have resolved the issue. If not, he could always follow up with a letter. Or, maybe he did handle it through the chain of command and it was ignored.

He did dock in Vietnam and sailors left the ship. And, the Captain is hospitalized with the virus.

Now, reread my post and what do you think of Mobly traveling 15,000 miles to deliver his speech?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Poor FLYYYYYYYYYYYY
Date:	4/7/2020 2:48:02 PM

CAN'T IGNORE ME.........LOLLLLLLLLL    Obviously, I am really controlling you........ Just be a patriot and read different opinions. Living in a vaccum is determental to your mental health. This is the USA dude and Alabama is part of it....too bad you want a closed society with your opinion or the highway. Enjoy your hibernation but Stay Safe.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	GOOF-VIETNAM
Date:	4/7/2020 3:03:05 PM

i think the carrier is in Guam. Don’t think Vietnam is a super friendly port.....

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	15,000 Miles.........
Date:	4/7/2020 3:07:07 PM

I doubt that is the only reason he was there.  Most officials do multiple things when they visit a region - you are just hearing about one thing he did.  Secondly, while I don't think he should have said what he did to such a wide audience, he is right about the Captain.  There is a chain of command and the media is not part of that.  The Navy, on the whole, is very conservative and ship's captains frequently get relieved for lesser offenses.  They are held to an extremely high level of conduct.  You wouldn't even be hearing about his being relieved if it wasn't involving COVID-19.  He did a stupid thing and he is paying the consequence for his actions... Remembe, actions have consequences, even when you do it with the best of intent.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	And.......he's gone
Date:	4/7/2020 3:18:16 PM

Funny how that works....now the media, which abused Trump over what the guy said will now pillory him for "forcing" the poor guy out.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Mobly...
Date:	4/7/2020 3:25:49 PM

Just heard that Mobly has just offered his resignation.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Wix
Date:	4/7/2020 3:26:11 PM (updated 4/7/2020 3:28:02 PM)

Yes, the Roosevelt docked in Vietnam. Dude, the war is over.

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Is this where the term, “cluster fork” came from?
Date:	4/7/2020 4:12:24 PM

Just wondering.  

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Is this where the term, “cluster fork” came from?
Date:	4/7/2020 6:06:34 PM

According to one definition found using Google: 

"Coined by American and Allied soldiers during the Viet Nam Conflict. Majors and Lt Colonels in the Army and Air Force are the equivillent of middle management. Often, the aquisition of supplies and orders for troop movements were originated by these officers. The insignia for each of these ranks is a small round Oak Leaf Cluster (Majors have a gold cluster, Lt Colonels have a silver custer). When an operation went wrong, it was often blamed on incompitent middle management giving stupid or contradictory orders. Hence, cluster (fork) "    

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Is this where the term, “cluster fork” came from?
Date:	4/7/2020 6:08:15 PM

Thanks!  

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Wix
Date:	4/7/2020 6:25:40 PM (updated 4/7/2020 6:50:22 PM)

OOOOOOHHHHHH, I forgot they stopped by to pick up some face masks for the whining-butt mayor of New York.  Guess the sailers did some kissin' around.....and the CPT!

Guess I coulda told 'em.....ya don't kiss nothin' nowhere in Vietnam.....

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Is this where the term, “cluster fork” came from?
Date:	4/7/2020 7:19:56 PM

Never heard that, but boy, it sure is a valid term!!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Is this where the term, “cluster fork” came from?
Date:	4/8/2020 9:42:28 AM

Makes sense.