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Spot Remover
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 12:36:46 PM
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and going against the feelings of 600 people, I have kept my mouth shut on higher
water levels.
Fisherman have been run completely off the water during some months
and have had to put up with limited time to fish during other months.
Adding additional water and trying to appease pleasure boaters will take additional
fishing areas and safe, enoyable time away from the fisherman.
We will have to put up with interference on Martin during what was a
somewhat token time of year for us to enjoy fishing.
The rude, uncaring, psychos that are on the lake during the summer, will possibly
be on the lake during our short time to get our enjoyment.
If self serving mobs going to the meeting have an effect on quiet time on the lake, those
people will have successfully accomplished their greedy mission.
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Well, that sounds a lot more greedy than the intentions of those trying to get the lake raised. There are plenty of places and times to fish on lake Martin all year long. Even in the summer, most week days are not crowded. I can almost always find a quiet places to fish if the fishing mood kicks in, so I'm not buying your "it's all about me" attitude.
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Spot Remover
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 1:20:27 PM
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You really don't impress me as a fisherman. But so be it. You are probably talking about
the backs of sloughs.
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Ulysses E. McGill
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 1:26:43 PM (updated 7/19/2013 1:38:08 PM)
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I don't impress many folks as a fisherman, but I do like to fish on occasion. My point is it can be done and enjoyed all year. A few years ago I went out with Stripernut on July 5th and we caught fish; go figure. I am no expert fisherman but my brother-in-law and some friends are. I go out with them and we rarely have a hard time catching fish and having a good time even in the summer. Also, the lake will still be wide open in on most days during the fall and winter regardless of water level. I, like many, enjoy all the lake has to offer year around. Some things are a little better at different times, and that won't change.
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| Name: |
Spot Remover
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 1:43:08 PM
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Striper fishing has nothing to do with bass fishing. Opposite end of the spectrum. May through
September and sometimes October, the bass are near the river channel and on creek channels.
I'm not risking my life nor boat after seeing how things are in the late spring, summer, and early
fall.
Every fisherman I know will tell you that the only fishing on Martin is at night, and we know how safe
that is. (talking bass fishermen- by far the majority of the fishermen on the lake)
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Jester
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 1:51:33 PM
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Spot Remover, I have to agree with what you stated. Even the back of the sloughs is not safe. We are easy to spot and they know we are fishing without an outboard running but they will run all the way back to where we are. You can forget being on the points. It's still a matter of respect for others.
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Summer Lover
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 1:54:54 PM
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I don't think that 483 would release an onslaught of "pleasure boaters" that would prey on unsuspecting fishermen. I have not fished Lake Martin for over twenty years, but if I wanted, I could find plenty of "safe areas" in most parts of the lake. The times have changed - when I was in high school in the '70's I would put a 12' aluminum boat in at Blue Creek bridge and we would fish down to Chimney Rock - dang sure would not do that now. I do not mind removing stuck lures from the pier; as long as no one steps on it, I figure no foul - I really did not enjoy removing a lure from the boat upholstery however... I really see this as a "ME" post - I matter, you do not. The "Big Boat Ban" was pushed through by "ME" people, the PWC and over 49 horsepower ban will also be pushed through by "ME" people.
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| Name: |
Spot Remover
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 2:16:04 PM
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483 is not a problem. The problem is maintaining a full or near full level through October.
I approached this topic with guns blazing. I cannot believe that folks would speak for me.
(i.e. It's a win, win for everybody as implied.)
How many fishermen were polled?
Hopefully it will end up with little change, but when a boat comes by me real close or cuts
between me and the bank I won't be Mr. Niceguy.
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MartiniMan
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Oh my!
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7/19/2013 2:37:55 PM
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You really are asking for it. :-) While I rarely fish on the lake I try to be as considerate of those that do by giving them a wide berth when we are engaging in recreation with our boat. But given the constant refrain of complaints from dock owners I assume there are plenty of boaters that are likewise rude to those trying to fish. I will say that if you are trying to fish in a high transit area (which I see occasionally) no amount of courtesy will prevent you from being impacted by other boaters.
There is a lot more to raising the water levels than just bringing nutty boaters to the lake but I think it is safe to say that the majority of those that do use the lake do so not for fishing but for skiing, etc. Clearly these are the people that provide the majority of the economic benefit as well. They buy the most gas, food, etc. They require more maintenance on their boats. They fill the restaurants and so on. For the sake of the businesses around the lake they should be encouraged to spend more time there in the spring and fall and the proposed modifications will help with that. But it will also help with property values for those that own property on the lake.
So I will agree that this may lengthen the timeframe that crazy boaters are on the lake and that will be a pain for those that are fishing but I still believe it is worth it.
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Spot Remover
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Oh my!
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7/19/2013 2:47:35 PM
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It is worth it when you put $$$$ ahead of the serenity of the lake.
The lake should come first. It can be a nice place for recreation or
just to get away from it all if it isn't screwed up.
Lake Lanier comes to mind (when they have water, I know the comeback.)
Those folks will be referring to Martin in the future.
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Summer Lover
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Where do you draw
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7/19/2013 3:38:12 PM
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The line for "serenity" on the lake? If that is what we are searching for, is a bass boat at 60 mph serene? Why not advocate for a speed limit like Lake Tuscaloosa has in place? I think that an "idle speed only" or "electric motor only" lake would be very serene, but it is not what I am looking for on Lake Martin..
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John C
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spot remover
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7/19/2013 3:49:44 PM
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Spot remover - to cover a few points of yours:
1. "they" (I assume you meant AL Power and FeRC) did ask fishermen. They asked all stakeholders, at many public meetings, and through many opportunities to email and write, to have a voice. I assume by asking the question you did not participate in any of the public comment venues you were afforded. If not, I would ask you, why didn't you come to any meetings in the last 6 years? Why didn't you write in to AL Power and FeRC? If you did do these things, then you have been asked.
2. To act like casual fishermen like Ulysses don't have a vote just because you feel superior to him in skill, should not matter. I am sure you are a better fisherman than him and me put together, but that doesn't mean you get a larger vote.
3. To lump all boaters into one category as disturbers of the peace or dangerous is not fair at all. Sure, there are a host of bad apples, but the same can be said for fishermen. Most fishermen are courteous, but a select few are not. I've seen more than my share of fishing boats that speed, drive crazy, dump trash, and be jerks.
4. I fish and I boat. Many, many people do both. The two groups are not mutually exclusive.
5. If you're feeling crowded, try some different locations. It's a huge lake. Also try to mix it up with different times and places. every serious and effective fisherman I know that catches fish in the summer fishes at night. They don't fish at night because of the boaters. It's the water temp.
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Spot Remover
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spot remover
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7/19/2013 6:41:49 PM
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John
1. When I said not polled, I was talking about you.
2. McGill has every right to what he does. (not my style)
3. Those bass fisherman that you talk about/ trash-speed. I agree.
There should be a 50MPH speed limit.
4. I boat to get to where I fish. Boating has little appeal to me.
5. I've fished from Malone to Martin Dam on the river. Up Kowliga
to Willow Point. Maybe the boaters should just boat at night.
You can catch a few fish (bass) at night, but it has nothing to do
with temperature. Bass have sensitive eyes. They do however come
up schooling in the summer. I guess a lot of them live to see the fall.
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Spot Remover
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Where do you draw
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7/19/2013 6:48:03 PM
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SL, just like rights that were originally stated long ago. Peoples rights end at where another's start.
What we have now is definitely not serenity.
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lakeplumber
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Not risking a mugging
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7/19/2013 8:37:57 PM
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Just my 2¢ worth:
1. I've fished the lake for all my life (59 years) in all places and at all times of the year and time of day. I encounter very little boaters who are inconsiderate (granted some idiots do exist). No I'm not a professional fisherman, just do it for enjoyment.
2. The inconsiderate boaters I've encountered were many times both fishermen and pleasure boaters.
3. I've never run out of "fishing areas" or reduced fishing spots on such a vast body of water.
4. Hot spots for fishing may be limited to certain areas (we know that), however there are not signs posted at these places in order that other boaters might yield use of the area to fishermen only.
5. The lake belongs to us all, a re-learning of the golden rule might be good for us all, (Do unto others....).
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roswellric
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I thought....
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7/19/2013 8:46:12 PM
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Higher levels would benefit fishermen. I can't imagine anyone wanting to go wakeboarding or water skiing in the winter months....???
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MartiniMan
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Oh my!
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7/19/2013 9:04:42 PM
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Well all I can say is that as "screwed up" as Lake Lanier is it surely doesn't seem to lack for people wanting to be on it. It just seems to me that you have a burr up your saddle about wanting to have the lake all to yourself to fish without being disturbed and that any other form of enjoyment of the lake is secondary and somehow less pure.
In a way I get what you are saying, people fishing rarely ruin it for the others but the opposite can't be said about other rude boaters and their impact on people fishing. But the point I was trying to make is that the lake is a resource for anyone that wants to use it and there are a lot of good people that depend on those users for their livelihood. To discount that over you being able to fish where you want, when you want, and in total peace seems a little out of whack.
But at the end of the day there is nothing wrong with people wanting to make a living from those that use the lake or wanting to see their property values and enjoyment of the lake increase as a result of the change in the rule curve.
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MartiniMan
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I thought....
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7/19/2013 11:15:41 PM
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Me either. Apparently having the lake pretty much to themselves for nine of twelve months just isn't enough for those pursuing those fish.
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spyke420
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I thought....
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7/20/2013 12:34:00 AM
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BITCHES!
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Ulysses E. McGill
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well said, lakeplumber
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7/20/2013 2:12:53 AM (updated 7/20/2013 2:14:50 AM)
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There are some that will never be happy. Lake Martin has so much to offer so many people and we should all be grateful, but there are always going to be people that are narrow minded in their prospective in what is tolerable. As a homeowner and resident of Lake Martin I welcome boaters, fishermen, jet skiers, swimmers, and vacationers. Yes, there will always be a few idiots (that's a fact of life in any environment) but the good folks that visit and live on our lake outnumber them ten to one. We also need to remember that not everyone enjoys the same things, and that a difference of opinion on lake usage does not make someone an idiot....just because someone rides a jet ski in circles, wakesurfs or wakeboards, fishes by your pier, or has a sterio on their boat does not necessarily make them an idiot; we must all have some tolerance if we chose to live and play on a public recreational area.
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MartiniMan
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Nice
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7/20/2013 8:07:29 AM
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Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation but a dose of nastiness.
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spyke420
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Nice
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7/20/2013 9:02:58 AM
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With all due respect .sorry if I offend anyone but the fact of the matter is there is always a very dark cloud over this site. always very negative about the lake that many love and I have always called home.I have seen the growth over 30 years.This lake is plenty big enuff to get away and enjoy what ever activity it is YOU enjoy!So get off the pc ,and get outside! Fish ,ski,bird watch or take in what ever it is your heart desires!Enjoy!
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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Not risking a mugging
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7/20/2013 9:40:05 AM
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Did you just get mugged?????
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Crimson4Lif
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Not risking a mugging
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7/20/2013 2:09:56 PM
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One of the most ridiculous posts I can remember. Plenty of time and places at sunup to fish....plenty of time and spots right at sundown to fish when ver minimal boats on the water. 7 days in a week....3 at most will be considered crowded water days (fri, sat, sun). Have your time the other 4.
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MartiniMan
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Nice
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7/20/2013 2:35:19 PM
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I think if you read what I wrote you will see that I agree with you. My response was to someone who for some reason sees the lake's rightful user as fishermen and all other users were an annoyance. I am not being negative at all.
As for getting out onto the lake, I would love to but am not there this weekend.
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