Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Scalia's opinion on gun control
Date:	1/19/2013 10:04:36 AM

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. [United States v.] Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

 Justice Antonin Scalia, 2008 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller

Name:	copperline -	Reply
Subject:	Of course there are limits
Date:	1/19/2013 7:16:56 PM

i thought it was important to note that one of the leading conservative Justices of the Supreme Court has already outlined that the 2^nd Amendment is not under attack by gun control laws, and that there are rational ways to discriminate between who should own a weapon, and what type of weapons are generally available for public sale.     if one of the leading conservative jurists in the country is taking this position, then it just adds to my feeling that the NRA is being completely histrionic. 

     MM, the police have assault style weapons because sometimes it is necessary for them to conduct assaults.   Private citizens do not conduct assaults, they conduct defensive actions while waiting for the police to arrive.   And, i don’t think you can attribute gun violence to left-wing politics … Timothy McVey wasn’t a left-winger, and the 2 kids at Columbine were barely shaving… much less involved in politics.   Politics didn’t drive or influence the shooter in Aurora Colorado or Sandy Hook, those guys were insane….  

   Looks like we are coming to some agreements here.   Limited clip size & background checks seem like common ground to many.   Congress will have to address the question of what is or isn’t an assault style weapon… but their track record of moving on any substantive issue these days is abysmal.   Meanwhile, i think we can easily live with the President’s few Executive Orders.   By the way, did anybody find it surprising that previously the CDC has been prevented from researching violence?    i was blown away that this had been written into national policy anyway.

     Meanwhile, if you want to make a quick strike in the stock market… buy gun manufacturers for a short term gain, but watch for the bubble to burst.   Just like Y2K, the Mayan Calendar, and comets that bring the end of the world.