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Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   More Cars & Trucks
Date:   4/9/2007 8:43:19 AM

Is the old "mill economy" irrelevant?

URL: Isuzu to Alabama

Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   More Cars & Trucks
Date:   4/9/2007 9:49:31 AM

NAFTA may work ok after all. Mexico gets the sweat shop textiles, we get the auto manufacturing--if we could just find a job for all the Mexicans.

Wonder why all these plants don't want to go to Dee-troit?? REDNECK POWER forever!!



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   More Cars & Trucks
Date:   4/9/2007 10:32:45 AM

I wonder why we can buy labor from China but not Mexico. Is it skill levels, the Mexican government?

The unseen force at work here is the conversion of the labor force from a $10/hr textile economy to a $20/hr auto economy. That is huge.

I really think the reason the auto plants are locating in AL is the quality and work ethic of the population. Detroit has been brainwashed with the union mentality for too long. Capital always seeks it's highest return as a wise old economist once said.

The other biggie is water. Ever look at a AL state map for water resources?



Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   Detroit's water
Date:   4/9/2007 11:45:58 AM

You said:
"The other biggie is water. Ever look at a AL state map for water resources? "

Ever look at Detroit, Michigan? Most of the world's fresh water is on three sides of it with the biggest, deepest lake in the world on the Michigan Upper Penisula.

Most call this the "rust belt". I call it the "union belt". If they ever get fair "right to work" laws, decent gun laws, honest politians, maybe they will attract more industry.

They will be covered by the next ice age before then.

URL: ice ages

Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   our land prices
Date:   4/9/2007 11:55:13 AM

I just did the math and there is a mistake or they paid $56,646.62 per acre. They said $7,800,000 for 133 acres.





Name:   Pier Pressure - Email Member
Subject:   Hold on now
Date:   4/9/2007 12:51:03 PM

are inferring that Alabama has honest Politicians?



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   industrial land prices
Date:   4/9/2007 12:55:11 PM

I think that's right. I don't know if that is high or low. There's a 140 acre tract for sale in Opelieka for $32K/ acre along I-85.

So I would think a little high for that size tract but you would have to see the particulars involved in the sale. Might be some "soft" financing dollars in there or the proximity to Birmingham might affect it.



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   BTW
Date:   4/9/2007 1:06:35 PM

GREAT article on global goober! Thanks! I sent it to all my friends - all 3 of them :-)



Name:   Feb - Email Member
Subject:   Sun Belt
Date:   4/9/2007 2:05:04 PM

Don't forget the better winter weather with fewer down days due to snow and ice.



Name:   mckaygmc - Email Member
Subject:   Hold on now
Date:   4/9/2007 8:25:16 PM

honest politicians?.......where...lol



Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   Hold on now
Date:   4/9/2007 10:59:39 PM

"are inferring that Alabama has honest Politicians?"

Well, Gov. Riley got an A+ from NRA. Whatever we may think of ours, their's are worse. More crime and people killed in Chicago than in Iraq.

Wis and Illlnios will fight it out to be the last States to allow their citizens to carry guns.

I paid 4% property tax on a house one year in Wis. My nephew pays $3200 on his 1922 house.

Its bad there.




Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Hold on now
Date:   4/9/2007 11:23:41 PM

Down here we pay property taxes based on the value of the house, not the age!!



Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   Wis taxes
Date:   4/11/2007 11:21:21 AM

you said
"Down here we pay property taxes based on the value of the house, not the age!!"

There too. But the tax rates are killers. My 1977 $65,000 assessed house paid $1700/yr. > $4000 in today's dollars. My 2003 $65,000 Alabama house paid $267/yr.

Wisconsin people may pay that per month. I used the number 1922 to show Steve's place is a run down house but still pays a lot.



Name:   Feb - Email Member
Subject:   The Truth Is
Date:   4/11/2007 11:32:15 AM

Alabama property Tax is the second lowest in the Nation. Arkansas has the lowest.

Sales tax is a different issue; therefore you can tax the poor and the rich the same.



Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   The Truth Is relevant
Date:   4/11/2007 11:49:15 AM

True, in the Cities. I almost choked when my State payoff (I mean sales tax), on my Koligia Marine boat with only Tallapossa County Taxes was only 2.5% in 2005. My car tax in Tallassee was 3.1%. Not bad. NYC was 8.5% last I heard.

I NEVER paid less than 3% before and that was in Wis in 1962 when I bought something that had the tax on it. Now, 5.5%









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