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Name:	lakefun -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 8:01:13 PM

Question for supporters of the boat ban bill. Lets suppose for a moment you had a life other than b!tch!ng about what others do, instead you had invested large sums of money into your hobby that was legal when you made the investment and all of the sudden your hobby was deemed illegal. How bad would that suc? Let's say you have a car that will run 150 mph, instead of getting a ticket for exceeding the speed limit your car was banned. Dam that would really suc!!! All I can say is BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Name:	Osms -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 9:11:29 PM

To the best of my knowledge, no one is trying to make your 'hobby' illegal.
The effort is to allow the pursuit of your hobby in more appropriate surroundings--like the ocean.

Name:	lakefun -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 9:29:44 PM

Well we did not buy property at the ocean and therefore we do not live at the ocean, but we do live on Lake Martin. Once again, when we made the investment it was not illegal on Lake Martin. We do not misuse our 29 foot boat on the lake, and we are alot more considerate to others than alot of smaller boat operators. Once again, it is not the size of the boat but the operator. And oh yeah, BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name:	str8tup -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 9:32:20 PM

'We go to the ocean but i live and work here so whats the problem with doing both , i live on this lake full time . us big boaters only enjoy 4 or 5 months of boating . You can have the other 7 or 8 for peace and quiet
lakes are supposed to mean fun if you want quiet dig a pond in the country nobody else will be there.

Name:	lakefun -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 9:48:32 PM

Amen!!!!! Me and Babygirl agree. It all boils down to the operators, not the size of the vessel or how fast it goes. Just because it can go fast, doesn't mean it has to. If the Marine Police see a unsafe act, they will or should address it. This applies to jet skis, bass boats, pontoon boats, paddle boats, sail boats, little boats, big boats, etc.

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	I would say...
Date:	3/23/2006 10:55:18 PM

"WOW! Am I ever glad I actually took the time and effort to read the proposal, so that I'm aware that my boat, as an existing boat on Lake Martin, would be grandfathered in, so that I didn't have to worry about violating any new laws."

Then I would sit back and contemplate the issue, to try to see why so many people are vehemently opposed to my big boat. I would soon understand that my boat, legal or not, is simply out of place on Lake Martin.

Of course, I would also realize that, inappropriate or not, I already had my boat, so I had better go out of my way to be a better, more considerate boater. I would stop running it at those just-above-idle, monster-wake creating speeds that are the root cause of much of the anti-big boat feelings out there. I would realize that "Hey! Just because I have a bigger boat doesn't make me a better person than those people in the small boats; this is their lake, too, and they have opinions that matter just as much as mine. And not only that, they deserve to enjoy the lake in their boats just as much as I do."

I would hope that they would forgive the selfish attitude I had been displaying, and I would vow to be a better boater, and a better person, from this moment forward.

Of course, that's what I would do; as someone who tells people who happen to disagree with you to "Bite Me!," you'll probably do something different. But, it's what we've all come to expect, so it won't be a surprise.

URL: Voice of the little people

Name:	lakebound -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/23/2006 10:56:30 PM

I own property on the lake and have watched it develop over the years as well as seen the number of large boats increase. The big boats are not the problem, yes they go fast and create big wakes, but they always do it in the main channel of water, they do not come plowing down in a slough bouncing your pier, boat and waverunners literally beating them up. I see more problem dummys in 19 - 20 boats, and deck boats cause more problems to property owners than the large boats, and no I do not own a large boat, and I guess that may be a good thing if the power co. and developers have their way.
If they want to limit the size of boats on Lake Harris or an other NEW development so be it, people buying there will be aware of the rules, but leave the rest of us alone..............

oh yeah...... BLING IT ON........ Sorry catboat had to say it -:)

Name:	LittleKowaliga -	Reply
Subject:	Best Post of the Week
Date:	3/24/2006 10:28:14 AM

Amen.

Name:	fountain -	Reply
Subject:	Boat Ban Bill
Date:	3/24/2006 10:47:53 AM

AGREE---AGREE

Name:	longtimer -	Reply
Subject:	Agree, and with remarkably ...
Date:	3/24/2006 1:31:33 PM

little response, most likely because there is nothing in that post that can be argued.

Name:	lakefun -	Reply
Subject:	I would say...
Date:	3/24/2006 8:52:21 PM

Maybe if you had been a more considerate boater in the first place, and not run your boat at those just-above-idle, monster-wake creating speeds and never thought that just because you have a bigger boat that you were a better person than those people in the small boats maybe we would not be having this issue. I will have you know that I have never thought because I own a big boat that I was better than anyone. I have always tried to be considerate to others when operating my boat. I idle all the way out of our slough and when I return I idle back in, and if I come into your slough or any other slough where people live I will idle in and out of that slough. Which is more than I can say for my neighbors and others coming in and out of our slough. I am sure that at times the adult beverages have overcome my better judgment and I have not been as considerate as I should have been, but for the most part over the years I consider myself a considerate boater. If I am fortunate enough to be able to continue to operate by boat on Lake Martin I will continue to be as considerate as I have always tried to be. If I have to get rid of my boat because of this bill I will get a smaller much faster boat and try to be considerate with it. Having said all of this I will not do anything different because I have always tried to be a considerate boater, and never felt I was better than anyone. You have admitted you were an inconsiderate boater and for some strange reason thought you were better than someone because of the size of your boat BITE ME is a mild way of expressing my frustration with this whole deal, not aimed at anyone in particular. But you my friend can BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name:	WSMS -	Reply
Subject:	You are remarkably stupid
Date:	3/25/2006 2:37:34 AM

Yes, lakefun, I mean you. Go back and read your oringinal question, mush-for-brains. You asked a question, the point of which was "What would you do if..." IF. My answer was based on just that: what would I do IF I was faced what some are now faced with regarding the boat ban.

Go get someone who can read, someone with an IQ above 17, someone who has better reasoning skills than an overripe banana-- that is, someone who is not YOU-- to define "if" for you.

My God, you ignorant bufoon, if someone asked you "What would you do if you could fly like Superman?" and you answered "I'd fly to Hawaii!", does that all of the sudden grant you the power of flight? NO! (Really, it doesn't.)

Again, you asked what someone-- someone who is NOT in your position-- would do if we found ourselves in your predicament. My response was what would happen IF I was in that position. I didn't say "Here's what I WILL do."

Why am I even trying to explain this to someone who is obviously so dim, so demented, so downright STUPID that he doesn't know the definition of "if?"

Let me make it easy for you:

! DON'T own a big boat. I don't need to own a big boat, since I am not trying to overcompensate for anything, whether anatomical, sociological or psycological. The boat I do own is less than 18 feet long, and I operate it in a manner that is courteous and respectful to other boaters, to lakeside property, and to the shoreline. IF I owned a bigger boat, I would operate it in the same manner. However, BECAUSE I opeate boats in that manner, I will never own a big boat, since the very operation of such boats directly contradicts any efforts to show respect to other boaters, lakeside property, and the shoreline.

Oh, and I never-- NEVER-- drink and drive. The fact that you do, and admit it, should give every boater on this lake cold shivers up and down the spine. I pray to God you never hurt anyone with your reckless, stupid, illegal behavior, but I fear it's just a matter of time.

What a monumental waste of time answering you has been, because you don't have enough sense in your head to realize what a total ignoramus you are. On the other hand, maybe you made that post after consuming a few dozen gallons of pure grain alcohol, and now that you've sobered up, you see what an obvious, stupid error in judgment you have made. In that case, I await your apology, though I don't expect it; that would require a level of class and dignity that you don't possess.

Name:	Carnac -	Reply
Subject:	Saturation point
Date:	3/25/2006 9:15:57 AM

I can easily understand how you have reached yours. Mine is also getting there. That was the ultimate flame job. And it was hilarious. I admit to feeling somewhat sorry for the sod it was aimed at. That was sod and not sob.

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