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Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/16/2016 8:23:24 PM

Today Trump suggested at a rally that since Hillary Clinton doesn't like guns her Secret Service bodyguards should be disarmed and ''then let's see what happens to her''...sorry folks but this guy is a NUT!!!





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/16/2016 8:59:42 PM

No  he isn't.  Don't you see the hypocracy in pledging to get rid of guns for every one else, while she has a secret service detail that carries them?  If she is so sure no one in private life is safe enough that they shouldn't carry them, why doesn't she believe that she is safe too?  Trump is right.





Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/16/2016 9:15:21 PM

Archy.... You don't live in the real world......I once lived in a location ( for 6 years )where guns had been outlawed for many years and homocides continued to happen with illegal weapons, along with stabbing and machete hacks jobs.......and the poor law abiding citizens were at the mercy of the criminals....why are you so hip to go there??

 

And by the way, the gov't there is still clueless as to why they have an epidemic of gun deaths in their Capitol city??!!! CAn you help us connect the dots????!!!





Name:   Old Diver - Email Member
Subject:   A Gun Law That Works!
Date:   9/17/2016 1:16:53 AM

Now after all these years we can see what works!

 

http://rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/17/2016 7:21:49 AM (updated 9/17/2016 7:28:05 AM)

Come on Hound, you are not (at least not until recently) one of the crazies on this forum.  Hillary Clinton has NEVER, NEVER, NEVER ''pledged to get rid of guns for everyone'' nor in anyway advocated taking away everbody's guns and I defy you are anybody else to post her actual words spoken or written where she has so advocated!!  That dog wont hunt!!

It is getting harder and harder for Trump's less goofy supporters to defend his statements and ideas.  It seems they now have started using his own sorry tactics to explain their support.  I never thought you would join them.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/17/2016 7:29:32 AM

No problem with your stats and comments...except that they nothing to do with what my post addressed.





Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/17/2016 7:44:16 AM

Oh contraries.........every regular common sense American that I know understands completely the parallel that Trump was making and the Hiprocracy practiced by the anti gun crowd.

The problem with folks like yourself is that you are too smart by half......middle America knows of the scam of your gun control arguments and the dots connect themselves......

Better luck on FB with your friends......





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/17/2016 7:56:26 AM (updated 9/17/2016 8:01:30 AM)

Sorry I am not on facebook.  Yes, American with common sense knows what Trump meant, but a he!! of a lot ot his supporters have NO common sense.  As to what everybody knows...well everybody with smarts knows that Trump was using his ''dog whistle'' communication skills technique to appeal down to the lowest depths of his supporters  that, ''hey lets take the gun away from Hillarys Secret Service contingent and see how long before somebody to take her out.  Almost none of even his craziest supporters believe it but they love the fact he says it.  The fact that Trump uses such inappropriate words and the fact that so many eat them up is what is frightening to those who do have common sense not to mention decency.





Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   2d amendment remedy...again
Date:   9/17/2016 8:28:29 AM

Just your wild imagination and opinion Archy...nothing more ....nothing less...

Be nice now....gone for a few days....





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Archi-krap*
Date:   9/17/2016 9:25:48 AM

Liberal idiot news media attempted to get even with Trump's "gotcha" yesterday with o-BAMMIE's birth certificate news conference.  Washington told this lie about what Trump said.  The real truth on gun control:  Disarm dimokraps and reduce gun murders by 91.56%.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Wix
Date:   9/17/2016 3:36:21 PM

Go out and drill for a couple of hours with some of your Storm Trumpers buddies to get your hate count back up...it seems to be flagging a bit.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/17/2016 8:02:51 PM

Just out on the news this evening.

  Robert Gates, respected CIA Director for both Bush & Obama just released this statement... In part, he criticizes Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump on their preparedness to handle US foreign policy -- but the former defense secretary reserved his harshest language for the Republican nominee, who he said is "beyond repair."

 

"When it comes to credibility problems, though, Donald Trump is in a league of his own," Gates, a Republican who led the Defense Department under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed Friday, adding that electing Trump is "too great a risk for America."

"The world we confront is too perilous and too complex to have as president a man who believes he, and he alone, has all the answers and has no need to listen to anyone," Gates wrote. "A thin-skinned, temperamental, shoot-from-the-hip and lip, uninformed commander in chief is too great a risk for America."

Conservatives aren't listening to the wiser voices.  





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/17/2016 8:33:48 PM

And who really cares about Robert Gates?  He was fired by Obama.  he's just trying to be "relevent" like Dick Cheney.  Both Washington  has beens.  He's a lightweight.





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/17/2016 9:04:24 PM

Thanks again for letting us know who the wiser voices are.....NOT

Do you have enough info now to make your decision on election day?  I do believe you are coming over.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 8:48:01 AM (updated 9/18/2016 8:50:12 AM)

Just like I had to deal with the election of Barack Obama, you might have to deal with a Donald Trump presidency.  The US didn't come to an end with Obama, though it certainly changed in ways I don't like, and it will change under a President Trump, probably in ways you won't like.  At this point in the race, roughly half of the voters in the US are so sick of the status quo that they are willing to take that chance.

Gates is just another Washington insider that Trump supporters are so tired of.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 10:31:31 AM

Trump supporters are quickly dismissing every example of experienced voices from their side of the aisle who are cautioning them.  And their assessments of your candidate aren't casual & low-key, they are really dire warnings from people who would know what they are talking about (whether I agree with their politics or not).        I just don't think that it is rational to dismiss people like Robert Gates as a washed up know-nothing who is seeking to make a name for himself by bashing Trump.     It's another contradiction in the thinking of Trump supporters.   Trump will be good for America.  Criticisms of him are not worth paying attention to.

The guy was head of the CIA under two administrations.  You don't get that job (or to keep it) by being a poor judge of character, or having uninformed opinions about world events.   

Trump is definitely proposing a complete revolution, and his supporters are eagerly hoping he will give it to them.   And I sincerely believe that Trump will be a very effective revolutionary if we let you elect him POTUS.   

And, I have to hand it to you... electing a guy with this little knowledge, experience and flawed character to POTUS will be the most effective revolutionary weapon launched anywhere in the world during in this century.   

Trump has exactly zero political experience.   Meanwhile, you have to have 5 years experience to get the job as Assistant Manager at Chili's.

Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.   And the damage won't be easily undone.  

 





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 11:43:32 AM

I guess you never considered he was put in those positions because he is a lightweight?  He was much more pliable than say Rumsfedlt and Wolfowitz.  And you recall when he was CIA Director during the time that the Neocons decided that they didn't like the intelligence his agency was providing and sought to have their own, headed up by a former colleague of mine.

Anyway, I would suggest that you read the Gates biography.  Anyone that whines that much is a lightweight.  And don't forget under B. Clinton, we had the poetry writing William Cohen as the SecDef.

There is one person in Washington whose opinion I would trust.  His name is Gordon England and he was DepSEcDef, under Rummy.  Probably one of the most intelligent, most grounded people in the Washington background. Man has a ton of common sense.  I believe he turned down the opportunity to be SECDEF, before they brought in Gates, but he also served under Gates for a while to aid in the transition.  It wouldn't surprise me if he did not like Trump, because their styles are so different.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 12:19:06 PM

No, frankly it never occurred to me to dismiss Robert Gates as a lightweight.

 

Here is a link to the letter signed by 121 Republican national security experts expressing their opinion that Trump is not qualified.

http://warontherocks.com/2016/03/open-letter-on-donald-trump-from-gop-national-security-leaders/

 

There is no similar letter from any corner of the country expressing confidence in Trump that counters these opinions.  Why aren't you paying attention?

 





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 1:28:49 PM

 

I recognize maybe 2 names from that list, so who is to say that they are "national security experts"?  Other than Frances Townsend, who does have legit national security creds, who are the rest of them.  Oh, I notice Tim Kane is on the list too.  All Democrats?  I believe Frances Townsend is too, since she served under Obama, not Bush. Go back and give me the creds on all those others, and I'll consider your list.  The thing you don't understand is that Washington Think Tanks and Such are full of self described "national security experts".  the 24-26 year olds who serve as hill staffers to committee will also tell you that they are "national security experts" (most with internatioal policy Master's degress and no experience)  There are plenty of these young people who serve in the NSC too.  At one time, some people in the Defense community also considered me an "expert", at least that is how I was billed when I was out speaking. 

I find it hard to communicate with you, because there is so much you do not know or understand about Washington, people in Washington and how business works in Washington.  You are so incredibly naive.  I honestly wish it was mandatory in this country that everyone spend a couple of years working in Washington.  I can tell you that we would have a much better government if everyone had to do it.  Like the military service in Israel.  So you are operating at a deficient in creds, because you never worked in Washington and you never served in the Military. But I did find your observations so interesting last year when you went to Eastern Europe.

 

I guess you didn't notice that 88 military General and Admirals, all retired, gave a vote of confidence to Trump.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   9/18/2016 1:30:10 PM (updated 9/18/2016 1:31:14 PM)




Name:   Buteye - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 2:28:21 PM

Is it possible that many of those who signed the letter are afraid of losing their "cozy" relationship with Congress and don't want to see changes that will take into account the "will" of the American people>





Name:   Buteye - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 2:55:15 PM

In response to your comments of contradictions among Trump sopporters, the same can be said about Hillary's supporters. Hillary will be good for America. Criticisms of her are not worth paying attention to.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Robert Gates on Trump
Date:   9/18/2016 3:34:16 PM

If "Greg Garcia" is the same Greg Garcia who was in charge of the USAF automated systems center at Gunter Annex he is a data dink and I would not consider him a national security expert.





Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   9/19/2016 4:50:33 PM (updated 9/19/2016 4:51:05 PM)




Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   To Tallulahound
Date:   9/19/2016 5:03:08 PM

LOL!   You are communicating your opinions just fine.   I'm clear that you think I am naive and 'holier than thou', also that my lack of experience as a federal employee has put me at great disadvantage when trying to understand the workings of this vast government of ours.   You expressed a kind wish that if only I could have see the world from your desk, I too would clearly see that people like Colin Powell, Robert Gates, and Condoleeza Rice have been substandard government lackies whose opinions can be safely ignored.

It's interesting to me that you cite one fellow whose opinion you would highly respect... then express doubt that he would be supporting Trump.... and still don't see that as the least bit contradictory.

That's double think.  But don't take my word for it.   I'm naive.

 

 









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