Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Famous environmentalist nukes climate alarmism
Date:	6/30/2020 2:33:38 PM

Michael Schellenberger admits the truth and what many of us have been saying for years about man's impact on the planet.

Here are some facts few people know:

• Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction” 

• The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”

• Climate change is not making natural disasters worse

• Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003

• The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska

• The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California

• Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s 

• Netherlands became rich not poor while adapting to life below sea level

• We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter

• Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change

• Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels

• Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture

Add to that some further observations followed by his apology for lying over the last 20 years, which I accept.

• Factories and modern farming are the keys to human liberation and environmental progress 

• The most important thing for saving the environment is producing more food, particularly meat, on less land 

• The most important thing for reducing air pollution and carbon emissions is moving from wood to coal to petroleum to natural gas to uranium 

• 100% renewables would require increasing the land used for energy from today’s 0.5% to 50% 

• We should want cities, farms, and power plants to have higher, not lower, power densities

• Vegetarianism reduces one’s emissions by less than 4%

• Greenpeace didn’t save the whales, switching from whale oil to petroleum and palm oil did

• “Free-range” beef would require 20 times more land and produce 300% more emissions

• Greenpeace dogmatism worsened forest fragmentation of the Amazon

• The colonialist approach to gorilla conservation in the Congo produced a backlash that may have resulted in the killing of 250 elephants

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	Famous environmentalist nukes climate alarmism
Date:	6/30/2020 4:56:03 PM

Your postings on this forum are quite proliferative and as dangerous as Russian bots on Facebook!

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Famous environmentalist nukes climate alarmism
Date:	6/30/2020 5:39:05 PM

And probably has more influence on the election than all those bots combined, as Mueller proved.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Now you've done it
Date:	6/30/2020 7:15:49 PM

you've P O'd the smartest man in the world...a Mensa legend in his own mind!

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Now you've done it
Date:	6/30/2020 11:10:23 PM

You're just jealous because MM beats you like a drum. He uses logic, reason, and facts and you use "Orange Man bad".

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Proliferative?????
Date:	7/1/2020 8:17:34 AM

Huh!  As the oft-quoted line in the movie stated,  "I do not think you know what that word means." 

Dangerous as Russian bots?  LOL, I knew it.  You still do believe they were for Trump and probably still foolishly believe there was collusion.  Come on, admit it.  You do, don't you?  

Seriously dude, do you have anything that refutes this information?  Were these conclusions not made by a famous environmentalist?  Did he not apologize for spending 20 years lying about the environment?  I know seeing things like this threaten your worldview and I know its upsetting to know that you've spent years believing lies by people that hate capitalism.  I know it makes you feel like a mindless, scientifically illiterate dupe.  Don't blame me, I've been telling you left wing nuts this stuff is bovine excrement for decades.  You just wouldn't listen to facts, logic or apply reason to them.