Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down Monticello?
Date:	8/18/2017 2:51:10 PM

An African American young black woman being interviewed in Charlottesville said that is offensive having Thomas Jefferson and Monticello looking down on them.  In fact, she said "The Master looking down on us".  So shall we tear down Monticello too?  There is already talk that Mount Rushmore should be taken down.  And what about the Jefferson Memorial in Washington?  And maybe tear down the White House, since it was built with slave labor. 

The problem is that you can tear down the monuments, you can erase all traces of the civil war, but you still can't touch people's hearts and minds.  Liberals are allowing BLM to incite White Guilt, in order to get what they want.  Liberals want to rewrite history.  Will they call to cease civil War re-enactments and disband the Daughters of the Confederacy? 

I am not against Black people by any stretch of the imagination.  I think they are caught up in echo chamber being told what they should think.  Just like the very Alt right - Neo Nazi, White Supremists, and KKK have found each other via the internet and have figured out a way to be heard.  I don't agree with them either.  All of it is repugnant to me.  But if I say that I don't think the statues should come down, I'm automatically labeled sympahtizing with the alt right - I am a racist, I don't care about black people, etc.   I do care, but there is a nagging thought in my brain that says here we go again catering to a vocal minority.  Why don't we just let individual communites decide whether to keep a statue up or take it down. 

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down all history and anything good
Date:	8/18/2017 4:36:02 PM

https://www.infowars.com/next-on-liberals-list-for-destruction-confederate-carvings-at-stone-mountain-memorial/

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down all history and anything good
Date:	8/18/2017 8:33:04 PM

That is awful.  I think I read something about this.  It's not only a piece of history, but has value as an art piece too. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down all history period
Date:	8/21/2017 4:00:27 PM (updated 8/21/2017 4:00:47 PM)

A monument in Baltimore to Christopher Columbus was vandalized overnight.

Baltimore Police said they were looking into the incident.

A video posted to YouTube shows a man striking the base of the monument near Herring Run Park repeatedly with a sledgehammer. Another person holds a sign that reads: “Racism, tear it down.” Another sign is taped to the monument reading: “The future is racial and economic justice.”

It has nothing to do with White nationalism, Nazi's or the KKK, but and its explinations as to why take a sledge to Columbus was revealing as to the alt-left, AntiFA, BLM, Archie.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down all history period
Date:	8/21/2017 5:09:32 PM

I guess Christopher Columbus was a racist?  Now that is strange.  But it's Baltimore and they don't likely have any Confederate statues, so they have to go after what they have.  It's really a shame what has happened to Baltimore.  I have an African American friend that lives up there and an otherwise intelligent man is now spouting sounds from the echo chamber of BLM.  I suspect a lot of African Americans are tuned into BLM and other "activists", like Al Sharpton, and now believe that they are really oppressed and entitled to something.  it breaks my heart with this friend, becasue he retired from the Navy a few years ago, went to Culinary School and graduated with honors and is now working for the Geospatial Agency.  He's not a dummy by a long shot, but BLM has certainly got to him.

Name:	Moldyoldy -	Reply
Subject:	Tear down all history period
Date:	8/22/2017 1:26:10 AM

Antifa does not mean anti fascist. It means pro communist. Or in other words, democrats. Blm, antifa, and all their ilk are weak minded idiots. The useful fools of lenins writings who are too ignorant and weak willed to form their own opinions.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Speaking of Lenin
Date:	8/22/2017 9:34:27 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/19/in-seattle-people-are-protesting-monuments-to-the-confederacy-and-communism/?utm_term=.602d11abe939

statue for sale - $250,000, is privately owned and not on public property - so I can care less - maybe Archie can take up a collection from GFY and CrapperTime and have it put in his back yard overlooking his back fence where his African American neightbor lives that he is not afraid of.

On Thursday, Mayor Ed Murray joined critics in seeking the removal of a monument that has long been a subject of curiosity and controversy, saying the deadly violence last weekend in Charlottesville should serve as incentive to remove all symbols of racism and hatred, “no matter what political affiliation may have been assigned to them.”

Murray, a Democrat, also has taken aim at a Confederate memorial in the city’s Lake View Cemetery. Both are privately owned.

“We should never forget our history,” he wrote in a prepared statement, “but we also should not idolize figures who have committed violent atrocities and sought to divide us based on who we are or where we came from.”

It was created in Slovakia by artist Emil Venkov between 1978 and 1988, when it was installed in the city of Poprad, not far from the Polish border. A year later, as the Soviet Union broke apart, the statue was taken down.

It was discovered in a junkyard by Lewis Carpenter, an American visiting from Washington state, who was said to be so enamored with its artistry that he leveraged his mortgage to finance the purchase and ship it home to Issaquah, 20 miles east of the Seattle. It was moved to Fremont after Carpenter’s death in 1994 (Venkov died in June) and now occupies a small parcel maintained by the local business community.

Carpenter’s family still owns the statue and, according to the Seattle Times, has been hoping to sell it for many years. The asking price is $250,000.

The statue is a fixture in their community, one they festoon with holiday lights each December. It’s “tangible proof,” Fremont residents explain on their website, “that art does outlive politics.”

Here’s more:

“If art is supposed to make us feel, not just feel good, then this sculpture is a successful work of art. The challenge is to understand that this piece means different things to different people and to learn to listen to each other and respect different opinions. From an artist’s standpoint, all points of view are valid and important.”

Makes sense to me - Liberals / Progressives think that "art" outweighs evil, at least the mayor would like for both monuments to come down - unlike the local business community who maintains Lenin and lovingly wraps him with Christmas lights each year, where commenters from the Area claim it does not honor Lenin or Communism but is the subject of ridicule in front of a fish taco restaurant in a whacky neighborhood.