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Osms
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Lake levels about to fall??
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6/26/2012 11:24:18 PM
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APCo just posted their operating schedule for the next few days and it looks like we're in for a draining. They're scheduling 3 turbines to run at once each afternoon, a rare occurrence this time of year in the middle of a drought. Funny, they're not doing the same on any other dams. That could take us down a foot over the next few days.
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Kizma Anuice
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Call and complain
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6/27/2012 7:23:46 AM
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people who use the lake should all start calling any APC elected officials, the HOBOs LMRA Russell Lands and any one else you can think of including Cathouse. Tell Cat to get a FAT HOES HANGOUT. bait it with KRISPY KREEMS
don't waste your time telling me about the weather the farmers down stream or any of the other garbage you are thinking. I DON'T CARE. AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT OR SEE IT.
your lame excuses for other people doing what they want to do is just drivel.
and don't say "it won't do any good" certainly sitting with your thumb up your anuice has done not good.
just start calling and try to organize a occupy martin dam movement.
start a raftup at the dam not at the rock this 4th.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST TRY GO RECRUIT FAT LADIES TO SWIM IN THE LAKE at least it will make the lake look more full.
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dmp
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Call and complain
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6/27/2012 7:54:38 AM
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Kizma you are full of yourself aren't you! I don't see anything from the original post that warrants your retort. It is true that APCO is about to run 3 turbines some, that will (barring any real rain events) dramatically reduce the lake level.
It does seem odd for them to be releasing that amount given the conditions.
Go ahead, I guess you can attack me now.
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MrHodja
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Call and complain
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6/27/2012 8:06:59 AM
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The weather forecast over the next 10 days is for brutal heat. I suspect that APCO needs the extra source of electrons so folks can keep their houses at a reasonble temperature.
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Lifer
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Of course....
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6/27/2012 8:35:52 AM
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Jesse know best!! It couldn't possibly be that the current and projected heat wave of triple digit temps has any bearing on the decision to generate. Nah, it's all about jesse.
Actually one has to wonder if it is more of the continued slapdown of the HOBO by APCO. Laughable of course, but I couldn't resist....lol.
Another reason I am SURE has no bearing on the decision of when and where to generate is that electricity once generated can only be 'shipped' so far (about 300 miles I believe) before it is a losing proposition. So naturally APCO would choose to generate from the plant closest to the grid that is experiencing the highest drain. Maybe a plant with a large capacity that is centrally located between the two densest population areas of the state. It couldn't possibly be that maybe the floods in Florida have knocked some generating capacity off line ( I don't know if this is the case, but choose to look at a situation in it's totality as opposed to how it affects ME ME ME). Nah, it's all about jesse and how much water he has to play in.
I for one choose to revel in the 488 or so that we still will have as opposed to whining and complaining about the foot or so we don't have. Makes for a much more enjoyable second half of summer.
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Crimson4Lif
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Stop and take a minute to ......
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6/27/2012 10:56:39 AM
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think about a few years ago when the water was about 5 feet from your pier and you walked in red mud to get to the boat that was beached in front of your place. When you ponder how awful it was to try and enjoy the lake with that condition....having the water dropped down to around 2 feet below full pool is not anything to blink at. Cat can I borrow a line.....jus sayin.
dmp - You must not know KA that well....he has been a complete jacka$$ for years. His posts are always negative and loaded with smarta$$ responses. It's in his nature....he has proven year after year. You just have to do one of two things....know what he is and ignore it or click the magic button so you don't have to see it.
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Pontoonfisher
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Lake levels about to fall??
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6/27/2012 11:46:19 AM
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I hope they drop it 5 feet in the next three weeks. Less people on the lake and more beach to enjoy.
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CAT BOAT
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Lake levels about to fall??
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6/27/2012 2:24:58 PM
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My CAT goes under Blue Creek Bridge by a mear 6". Lets me visit Nicks Smokehouse by water.
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Kizma Anuice
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Nothing to do with air conditioners
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6/27/2012 11:01:05 PM
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It is money STUPID. Not airconditioning.
Less than 4% of SO's generation capacity is hydro.
Southern Company subsidiaries operate hydroelectric, gas, coal, and
nuclear generation sources to generate approximately 200 terawatt-hours
of electricity. In 2009, coal represented 57 percent of the company's
output, followed by nuclear (23%) and natural gas (16%). Renewable hydroelectric power
represented 4 percent of Southern's generation. Coal-based generation
dropped significantly in 2009 from an average of 70% between 2005 and
2008
Lifer you better go back to EE school if that is how you think the grid works. Or just do a little research on Enron.
This is about money or water flow to make money for somebody.
Big questions is why are no other lakes going to flow some water?
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Kizma Anuice
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DID YOU PULL THAT OUT OF YOUR ANUICE?
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6/27/2012 11:02:57 PM
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Do some research. and see my post below
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| Name: |
MrHodja
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Who
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6/27/2012 11:31:59 PM
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pi$$ed in your corn flakes?
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| Name: |
Kizma Anuice
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Hodja like to Kizma Anuice
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6/28/2012 4:49:42 AM
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Lifer
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Nothing to do with air conditioners
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6/28/2012 9:09:55 AM
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Well kizma I know more about the grid than the average bear I can assure you. You are right is about money for sure. Martin has had generator upgrades that make it more efficient than most of the others in the state. I also know that they sometimes sell power to other grids across the nation. When they do this they get on average about 15 times what they sell it to us for. They also like to do it with hydro because it is the cheapest way to generate it. Hydro is also the method of choice for these transfers for the very reason that you state, so little of the consumer power sold to us is generated by hydro. Therefor, when they sell 'off grid' they can generate the power with hydro without depleting the grid of the Alabama system.
Earlier this week it was reported that the Texas grid was strained due to the highest demand ever. I am sure they were 'importing' power from many other sources. One of those may have been APCO. Although as I stated earlier electricity can only be transmitted about 300 miles before it degrades to be being to expensive, it can be transferred from grid to grid with cooperation of the other systems all the way across the country in extreme circumstances. We are blessed in Alabama to be in the middle of Southern Company's grid. We enjoy the lowest rates in the country and NEVER have issues with 'brown outs' and the like.
Now you go and do some research. Disprove anything I have said, I dare you. My Father in law retired from SOCO last year and has educated me for years in the workings of APCO and the national grid in general. So go and pick a fight elsewhere on the forum with someone that doesn't know you and where you may have superior knowledge. Maybe OSMS would like to retain you to sue APCO for daring to use the lake for what it is intended.
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Osms
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Thanks for the info.
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6/28/2012 9:10:19 AM
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In addition to your post, we have found that Lake Martin only provides less than 1/4 of one percent (0.24%) of the megawatts produced by Alabama Power. The entire Tallapoosa River system (Harris, Martin, Yates, and Thurlow) produces a little over 1/2 on one percent (0.64%).
Also, interesting is the fact that Alabama Power sells about 7% of their production to other electric companies outside Alabama, which means they are using Alabama citizen's water for other states. While it's good business to sell excess capacity, it's questionable whether doing so at the expense of Alabama's citizens is best. By state law, all water in Alabama belongs to the citizens of Alabama.
Don't know it everyone noticed that APCo rates have gone up about 9% in the last couple of months.
See the HOBO article in the June issue of Lake Magazine.
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Lifer
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And BTW you blathering IDIOT...
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6/28/2012 9:17:57 AM
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...and Pirate thief!
I will match wits with you anytime, any place, on any subject, including general law (for which you claim to be a member of the Bar Association)
Stupid is as stupid does!!
Get a haircut, maybe those long grey locks are depleting the oxygen to your brain.
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Pontoonfisher
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Nothing to do with air conditioners
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6/28/2012 10:32:34 AM
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Someone get Kizma some smelling salt becuase I think he just got the chit knocked out of him.
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MrHodja
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Hodja like to Kizma Anuice
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6/28/2012 12:35:14 PM
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Do you feel better now?
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| Name: |
Lifer
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Thanks for the info.
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6/28/2012 12:59:59 PM
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Quoting osms:
"In addition to your post, we have found that Lake Martin only provides
less than 1/4 of one percent (0.24%) of the megawatts produced by
Alabama Power. The entire Tallapoosa River system (Harris, Martin,
Yates, and Thurlow) produces a little over 1/2 on one percent (0.64%).
Also,
interesting is the fact that Alabama Power sells about 7% of their
production to other electric companies outside Alabama, which means they
are using Alabama citizen's water for other states. While it's good
business to sell excess capacity, it's questionable whether doing so at
the expense of Alabama's citizens is best. By state law, all water in
Alabama belongs to the citizens of Alabama. "
End quote.
Do you have any idea how petty and ridiculous you sound? Rhetorical question, no need to embarrass yourself with an answer. So only .24% of APCO power comes from Martin and 7% of total output goes to other systems. I will leave to others to figure out how little of 'our water' is used to generate to other systems. APCO, as much as you may not like it, is licensed to use this and all other lakes for the generation of electricity. Yes they sell to other systems, and as I stated for an overage of 15 times what we pay. This helps keep our rates the lowest in the country. They were doing this DECADES before you came along and will continue for decades after you are gone. I understand it makes you feel self important to bash APCO as you do. I hope you continue because I enjoy the smackdowns you continue to get from them.
As you so ineptly remind us, the water in this lake belongs to ALL the citizens of this state, not just those of us lucky enough to live along it's banks. I bet the other 99.999%+ of Alabama residents don't give a rats f@rt whether we loose an inch or so of water for the generation of CHEAP electricity. And what 'expense to Alabama's citizens'? What you really mean is wah wah, I may loose a little water in front of my leased lot. IF I was in charge I would add a clause to your lease that you MUST stop whining about water levels or your lease will be terminated. But alas, I am not. Don't project your pettiness onto the 'citizens of Alabama". You are the only person I see/hear complaining. The rest of the state understands that APCO are the experts and appreciate that we do have such low rates and that we have such a beautiful resource to play on.
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Kizma Anuice
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YOu might want to remove that post
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6/28/2012 4:16:01 PM
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I actually don't understand that change of attitude in your first and second response to my post.
If you choose not to remove your post I will respond and you will not like my response.
As you said we know each other, I have no animosity for you and in fact feel sympathy for you, as I do for anyone who has had a health situation.
btw, my hair is 2" long, I have a certificate from Hawk for donating 4 13 inch "BLOND" ponytails to his Wigs for Kids.
Incidentally "BLOND" was there work and they will only take hair that has not been died and which contains less than 5% grey.
Also I did not steal the Pirate and you have the pics that prove it.
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| Name: |
Lifer
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Respond away....
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6/28/2012 5:12:34 PM (updated 6/28/2012 5:17:35 PM)
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Maybe it was when you called me stupid, dumb@ss! Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
And it is common for folks receiving a donation to be kind. I wear my grey with pride. I earned every one of them. Why are you so touchy about yours?
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Kizma Anuice
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I don't recall
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6/28/2012 5:31:11 PM
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I don't recall calling you those things. If you can show me the post I will remove it. No need for cruelty.
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| Name: |
Lifer
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Your 11:01pm post......
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6/28/2012 6:56:53 PM
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It is money STUPID. Not airconditioning.
Less than 4% of SO's generation capacity is hydro.
Southern Company subsidiaries operate hydroelectric, gas, coal, and
nuclear generation sources to generate approximately 200 terawatt-hours
of electricity. In 2009, coal represented 57 percent of the company's
output, followed by nuclear (23%) and natural gas (16%). Renewable hydroelectric power
represented 4 percent of Southern's generation. Coal-based generation
dropped significantly in 2009 from an average of 70% between 2005 and
2008
Lifer you better go back to EE school if that is how you think the grid works. Or just do a little research on Enron.
This is about money or water flow to make money for somebody.
Big questions is why are no other lakes going to flow some water?
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No need to remove it. I am not insecure as to my intelligence.
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jalcz
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Wow...
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6/28/2012 7:06:01 PM
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Kizma must really not like his disbarments mentioned. This is at least twice that a post mentioning that fact has been zapped. And that's just two that I have seen; I wouldn't be surprised if it had happened more.
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Lifer
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Wow...
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6/28/2012 7:16:41 PM
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Nobody said anything about disbarment's. Just a couple of guys jabbing one another. We can do that. We know each other. You on the other hand can crawl back under the slime you live in.
Besides, kizma surrendered his license BEFORE the bar hearings.... ;<)
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Kizma Anuice
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Your 11:01pm post......
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6/29/2012 12:10:00 AM
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Did not intend to imply you were stupid. Just was paraphrasing the it's the economy stupid phrase that was used in the Clinton campaign
And never said the word dumba$$ just a misunderstanding I believe
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jalcz
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Wow...
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6/29/2012 12:15:47 AM
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I didn't say you did, just that somebody did. I read it, then it was gone.
Or maybe you're of the opinion that everybody but you is a nobody. You're free to that opinion, no matter how more ignorant than usual it makes you look.
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Lifer
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Your 11:01pm post......
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6/29/2012 9:06:49 AM
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NO worries. Didn't catch that reference. Written words don't infer inflection and tone. Just trying to stir things up. Forum has been way too boring lately.
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Wakely
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How many people complaining...
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6/29/2012 2:37:24 PM
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How many of you who are complaining about the turbines being run for a couple of hours are the SAME people who want Lake Martin to be a "run of the river" lake like Lay lake, Lake Mitchell, etc?
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UncleSam
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Only the dumb ones.
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6/30/2012 2:39:09 PM
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Which might be all of them. If this hot weather didn't have me feeling so lazy I'd go back and look at some of those old threads and see. :-)
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