Name:	GC -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 7:34:09 PM

was full pool ever at 490?  I now understand it is 491.  Am I wrong?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 8:05:15 PM (updated 12/21/2016 8:09:55 PM)

You asked the same qiuestion in July 2016.....answer has not changed.

Name:   GC - Subject:   Full pool Date:   7/24/2016 6:15:35 PM

when did the full pool number change from 490.0 to 491.0?  Did I dream it was 490.0 for decades?  

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 8:33:42 PM

The old full pool was 489.5 and the new full pool is 490.5

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 8:50:47 PM

Go out to your dock. Locate the highest water mark left on the post. Mark that spot with a white paint stripe. That is full pool and it matters not whether 490, 491 or whatever.

Name:	GC -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 8:53:49 PM

So why would level related to sea level changes?  The reason I ask is the FEMA requirement for elevation surveys for floood insurance.  

Name:	GC -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 8:55:11 PM

Well FEMA will argue that point!

Name:	GC -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/21/2016 9:04:21 PM

Guess you have not had the pleasure of dealing with FEMA for flood insurance on a new mortgage.  A nightmare, so lake level does matter if you have to pay thousands of dollars per year for insurance.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Simple answer
Date:	12/22/2016 2:09:37 AM

Someone in 1923,or there about, someone screwed up by on foot. It was subsequently discovered but ignored for decades. With the new license this year APCO was required to change and use the correct 491 in all reporting. The scientific community has done so for decades. So there will be a few years of confusion amongst some old timers but then everyone will be on the same level.

As for FEMA, good luck. The flood of 1979 and the subsequent modifications/additions to the dam changed the physical dynamics of the lake. It has been explained in detail several times in the forum. If you search 1979 flood and/or "coffer dam" I think you will understand better after reading those posts. In typical government fashion it just took them a few decades to catch up with the reality of the new flood plain. If your rate is in the thousands I assume you  use very close to waters edge in a high risk zone and are probably fighting a loosing battle. Just speculating here but it seems like maybe this is the first time the place has sold/refinanced and never needed flood insurance before and folks are freaking out trying to figure out why. But that is just ramblings of an old tired brain. Hope this helps you understand. You are certainly not the first to be confused over the numbers recently.

Name:	GC -	Reply
Subject:	Simple answer
Date:	12/22/2016 8:29:28 AM

Thanks!  As for FEMA I had to pay $500 for a elevation certificate excluding my house from the flood plain.  They assume now that the entire lake is a flood plain, so you have to prove your house (mortgage) is not in the flood plain.  If and when the power company finishes their water study, perhaps that will change.  All of this delayed my builder by 90 days waiting for the certificate (mortgage) approved.  Then enters adeca (water division) through the county.  

Again, thanks for explaining.  Oh, estimates on flood insurance varied but would be 2,000 or so per year.  2,000 times 30 year mortgage, 60,000 to insure against something that is impossible according to the power company.  15 gates release more water than input from a flood upstream has ever produced.  Our federal and state governments protecting us from ourselves, while picking our pockets.  

Name:	Mack -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/22/2016 10:57:00 AM

OK. Worry it to death until you are satisfied.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Simple answer
Date:	12/22/2016 12:16:50 PM

Actually she can leave her banks now by several feet. In 1979 the water overflowed the damage going around it on the eastern side. After that a barrier/coffer day was built on the eastern bank to prevent it from happening again so now all that water that overflowed before will be held in the basin meaning she potentially could leave her banks by several feet. That doesn't mean she will however.  Now with more accurate for casting and better control of all of the waterways it is doubtful it ever will happen. With predictions now they sometimes lower the lake levels in advance of large flooding events know it is frustrating but worth it in the end to live in paradise. Welcome to the lake and the forum.

Name:	JTenn -	Reply
Subject:	Lake level
Date:	12/23/2016 12:55:50 PM

You can discuss this subject day in and out, but APCO will still do what they want to control power output and stream flow requirements.