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MAJ USA RET
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Liability
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7/3/2012 1:55:43 PM
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Our obedience trained golden retriever was viciously attacked on public property by an unstrained pitbull. The StillWaters Residential Homeowner Association has ruled that we are equally at fault because my golden was not on a leash. Suppose the pitbull had attacked me?
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Samdog
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Liability
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7/3/2012 2:12:47 PM
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Does Alabama's "stand your ground" law extend to dogs?
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MAJ USA RET
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Liability
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7/3/2012 2:25:13 PM
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Now there's a good question!
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Lifer
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Liability
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7/3/2012 2:50:27 PM
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I believe state law trumps HOA. There are no leash laws in Tallapoosa county. Not sure exactly how that would affect liability, but may be worth checking into. Probably would still come out 50/50.
But as an aside, the Stillwaters HOA selectively enforces their covenants. They justify it by saying different sections are covered by different or NO covenants. They are about to have to defend that position in court as soon as future plaintiffs have all their ducks in a row.
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MAJ USA RET
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Liability
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7/3/2012 3:22:24 PM
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The StillWaters HOA needs a good dose of sunshine!
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lakeplumber
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Liability
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7/3/2012 5:53:11 PM
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That's unfortunate.
I hope that your pet was not seriously injured.
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MAJ USA RET
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Liability
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7/3/2012 7:06:01 PM
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Our golden went straight to submissive (she is not aggressive). The pit-bull continued to chew on her until its owner arrived (in his own good time). Twice he tried to pull off his dog. Twice the pit-bull got away and resumed mauling my dog. MEANWHILE, MY WIFE IS KICKING AT THE PIT-BULL! Fortunately our retriever is very large and the pit-bull was extracted before any life threatening damage was inflicted. She made two trips to the vet… initial and follow up.
My wife and golden were on public property… quite a distance from the pit-bull’s residence... it wasn't even in sight. Our golden was not headed for that house... she's afraid of the pit-bull from an earlier encounter. Our dog is obedience trained (voice and hand signals) and can be controlled… even at a distance.
The StillWaters Resident Homeowners Association ruling was – since our dog was not on a leash, we are jointly liable for the attack.
Question – had our dog been on a leash, would she have been attacked by the pit-bull?
Question – what if my wife… or I… was attacked?
StillWaters RHOA has not banned the pit-bull from StillWaters. This would seem to make them jointly liable for future mauling… or God forbid… a death, caused by this vicious animal should the owner elect to bring it back.
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lakeplumber
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Liability
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7/3/2012 7:25:18 PM
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IMHO, since your dog is obedience trained, I would think that she would not be required to be on a leash. I believe that if dogs are obedience trained, a leash is not necessary.
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MAJ USA RET
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Liability
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7/3/2012 7:54:32 PM
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Anyone who has regularly travelled Vista Wood or Knollwood will affirm that the dog is called to either of us... and directed to sit and stay until the automobile has passed. Many of them have seen her walking in the "heel" position as we pass by their house… especially if they have small dogs or children which might be intimidated by a very large playful dog. Some with very small dogs will note that she is NOT aggressive towards their dogs. Many with larger dogs will attest that our golden will go submissive until the other dog is finished with “establishment of the lead dog” behavior… and then the dogs get to romp and play.
Our dog did not approach the pit-bull or its house. The pit-bull was NOT interested in playing.
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Maverick
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Liability
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7/3/2012 8:02:36 PM
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I would have to say the Stillwaters HOA is setting itself up for a major liability once the dog attacks a human (even worse a child) as they know the dog is a danger based on its prior actions.
Would not want to be on the Board if a human is attacked and I would suspect it is just a matter of time.
Sorry to hear about your lab, but glad it was not life threatening.
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deepwaterd
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7/4/2012 9:58:31 AM
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As a dog owner you are liable for the dogs actions. leash law or not. The owner of the Pitt will have to pay for injuries to your dog. and quarantine the Pitt. Call the county law and report the attack.
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AUrunner
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7/9/2012 4:59:11 PM (updated 7/9/2012 5:06:33 PM)
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