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MartiniMan
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Quick recap of Brandon document scandal
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1/23/2023 9:21:46 AM
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First trove of docs found at Penn - inadvertant, just a coincidence that they waited until after the midterms to leak their existence, no worries!
Second trove found in the garage with his vet - Brandon is cooperating and being transparent, no worries!
Third and fourth trove found by his lawyers as FBI was AWOL - Uh, those were inadvertant too, we swear, and Brandon is cooperating, transparent as often as they keep finding classified documents, as far as you know, so no worries we think...probably.
Then the DOJ finds a fifth trove of docs that he stole not as a departing VPOTUS (still illegal), but as a Senator - this one is even more problematic than the first four batches, which are already very problematic. You see, as a Senator not only is he not allowed to take classified docs but he has to intentionally circumvent the security process to do so.....this ain't inadvertant (neither were the earlier ones IMO guided by common sense and basic deductive reasoning), he clearly has not and is not being transparent about his numerous instances of illegal pilfering of classifed documents, so apparently DOJ figured out he was not being cooperative nor transparent so they undertook their own search.
I am waiting to see the pretzel knots they twist themselves into to explain away the fact that President Joe Biden aka Let's Go Brandon, long before he had dementia, had a serial penchant for stealing classified documents in clear violation of 18 U.S. Code 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material and leaving them laying around all over the place in unsecured locations where who knows who had access to them...including his crack addled son that was in cahoots with the ChiCom, Ukraniains and probably twenty other foriegn countries. But, but, but Trump!!!! Right Goofy?
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lucky67
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Quick recap of Brandon document scandal
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1/23/2023 2:27:05 PM
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yet the house is available--any search of other home yet ??? Amazon says paper shredder blades are backordered due to supply chain issues
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GoneFishin
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Quick recap of Brandon document scandal
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1/23/2023 4:26:09 PM
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The only thing he is quilty of is not declassifying the papers with a magic wand before leaving office as Vice President like Trump says he did before he left office.
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MartiniMan
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Quick recap of Brandon document scandal
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1/23/2023 4:50:18 PM
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Goofy, the only person that can declassify documents is POTUS....not VPOTUS and certainly not a Senator who would have to make a concerted effort to skirt the security protocols to get copies or originals of classified documents. Read that as Biden knew what he was doing when he did it as a Senator in clear violation of Federal law. As much as I was skeptical about the whole inadvertant excuse, which legally makes no difference, he simply has no such excuse for the docs he took as a Senator. So yes, the circumstances surrounding Trump and Biden are different.....it is much worse with Biden because he doesn't even have the ability to use the excuse that he declassified documents. He had no ability to do so.
And yes, POTUS can declassify any document with a wave of his hand even if that is not how it's usually done. Bear in mind that POTUS does not even have a security clearance. Our Constitution POTUS the sole ability to declassify even if you don't like it. I know your civics education is lacking but c'mon man!
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GoneFishin
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 4:58:19 PM
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From FOX so it must be true....
CIVICS for kindergaten
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HARRY
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 5:51:45 PM
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Set him up and took him down
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MrHodja
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 8:31:39 PM
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So I read EO13526, especially with regard to declassification, and it seems he has the authority to declassify anything he classified or was classified by his office. I would argue that the chain of command shown in the video is in error. It does not go from the President through the VP to the agencies. It goes straight from the President to them. The Cabinet works for the President, not the VP, and thus the VP does not supervise them and has no declassification authority over items classified by them.
So, GF, your video is a little bit right but not as right as you and it's creator would like one to believe.
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MrHodja
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 8:33:42 PM
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Not as much as you might like.
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Talullahhound
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 10:32:56 PM
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Yes you can declassify anything that you classifed, presuming that you are a classifying authority.
I'd like to know what was taken that was classified. If it was just his old scedules and such, so what. But if any of those documents provided information about foreign leaders or foreign activities, or business matters - that's a different kettle of fish. And if it was classified beyond the SECREt level, it's pretty evident that he was not the classifying authority. What I don't get - eveyone I have ever known that had the ability to take home classified (and not TS or TS/SCI) had to have an approved container to keep it in - in other words, a safe to keep hard copies in. But it doesn't appear to me that Biden had any such container in any of the locations. Who knows what else they will find if they search his Rehobeth house. Who has had access to all this stuff?
Joes trying hard to stone wall and act like it isn't any big deal but it raises a lot of questions. I don't think he will ever be punished for it, but it's funny how a lot of Democrats are condeming him on this - perhaps he doesn't have a great deal of support for his next run.
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GoneFishin
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 11:04:04 PM (updated 1/23/2023 11:09:34 PM)
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The FBI did a search and found a few more.
As to the Vice President declassifying....
McClanahan, who also teaches at the George Washington University Law School, said that under a 2009 executive order signed by Obama, the vice president is included in a list of "original classification authorities," meaning Biden had the power declassify anything he classified.
"It is longstanding practice in the executive branch to treat the vice president as having the same amount of authority in that respect as the president unless the president explicitly says otherwise," McClanahan said.
https://www.law.gwu.edu/kel-b-mcclanahan
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MrHodja
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/23/2023 11:08:41 PM (updated 1/23/2023 11:10:46 PM)
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Sounds like McClanahan is a partisan hack. I go by what I read, not what someone else says. By the way, has Biden claimed to have declassified any of these documents?
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MartiniMan
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Sigh...yet another self own
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1/24/2023 8:15:47 AM
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Why a self own? Because your defense of Brandon exonerates Trump...and yet the FBI raided his office AFTER he claimed to have declassified the documents in his possession. So based on the U.S. Constitution and the EO referenced by this story then Trump is free and clear......and yet you say otherwise often. So which is it?
And considering Odipsh!t did this in 2009 I think you can dispense with the use of kindergaten (sic) civics heading. You must have been really desperate to search the internet for one local station that talked to one obscure guy to come up with an irrelevant opinion. You see Goofy, yet once again you are assuming facts not in existence.....that Brandon only took documents he personally classified or that he declassified them under this EO before he stole them. Considering we are weeks into this current scandal and they have not raised this defense (which Trump did from the outset), given all his cracker jack legal advice, I think we can dispense with this obscure interpretation as having anything to do with reality. But hey, good try.
Goofy, can you find another obscure local station talking to one law prof that also says a Senator can declassify anything and take it from a secured facility based on a 2009 EO? Was he the boss of whoever classified those documents? Yet another self own as your lack of some person claiming a Senator can also get away with stealing classified documents tells us what we all know.....he broke the law.
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MartiniMan
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Like not at all as I point out below
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1/24/2023 8:26:31 AM
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I literally laughed out loud at this so-called expert saying something that literally not one of Brandon's 57 lawyers has raised is "common knowledge". I can assure you if you examine this character you will find a dedicated Democrat partisan hack. But more to the point, while this would clearly exonerate Trump (not that he needed it because he didn't need an EC to be able to declassify anything he wants) it does nothing to address the classified docs Brandon stole as a Senator.
The problem with Goofy is his inability to think critically. He went and diligently scoured the internet and found some obscure guy telling some obscure local station what he wants to hear and rushes to post it. He does not ask some basic questions like does this undermine my previous claim that Trump broke the law? Or wonder why Biden, with all his high powered legal counsel, somehow hasn't raised this defense given that Mr. Obscure said it was longstanding common knowledge that everyone should know....apparently. Or maybe wonder whether this would apply to the documents he stole as a Senator. Nope......Goofy just blindly posts something he likes and wants to be true and HARRY, who apparently likewise lacks critical thinking skills, thinks Goofy has really got me. They are two peas on a pod of lack of intellectual rigor.
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phil
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/24/2023 8:44:40 AM (updated 1/24/2023 8:45:06 AM)
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GFY - "meaning Biden had the power declassify anything he classified."
So if Biden classified documents about Ukraine and Russia its fine - if the documents came from any other authority he is guilty of several crimes going back to his days as a senator.
So far from your posts it looks like you just put the death nail in the Trump documents investigation and added additional crimes to Biden - Trump was impeached for less by demonrats!
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MartiniMan
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/24/2023 9:03:06 AM
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Heh....Goofy thought he had me with that one and never recognized his self own. TDS does very bad things to people.
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Talullahhound
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Hmmmmmmmm
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1/24/2023 11:39:23 AM
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That is simply not true. He would only be able to declassify that which he originally classifed, as the classifying authority. If he wished to declassify something that had been classified by another classifying authority, he would have to go back to that original authority to have it declassified. It's really not a one man show.
What you are saying is that he has the same authority as the President. And I'm still not sure that the President has the authority to wave a magic wand and declassify anything he likes - because it goes back to the protection of means and sources which is the upmost of importance. Particularly when/if hyou are dealing with TS/SCI. I really don't know if the President and or VP are "read in" on all of the SCI programs. That's the reason they are specially compartmented, so that only a few people are read in.
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MrHodja
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A Quote From EO 13526
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1/24/2023 12:06:40 PM
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Hound you are right about stuff coming from the Intelligence Community. Here is the declassification text from 13526 regarding Intelligence information:
(c) The Director of National Intelligence (or, if delegated by the Director of National Intelligence, the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence) may, with respect to the Intelligence Community, after consultation with the head of the originating Intelligence Community element or department, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence relating to intelligence sources, methods, or activities.
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MartiniMan
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A Quote From EO 13526
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1/24/2023 12:16:42 PM
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Apparently according to Goofy and his source, everyone has the ability to declassify anything except President Trump.....because ya know, Orange Man bad. Funny that neither Biden nor his 57 lawyers have asserted this defense. Two possible explanations. One is they don't think it will help them because he didn't originally classify them nor did he declassify them before he took them. Two is that they know if they stake out this defense it would apply to Trump as well. I suspect it's a combination of the two but either way, it doesn't help them with the classified docs he stole as a Senator, both based on the timing and scope of the EO. Reality is that Brandon is in a world of hurt and the Special Prosecutor has his hands full in letting him off the hook without doing likewise for Trump.
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lakngulf
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Simple
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1/24/2023 12:43:24 PM (updated 1/24/2023 12:54:39 PM)
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Simple Solution: Both are quilty, as is Hilary. Convict all three and none of them can run for President.
And now Pence too. Should we search the Obamas and the Bushs?
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phil
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Simple
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1/24/2023 1:01:06 PM
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Get them all as well as all members of congress(living and dead) - as well as their families, friends, neighbors, any and all properties, boats, planes and any rentals they have used since they became politicians.
The world would be a better place with most politicans behind bars (D and R)
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GoneFishin
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Guilty as charged
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1/24/2023 3:43:39 PM
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You are finally correct about Pres. Trump and VP Biden taking documents except Trump did not return them without a search warrant. Big difference dude. As a Senator, that's a differnt story.
Now, we have Pence forgetting to wave his magic wand to declassify and test the regulation.
You and your puppets assume that Biden did not classify them. What do you know about the classified paper that no one else knows? Did Pence origionally classify them?
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phil
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Guilty as charged
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1/24/2023 4:01:22 PM (updated 1/24/2023 4:05:38 PM)
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Funny how Biden and his lawyers have not asserted that he was the classifaction authority, he could assert that he was and just make it go away, but he has not - because he knows he is not the authority on those documents that have been said to be about Ukraine, China and the UK that I have read about so far.
Keep digging that hole, its funny to watch you make excuses for all the ones that are (D)ifferent for some unknown reason.
You should become a lawyer and represent shoplifters/car jackers - as long as the item gets returned at some point, its all good - nothing to see here. X stole that car, but the police found it and returned it to its owner 9 years later. Since X didnt get a subpoena he is innocent of the charges!
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Talullahhound
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Guilty as charged
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1/24/2023 7:47:01 PM
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The more disturbing thing is why is this happening at all? TS/SCI is not supposed to be removed from the SCIFF. When I was working, my office was a SCIFF, so I could read classsified documents at my desk. There was a combination lock on my office door. So while I understand that their offices' might also be a SCIFF, but generally speaking, the intelligence manager in their offices, should have maintained control of antyhing TS/SCI.
So I question why classified documents would be sitting around in the office to be packed up by staffers. And I can understand if we were just talking about a couple of documents, but these large numbers? I think the WH needs to get new intelligence handling procedures. IF this was happening with anyone but high level politicians, people would be going to jail. That's why normal people, like me, make sure they are well versed in handling of classified material. Not to mention that you take a written oath to protect classified material.
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GoneFishin
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Hound
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1/24/2023 9:15:31 PM
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I would think that each classified document would have 3 numbers. The first is the department that classified it, the 2nd the year, and the third a consecutive number for each docment. Defense dept 01 the year 23, the document number, and the copy. The first one for the year from Defense going to the President would be 012311....From defense 01, issued in 2023, going to President 1, and the first copy 1
They would have to be accounted for at the end of a term.
Are they numbered now and who keeps the log?
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MrHodja
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Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility
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1/24/2023 10:52:30 PM
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So there are very strict rules about where Special Intelligence (SI) can be stored and how it is to be handled. The sheer mass of such information generated on a daily basis makes such a system as you propose to be laughingly unworkable. Goofy, in your Coastie days did you carry an SI clearance? Been in a SCIF? Ever been to the basement of the NSA headquarters buildng at Fort Meade, MD? If you had you wouldn't even try to suggest such a system would be effective or even workable. Ever been to a listening site? Seen the product of their skilled translatons of what is being said? Ever been on an Italian Navy ship cruising around in the Medierranean, outfitted with a large fiberglass shell housing multiple antennas and the receivers and skilled linguists to go with them? If you had done any of that you would know how sophomoric your suggestion would be.
To be clear, anyone who violates the rules for protecting classified information needs to be disciplined. The debate as to what has or hasn't been declassified will never be solved here. The President apparently has much more declassification authority than the VP, but the jury is out as to whether DJT indeed declassified the information he kept in Florida, and it is even murkier, or highly doubtful with regard to the classified documents Biden kept, especially stuff from his Senate days. I suspect Pence just kissed his presidential aspirations goodbye, whether he did or didn't violate any rules with what he had in Indiana.
By the way, did you get my email?
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MartiniMan
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Guilty as charged
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1/25/2023 8:53:09 AM
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No, Trump and the Archives were in the midst of negotiations about which documents had to be returned when they raided Mar-a-Lago. Imagine that, a difference of opinion between Trump and some bureaucrat partisan hack that organized a clearly politically motivated raid. So you are right that he broke the law as a Senator but not correct about what was going on when the raid was orchestrated.
As for your last sentence, I am presuming no such defense exists as none has been raised by his multitude of lawyers. You however have presumed said defense based on zero knowledge and contravening facts (i.e., not a defense raised). Mine is logical....yours is nonsense. Or maybe Brandon's 57 lawyers are all either ignorant of this "commonly known" EO loophole and/or they are incompetent or the more likely explanation is that they are aware and know it will not help Brandon. Common sense, logic, facts and reason.....try them some time Goofy.
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MartiniMan
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Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility
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1/25/2023 9:08:04 AM
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The best explanation I heard was an interview with Mike Pompeo. He said if you leave a classified document on your desk you get disciplined. If you take one home you get fired. And if you take one home and someone else sees it either intentionally or unintentionally you get prosecuted. Obviously he was painting with a broad brush but on that basis Biden should be in a world of hurt.
Did you see the emails Hunter was sending that contained very strategic sounding information about Ukraine and the UK? I am betting we could probably match it up to classified documents in the garage or wherever the big guy stored the stolen docs. If so, that fits the third case although given how cavalier he was with the storage of all these documents who knows how many people saw them. And where were the ones at UPenn in the year or more between him leaving office and them opening up the ChiCom money laundering office at Penn?
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lakngulf
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Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility
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1/25/2023 2:21:36 PM
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This will turn out about like the investigation a few years back into UNC basketball players getting crip grades in crip courses.
The investigation discovered that all students were able to do that so the players were not receiving any special favor not available to all students.
As usual in DC, everyone does it so that's the end.
My guess is that he Hunter investigation ran onto the Ukraine email where obviously crackBiden quoted classified information verbatim (hmmm that seems to be a Biden trait). So FBI needed to get their hands on those classified docs and get rid of them or else Hunter might be in trouble.
The beat goes on!
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GoneFishin
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Guilty as charged
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1/25/2023 3:03:15 PM
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"No, Trump and the Archives were in the midst of negotiations about which documents had to be returned when they raided Mar-a-Lago."
There were no negotiations when they conducted the raid. Trump's people had provided a Certification there were no other Classified documents.
June 3 — Jay Bratt, chief of the counterintelligence and export control section in the DOJ’s National Security Division, and three FBI agents visit Mar-a-Lago, where an attorney for Trump presents them with “a single Redweld envelope” containing documents “in a manner that suggested counsel believed that the documents were classified,” according to court filings. The agents also tour a storage room, which DOJ says contained about 50 to 55 boxes. Trump’s attorney tells the government agents that “all the records that had come from the White House were stored in one location – a storage room,” and “there were no other records stored in any private office space or other location at the Premises,” in the words of a DOJ court filing.
A person identified as the former president’s “custodian of records” hands the government officials at Mar-a-Lago “a signed certification letter” that says a “diligent search was conducted” for “all documents that are responsive to the subpoena.” It adds, “No copy, written notation, or reproduction of any kind was retained as to any responsive document,” the DOJ court filing said.
Aug. 5 — A federal magistrate judge in Florida, Bruce Reinhart, signs a search warrant for Mar-a-Lago “after finding probable cause that evidence of multiple federal crimes would be found at the Premises,” according to the judge’s order to unseal the affidavit.
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GoneFishin
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Hodja....Sensitive Compartmented Information
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1/25/2023 7:18:47 PM
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Since my suggestion is sophomoric, from your vast experience what would you suggest as a way to make certain all classified sent to the WH are returned? I guess one way is to send Trump to prison. If nothing happens to the 3, it will only tell future occupants of the WH not to worry. Bad message to send.?
As to receiving an email, you indicated prior to Thanksgiving you were going to send me an email which I have not received as to what I posted that was personal. This was the agreement rather than my calling again. The email is gonefishin2023@aol.com. Maybe, we can clear the air.
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MrHodja
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Hodja....Sensitive Compartmented Information
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1/25/2023 10:10:11 PM (updated 1/25/2023 10:21:54 PM)
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The email address you gave me back then was Robbie(plus more) and that is the one I used this time. Just forwared it to your new address.
You didn't answer my questions. As for what to do about politicians flaunting the rules the rest of us go to jail for violating I don't have an answer, but I do know that your answer won't do squat. Are you aware that the only method to prevent making copies of classified information is procedural? Under your system if they wanted a copy of a document they would just walk over to the copier and make one.
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MartiniMan
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Guilty as charged
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1/26/2023 8:06:57 AM
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Yes, his lawyers provided a cert that he had no other classified docs because what was left behind from the 15 boxes he returned were acccording to the guy that could do it, declassified. What precipitated the raid was an insider telling the Archives that there were still classified documents at the residence. This was incorrect according to Trump and his lawyers. There were still documents that were "labeled" classified and should have been relabeled but weren't. But why didn't the Archives reach out to him to ask about these documents? Because the partisan hack in charge, a now retired TDS sufferer, saw this as a great opportiunity to go out with a bang.
As for what the judge said, he relied on what was given to him by the DOJ. The old saying you can indict a ham sandwich applies here. Even less to get a subpeona for a raid that was totally unecessary.
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GoneFishin
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The Truth Shall Set You Free
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1/26/2023 12:40:45 PM
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"This was incorrect according to Trump and his lawyers." LOLLLLLLLLLLLL Trump and his 30,000 lies is now telling the truth!!!!LOLLLLLLL Next, you are going to repeat that Trump won and Jan 6th was just a friendly tour of the Capitol. You listen to he Pillow Man too much. Need to find another outlet.
According to the New York Post, a Murdoch paper on Sept 2,2022:
A government inventory of items seized at Mar-a-Lago included a number of classified documents — and dozens of folders marked “classified” that were empty.
54 documents removed from the Palm Beach, Fla., resort were marked “SECRET,” 31 were labeled “CONFIDENTIAL” and another 18 were called “TOP SECRET.”
Agents also took 48 empty folders labeled with “CLASSIFIED” banners while another 42 empty folders were labeled “Return to Staff Secretary/Military Aide.” It is not clear from the inventory list why the folders were empty.
Of the “TOP SECRET” government records, seven were found in a container in Trump’s office and 11 others were found inside a Mar-a-Lago storage room.
Meanwhile, 17 “SECRET” documents were found in Trump’s office and 37 inside the storage room, according to the list.
Just The Facts
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MartiniMan
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Answer above immediately below your deleted post
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1/26/2023 1:22:48 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA
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1/26/2023 3:02:26 PM
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Now according to cnnBS Biden originally denied DOJ access to search and only relented when they told him they would get a warrant. The more we learn the worse it gets for Brandon. Note: Since the source was cnnBS it is entirely possible it could be wrong. It is also true that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn and over the last 10-15 years cnnBS has on occasion committed a random act of journalism.
I think the long knives in the Dem party are not wanting Dementia Joe to run in 2024......they better watch out for "Dr." Jill....he!! hath no fury....
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GoneFishin
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HAHAHAHAHA
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1/26/2023 8:11:01 PM
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Trump, Biden, Pence, My opoinion is they all broke the law. Your opinion Biden and Pence broke the law. Time will tell.
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MartiniMan
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Let me clarify my view on this
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1/27/2023 3:59:12 PM
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I thought the Trump thing was BS from the get go just like all the other false accusations against him. Treat him like every other POTUS and VPOTUS over the last 50 years and this would not have been an issue. Heck, the Archives is still negotiating with the Nixon library on documents 50 years later.....that's a fact stated by Hugh Hewitt who is head of the library. The documents were secured at one location with secret service protection with additional security added to the storage facility at the request of the FBI after their visit. These discussions could have gone on for the next 10 years and it would not have mattered to national security or anyone else in America.
But no, the National Archives head was a partisan Democrat Trump hater and decided to get DOJ involved. Because DOJ is likewise run at the top levels with Democrat partisan hacks they stupidly let their TDS get the best of them and did something unprecedented because you know, Orange Man bad, I have TDS and must stop Trump and become a hero to leftists everywhere. Seemed like a good idea at the time.....just like most really dumb ideas.
But oh oh!!! Turns out Brandon did the same thing and even worse. He has no defense. His documents weren't secure. No one knows who had access to them. He has held onto them for over 7 years. So now the partisan hack morons at DOJ are in a pickle of their own idiotic making. Now they treat Biden the same way....sort of....not really until the leaks happened about letting Biden's attorneys do what we now know were incomplete searches...and they finally did something. And now we find out Pence has documents. Soon we will find out that all of them took classified documents (Obama, Bush, Cheney, Quayle). Every single one of them! You know why? Because that's what they do and have always done...long before Trump.
So now what is DOJ gonna do? Appoint 7 special prosecutors??? Treat all of them differently....as in only go after Trump? Start raiding their offices? This whole mess is one of their own making and in my opinion a complete waste of time and resources. If I had my way, I would offer blanket amnesty to the lot of them to produce and return classified documents and be done with this. But they won't because they hate Trump so much that they are willing to make us look like some 3rd world banana republic run by a bunch of morons. But I'm here to tell you if Obama has classified documents this will all go away because the Messiah cannot be sacrificed just to get Trump. Brandon? Oh heck yes. But not Obama.
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