Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 8:44:28 AM

The WHO has now stated that healthy people should ONLY WEAR MASKS WHEN TREATING COVID PATIENTS.  Hmm, wonder why the change of postion?  Will the REAL Nazi's (Dem Govenors) take note and stop with the silly mandatory mask rules?  Somehow I doubt it.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 8:47:58 AM

I saw that too and wondered "Who you gonna call?"

WHO and CDC differ on their recommendations.  And funny that the following picture is the ad on this very page

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	A Review of the Science Relevant to COVID-19
Date:	5/29/2020 8:52:13 AM

Perhaps one should review the science and history of corona virus and flue epedemics.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340570735_Masks_Don't_Work_A_review_of_science_relevant_to_COVID-19_social_policy

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 9:34:29 AM

Its an ad based on what you have surfed recently.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 9:38:23 AM

The whole mask thing has been a moving target from the get go.  Recall early on we were told to not use them so health care professionals would have enough supply.  Made sense.  Later we were told it was a good idea to wear masks despite the absence of any studies or evidence that it was helpful.  We use Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) in our business so I happen to know quite a bit about it.  I can assure you that the cloth masks and even the surgical masks are about 5% effective.  There is a reason why health care providers that are ill are asked to stay home....they know the masks don't protect them or the patient.  And there's a reason why scientists working with infectious diseases where Level A protection with full face respirators, supplied air and nitrile gloves and suits that are sealed.  If these masks provided any real, substantive protection that's all they would need, right?  Except it's not.

So for those that know how this works, they understand the reality that masks are nothing more than a feel good thing and unless you practice all the other measures they are basically worthless.  So for the government it is all about appearances versus actual results.....so typical.  I'll wear a mask if and only if there is a place I want or need to go that requires it.  I will not wear one just to falsely make other people feel better or safer when I know it's not even remotely true.  In fact, I actually believe that for most people it does more harm than good.  They get a false sense of security because they are wearing a mask and are less diligent with the other measures that can actually make a difference.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 10:13:43 AM

I have not surfed for masks

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 10:40:06 AM

From an article in the New England Journal of medicine:

"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic."

Cite:

May 21, 2020

N Engl J Med 2020; 382:e63
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2006372

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 10:44:09 AM

May be regular ad, notice similar all over when wife searches for something that item starts poping up all over every website.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 10:47:25 AM

I don't care if you wear a mask or not.  When the CDC says I don't need to wear a mask, then I will stop.  I just wonder why those of you who don't wear a mask are so bothered by those of us that do. 

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 11:31:13 AM

Because most who do wear complain about those who don't.....or at least more vocal.

My stance is "if mask required to do what I want to do, to enter where I want to enter, then I wear. Otherwise no"

Name:	PTClakefan -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 11:52:09 AM

"When the CDC says I don't need to wear a mask, then I will stop."

Of course; after all, the CDC has been so consistent with their advice and recomendations in regard to Covid-19.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 12:17:49 PM (updated 5/29/2020 12:33:40 PM)

As I've said repeatedly, if wearing a mask makes someone feel better then by all means wear one.  But don't get a false sense of security and relax on the other more effective measures like social distancing and hand washing.  But it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to find videos or posts of politicians and others shaming those that don't, calling them murderers, irresponsible, etc.  That is anti-science and non-sensical.  And indeed, there are mask Nazi's trying to shame others and worse for not acting like mindless sheep.  So no, we could care less if anyone wears a mask.  Just don't try to berate or shame others that follow the science and we'll get along just fine.

And just so you know, the CDC has stated that masks offer little protection from infection and should only be worn in instances where social distancing isn't possible.  So their position is that they don't do any good but if you want to wear one only do so when you can't maintain social distance.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	All you mask nazi's
Date:	5/29/2020 2:18:41 PM

I haven't berated anyone about not wearing a mask, but I won't invite you into my home.  I'll talk to you outside on my porch and we'll be properly social distanced.  When Alabama stops adding 300-500 cases a day and the hospitals aren't full, then I will stop taking precautions.  As far as I know, nothing that I am doing should be offensive to anyone else.  

Those that say that the CDC has not been consistent - well, I think that is to be expected, as the situation evolves and they learn more about the virus.  I don't see any problem with that.  I don't see any problem with the revision of the forecasts of the number of cases either.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	MM
Date:	5/29/2020 2:23:23 PM

CDC.gov is still recomend that you cover your face when out in public - in addition to social distancing, washing your hands, and not touching your face.  I'm not sure what you are reading.  I just went back and checked it to make sure that I was still current.  

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Mask”s huge benefit
Date:	5/29/2020 2:37:06 PM

It keeps dimokraps from pickin’ their nose in public.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Right from the CDC website
Date:	6/1/2020 8:12:05 AM

"CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission." (emphasis added). 

Exactly what I stated.  Wearing a mask is only recommended, not required, when you can't maintain social distancing. 

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	There you go again
Date:	6/1/2020 9:28:30 AM

Introducing FACTS into an emotional argument.  WebMaster ban this entity ( I wouldn't want to use an improper pronoun so I just use the non-bianary "entity" ) immediately!! We can't have this type of instagation and intimidation on the forum.  Someone alert the authorities.  Call the alphabet agencies, all 17 intelligence agencies, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, Twitter and Facebook too.  This entity must be cancelled right now. I demand the Forum Manager respond.  If not we should all burn our computers at midnght.

Just kidding of course.  Forum has been very boring lately so I decided to stir some puddin'...lol.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	LOL
Date:	6/1/2020 9:34:42 AM

I don't get the argument about this because I have stated over and over again that if it makes you feel better wear a dang mask.  But I've also pointed out the scientific fact that it does little to protect you and can cause harm if it gives a false sense of security and you are not diligent with the measures that actually make a difference.  Mask wearing during the Spanish Flu in the early 1900s was likewise required and did almost nothing to stem the spread of that form of influenza.  There was an intersting photo recently from the stands at a Georgia Tech game during the Spanish flu.....almost everyone was wearing a mask.  It didn't matter.

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	LOL
Date:	6/1/2020 10:09:29 AM

I think the mask do way more harm than any good.  If you wear the same mask all day or any extended period of time you are creating a warm moist environment right in front of your air intake source.  You exhale bacteria with every breath so if your mask is even a little restrictive of air flow you can easily build growing colony in no time.  Not to mention the potential to re-inhale those same bacteria.

Everyones lungs are full of DEADLY bacteria.  Our healthy bodies just keep them in check most AIDS deaths are due to pnuemonia from a bacteria found in all our lungs (at least they were, havent seen those stats in years). Pnuemocistitis Caranii (sp?) takes over because of imune defiecencies.  Also comon in chemo and others who are imuno supressed.  

So the real quetions is WHY the masks?  All the professionals no it does LESS than no good but go along with the charade.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	LOL
Date:	6/1/2020 4:29:26 PM

I don't go places where there is a lot of opportunity for social distancing.  And even why one tries to social distance in the grocery store or even in Costco, there are always unaware idiots glued to their phones that have no sense of time and space around them.  I have'nt returned to eating out or going to the hair and nail salon or to wandering around in stores.  Alabama's number continue to rise, but when they level or start to decline, I will reconsider.  I don't work, and I have the luxury of being able to sit on my porch and look at the lake and enjoy nature.  I don't know that I have enjoyed it as much other years as I am this year.  

Even a little bit of protection is better than no protection at all.  That's my viewpoint.