Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/27/2015 9:25:22 AM

Despite some promising economic signs, there are also a slew of data that seems to indicate we may be headed into another recession.  As I have pointed out before, the average length between recessions is 54 months and we are well beyond that timeframe.  While I put the blame for the anemic recovery squarely on dear leader and his feckless domestic economic policies the next recession will not be his fault any more than the prior one was Bush's.  But if we do enter a recession it will harm Billary's chances just like the recession at the end of Bubba's second term hurt Algore.  And TOTUS will be blamed for the recession if it happens.

Billary was already in trouble because she has her fingerprints all over the multitude of foreign affairs failures and her lack of even one real accomplishement as a Senator or SOS.  A recession will likewise tar her with Obola's domestic policies and her remarks in favor of Obamacare will also haunt her.  If the recession does hit I suspect that her entire campaign will be based solely on her gender.  And sadly it could still work given the low information voters out there and the likelihood that the GOP will once again give us a RINO candidate causing 5 million conservatives to stay home.

As much as I think Billary would be Obola's 3rd term and the worthless Peanut Farmer's 5th term, I am really hoping the signs of trouble are wrong.  But hey, the 1% are loving the stock market numbers as the gap between the rich and the dependent grows ever larger under the current regime.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/27/2015 10:21:00 AM

You know, MM, I saw the title of your post and expected some thoughtful insight  and instead, found a vaguely paranoid rambling about Hiliary Clinton.  Sometimes you disappoint me. 

You and I both know that Hiliary's chances of becoming President depend squarely on if the Republicans can find someone competent to run against her (although I personally don't believe that she is golden to become the Democratic nominee).   I personally don't like Hiliary and never have. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Sorry to disappoint you but.....
Date:	2/27/2015 11:26:34 AM (updated 2/27/2015 11:28:13 AM)

Hound, it wasnt my intention to provide all the data that suggests we may be headed into a recession.  Anyone can go onto the internet and read the prognosticators of doom and gloom and their basis for being so bearish.  My intent with this post was to discuss the potential political implications if indeed we do exerperience another recession before the 2016 campaign, which I think is more likely than not.   

I do agree with you completely about the right GOP candidate being able to beat Hillary although I suspect we will not agree on who that is.  I would want a true conservative that can communicate and convince the unwashed masses in the middle and you would probably prefer someone else, but I'm just guessing.  I do strongly believe that if we have a McCain/Romney type far too many conservatives will sit at home and we will lose again like the last two cycles.  I will not be one of them because I am always for the lesser of two evils and understand that it is not a perfect world.  But there are lots of conservatives that don't think that way and are willing to lose on principal.  Its sad to say but true.

I don't agree with you that she isn't a lock to be the nominee.  But then again, I thought the same thing in 2008 so you never know.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Sorry to disappoint you but.....
Date:	2/27/2015 1:37:27 PM

Well so far we know about Rand Paul, Perry from Texas, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and then there is Chris Christie and Donald Trump.. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone  - Scott Walker? 

For me, I want to hear some specifics about how they will deal with the problems.  I'm not going to be happy with anyone who gives the broad brush about fighting ISIS or the economy.  I'm not in the market for happy thoughts.  I would consider voting for a true conservative if he/she had specific plans that seemed reasonable.  I am not interested in hearing someone say that they want to reduce the size of government without specifics about what they want to do, why and how they would go about it.  I'm not taken in by gender discussion - while I obviously believe in equal pay, etc, being out of the workforce, these are no longer key issues for me.  If someone wants to talk about immigration, I want to hear specifically how they intend to deal with the problem. And if they want to do away with Obamacare, fine, but I want to know exactly what they are going to do about the problem of the uninsured.  That problem has not gone away, and will not go away, just because they abolish Obamacare. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	I agree....
Date:	2/27/2015 2:04:38 PM

I too would like to hear the things you want to hear and regarding Obamacare it should be repeal and replace with sensible reforms that are specific and listed.  Unforntunately in this 24/7/365 news cycle we live in candidates are loathe to go on the record with specifics because it leaves them open to the proverbial rectal exam of everything they say.  I suspect it will be more platitudes than specifics for quite a while.  I am holding my powder until the field solidifes a lot more than we currently see.

You could add the following names to your list:  Huckabee, Carly Fiorina, Mike Pence, John Kasich, Susan Martinez, Lindsey Graham, Bobby Jindel and so on.  My guess is the early debates will have as many as 20 candidates on the stage.  It will be interesting to see where the cream rises.  By  the way, Scott Walker is leading the polls in Iowa right now, albeit at around 25% or so.

Name:	h_hob -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/27/2015 3:07:28 PM

Hound,

The only reason you don't like Billary is, "She challenges your pentagon bred masculinity."

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	As if on cue...Q4 GDP at 2.2%
Date:	2/27/2015 3:43:56 PM

Not good and as always worse than expected.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/27/2015 9:44:12 PM

C'mon Hob.  Uncalled for.  Address the message, not the messenger.

Name:	h_hob -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/27/2015 9:59:13 PM

I would be more than happy to address the message were the messenger not so assinine in their views in the past.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/28/2015 5:58:27 PM

A squid attacks the messenger.....you have to have a brain to address the message. 

Name:	h_hob -	Reply
Subject:	More signs of a recession coming
Date:	2/28/2015 7:46:03 PM

Yes you are right GFY.  Who would dare to challenge your position or the position of the "Busy Ditch?'  (Sarcasm intended.)