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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Terrorist attack in Boston
Date:   4/15/2013 9:21:09 PM

pmsnBS has already declared it was right wing extremists. Got to hand it to them, their ability to do the wrong thing all the time is probably their own redeeming quality. Will be interesting to see how this develops. My prediction is that the govt is going to work overtime to try and prove its anyone but Islamofascists. I mean, they can't hate us anymore, right? And if they do determine it was, they will go out of their way to talk about anything else and the govt media will go right along.....sort of like the non coverage of the abortion murderer in Philly. Doesn't fit the template, may make us or el presidente look bad.....must hide the truth. Time will tell but if we are waiting on the Feds to tell us what is happening, all I can say is we are still waiting to see what really happened in Benghazi.......don't hold your breath.



Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   Terrorist attack in Boston
Date:   4/15/2013 9:36:24 PM


Hoping to hear the truth from the left wing news media is like waiting for Archiebelle to answer questions.



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Second Class...
Date:   4/15/2013 10:00:31 PM

Islamists...whoops...can't say that...Muz..whoops cant' say that...sand...whoops can't say that....shucks. Bad Folks!




Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   Second Class...
Date:   4/15/2013 10:24:31 PM


I'll bet I know what fits after sand. 



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   More like steerage!!
Date:   4/16/2013 8:58:23 AM (updated 4/16/2013 9:00:33 AM)

MM's post...just what one would expect...after all he is "so predictable"
Hob Snob and Rosie...sadly also what one would expect while hoping that, after this type of horror, they would at least show a bit of class and perhaps even restraint.

I'll  wait for those who know what they are doing to establish the facts.



Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   More like steerage!!
Date:   4/16/2013 9:34:56 AM


Just like you're waiting for the laying on of hands or the Atlanta school district to heal without outside intervention.  Sit and watch don't even think about it the present administration will tell you what to think.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Dont you find it disturbing?
Date:   4/16/2013 12:20:25 PM

How about the guy at the NYT claiming it was caused by Republicans refusing to confirm the head of ATF?  Don't you think its sick that Axelrod said Obama thinks its related to tax day?  The bodies aren't even cold and the left's initial reaction is to try to blame the right for this with zero facts.  How often have they been wrong?!?!?  How may of the mass murderers are leftists but the govt media tried to blame the right with no factual basis?

Yeah, its predictable that I would find them sickening and its predictable that you probably are secretly hoping they are right..  Steerage indeed........



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Dont you find it disturbing?
Date:   4/16/2013 1:38:28 PM (updated 4/16/2013 1:47:28 PM)

" Don't you think its sick that Axelrod said Obama thinks its related to tax day? " Axelrod was just speaking like Limbaugh does daily. Obama never said it. You need to get Hob Snob to help you before  you post proofing for facts.

Now this is a fact>>>>>>>>>>>
WASHINGTON — Conservative GOP Rep. Steve King of Iowa is urging a cautious approach to immigration in light of the deadly blasts in Boston.





Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Second Class...
Date:   4/16/2013 2:44:17 PM

Surfer...what else?



Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   Dont you find it disturbing?
Date:   4/16/2013 2:47:59 PM


I don't know what was really said by obama but Axelrod apparently insinuated such.  Please look at this article.  Has obama ever lied about anything in the past?  You can almost bet if his mouth is moving he isn't eating, he more apt to be lying.  Please read the attached article then tell us about what kind of wool you sheep are peddling today.

URL: obama insider attempts to link Boston bombing to tax day.

Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   Second Class...
Date:   4/16/2013 2:54:00 PM


Bad on me, I guess I'm just not following the politically correct world close enough.  Story of my life, always out of step with liberal slugs.  They tend to leave a trail of slime and I tend to call a duck a duck.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   What about Axelrod wasn't a fact?
Date:   4/16/2013 4:53:21 PM

The article is below and at least we provided a reference.  Not sure where yours came from but I will stipulate that this was a stupid comment even though I am not going to confirm its accuracy.

But lets see which is worse...some obscure congressman from Iowa or the President of the U.S.?!?!?  I recognize TOTUS has diminished the office of POTUS but really.....that much??!!?  Honestly GF, this is not a case of moral equivalency between POTUS and some GOP congressman.....except maybe to the loony left........



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   This is a fact
Date:   4/16/2013 8:56:10 PM

"but Axelrod apparently insinuated such" Axelrod is a commentator just like Limbaugh. It was his opinion not a statement from Obama. That is a fact.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Uh huh........
Date:   4/16/2013 9:46:45 PM

Nice try GF, but Axelrod is plugged into the Messiah and I have no doubt that he actually knows what he is talking about.  This is very typical of the left......deny what is really happening just like Obama running against his own programs and policies.......



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Uh huh........
Date:   4/16/2013 10:14:01 PM

 "I have no doubt"  You criticize Acrh for lack of facts and then use a blue sky metaphor and expect it to fly. I too have no doubt that you are just singing in the rain. You despise Obama and your attempt to show us that there is no doubt in your mind should become the norm. Your mind is cooked from signing too many tax froms and it don't fly with those of us with even half a brain. Even Hob Snob and Wixie Pooh are embarrassed by your new norm "I have no doubt".............LOL



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah right.....
Date:   4/16/2013 10:39:47 PM

What Obama's chief advisor said Obama said is blue sky....keep on dreaming GF.......I know it makes you feel so much better.  Axelrod said Obama said it.....deal with it dude.....



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Yeah right.....
Date:   4/16/2013 11:08:17 PM

"Axelrod said Obama said it....." Show me the article so I can apologize.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   .
Date:   4/16/2013 11:08:36 PM (updated 4/16/2013 11:09:40 PM)






Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   See above for the article
Date:   4/16/2013 11:38:30 PM

You choose to call Axelrod a liar......based on how Obama has responded to previous incidents like this I find his explanation totally plausible.......what strange bedfellows.......GF now claims Axelrod is making this up.......curiouser and curiouser.....

Only wish we knew Axelrod was a liar before 2008 and 2012........



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   .
Date:   4/16/2013 11:39:11 PM

Does "." mean something or have you had too much to drink?



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   A few observations
Date:   4/17/2013 8:11:20 AM (updated 4/17/2013 8:32:48 AM)

1.   I read the article written by a rightwing blogger and talker...even in the article there is no direct statement that "Axelrod said Obama said"...I also listened to the video clip (did y'all?) and heard a reasonable man make a reasonable statement  and I cannot see how even the absolute most biased rightwing nut could interpret as him saying for himself "this was a rightwing job" much less him saying Obama said "this is related to tax day".

2.   Is there any among you who will be less outraged if it turns out this was not an Islamist attack but rather some rightwing militia action ala Tim McVeigh?  What will be the reaction of the Lake Martin crowd if it does turn out to be an anti-tax group or individual responsible?  I mean really, will some of you actually at least think in your heart of hearts "well they used the wrong means but I agree with their message."  I would hope for an emphatic NO, but based on some of the off the wall rhetoric about today's politics in America that gets posted on this forum, I truly have to wonder.

3.   MM has obviously fallen off the "civility" wagon

4.   Are you people completely NUTS?  For God sake quit putting words and ideas out that only inflame the situation! It's time to let the people who know what they are doing to, hopefully, get to the bottom of this.  Now is not the time for anybody, LEFT or RIGHT, to be yelling FIRE in the theater! 

5.   Now I guess MM will come back and point out that my no 2 comment is not in line with no 4...well he is probably right, but no 2 is an honest opinion which is based on the invective which is such a part of this forum on a daily basis, an opinion that I sincerely hope is a false. I would welcome some real evidence that it is incorrect. We are all Americans who want the best for the nation but disagree on the road leading us there. It is often fun to disagree on this and that but it is disheartening that we cannot agree to keep council to ourselves until the facts are known in such a grave situation as Boston.




Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   And now for a dose of reality
Date:   4/17/2013 8:22:32 AM

I heard it several times.  He ABSOLUTELY indicated that was one scenario being considered.  Archie I guess it is real easy to bury your head in the sand since you are at the beach, but you do so well no matter where you are.



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Well "DUH"
Date:   4/17/2013 8:36:47 AM

Do you think it is a scenario that should be ignored?????...See what I mean people!!!!



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   A few observations
Date:   4/17/2013 8:58:23 AM

Cmon Archie, we all know to what he was referring when he mentioned tax day. If it turns out to be Islamofscists, perhaps you could explain to us why they picked that day of all days. Maybe a better question is why are they running the Boston Marathon on tax day. I think we will find out, assuming they find the perp, that if the Boston Marathon had not been run on tax day they would have still selected the day the race was run as opposed to blowing up a mostly empty street. Duh! My anger is directed at Americans who are blaming other Americans either overtly or subtly when they have no frigging idea who did this. If someone wants to intelligently speculate it should clearly be of Islamofascists. That at least makes sense given that 95% of these events in the last 10-15 years have been perpetrated by these nut jobs and an equal percentage of terrorist events disrupted were planned by Islamofascists. And no, I am not using the term 95% literally as it could be plus or minus. And no, I am not off the civility bandwagon because I never said I would be civil to GF. In fact, I think I specifically stated he was fair game because he gives as well as he gets and is not whiney.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Well "DUH"
Date:   4/17/2013 9:29:41 AM

Archie, clearly no possibility should be ignored.  But that doesn't mean people in responsible positions should be speculating about who is responsible. 

But now we have Salon magazine hoping and praying its a white man. That is worthy of our anger that a popular left wing magazine overtly cheers for it to be an American citizen. Personally I hope its an Islamofascist because at least then I can make some sense out of this.  They hate America and want to terrorize us and have done this before all over the world.  If its some domestic terrorist or just some nut job it will be all that harder to understand how someone that lives in the greatest country the world has ever known could have so little respect for human life.



Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Another observation
Date:   4/17/2013 10:16:34 AM

OK MM, if you can speculate that this would have occurred at the Boston Marathon no matter what the day, then let me speculate (I hate to do this because it makes no sense for either of us to do so)...is it be possible that the fact this happened at the Boston Marathon on April 15th rather than at another big national event one week earlier in Atlanta at the Final Four add any weight to the case that the Tax Day angle should at least be one of the theories to be strongly and thoroughly investigated? Probably not, but if you are going accuse people of making wild speculations and then make them yourself...well be so fair as to speculate all angles and possibilities.



Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   Another observation
Date:   4/17/2013 12:41:14 PM


Since when do opinions need to be "fair?"  Yours aren't, your opinions are all slanted and biased.  I don't think I need point out the positions you hold and have printed here that are slanted and biased.  You seem to delight in showing you are anything except conservative.  Go back to school and see if your professors will give your degree in interior decoration.  Were you to do that and accomplish your artistic goals maybe you would come off your high horse.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   . MM
Date:   4/17/2013 2:30:47 PM

Of course it has meaning. Have I ever posted anything without meaning???????Any independent thinker will have no difficulty understanding the relationship. Are you an independent thinker  or are you just a parrot fo every right wing blog??????? Now think "."?????????



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 2:53:10 PM

Forum rule 2: "Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) non-sense posts. "



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 2:58:38 PM

Dock?



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 3:00:15 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, OVER!



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 3:47:11 PM

Can't have a Charlie Foxtrot without one...



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 4:43:06 PM

Gee, your minds are working overtime. Now, tell me what does Whiskey Tango Foxtrot mean??????? Is there a hidden message????? Or, possibly profanity??? No way, WTF must be some right wing code that only the good guys know....The moral good guys. Kinda like Foxtrot Oscar another brilliant code.

You guys use these terms around family or just on the Forum??????????

All I can say in response is "."!





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   That or he didn't bother to read the Forum Rules
Date:   4/17/2013 4:55:25 PM

Indeed!



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You obviously don't understand
Date:   4/17/2013 5:01:58 PM

I don't care if you or GF or me or Joe the Plumber speculates about this. My point is that those in govt and those in the govt media have a special obligation because of their respective roles and that they should not be speculating. Your opinion about the possible perp is not entirely unreasonable but I think less likely than mine based on historical facts. But is it possible? Of course. As is mine and maybe we will find out the truth. But neither you nor I are part of the govt or the govt media. If I were I would refrain from speculating and would expect the same from you if you were likewise. This is really not that difficult and I am not sure why you are not able to grasp a very simple point. Of course you are free to disagree and I am likewise free to think you are wrong. Clearly not the first time or the last.







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