Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/25/2017 4:54:20 PM

What better day to talk about babies than on Christmas?  I find the Kasich Ohio Abortion Law about babies with Down Syndrone as quite interesting.  Is this discrimination? If I am a baby with six fingers I can be aborted? But not if Down?   Seems to me an admission of a "person", and let's not kill this person.  This baby has a legal protection.

I say let's have a law that protects all babies!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/25/2017 7:32:30 PM

I don't know what Ohio's Abortion Law is.  But I support a woman's right to choose and I have for the last 40 years.  I realize this is not a mainstream Republican point of view, but it's what I believe.  When men start getting pregnant and bearing babies, then they can make the rules.  It's easy to say what someone else should do, when you aren't standing in their shoes.  The vast majority of abortions are not made as a casual decision; it is a heart wrenching decision for most women and they deserve the right to decide.  If someone doesn't believe in abortion, than they shouldn't have one and no one will ever force them to.  

Name:	Moldyoldy -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/25/2017 11:48:58 PM

I agree, t. And as long as males are the only ones who can be drafted and forced to sacrifice their bodies for national defense, they should be the only ones who can vote in federal elections.

Name:	Rich -	Reply
Subject:	Not that simple
Date:	12/26/2017 4:45:52 AM

I havs always believed in an individuals right over their own body but the left couldn't leave it at that. My wife was a surgical RN her whole career and when the laws got written it imposed many tough decisions on people who held religious objections to abortion. I do not want tax payerer money funding abortion as I feel it tacitly means I am a prponent. Let the truth come out about the people behind planned parenthood and lets revisit this at the ballot box. I am disappointed that we need a law to affirm what was given us with the Consttution. I still believe in an individuals right over their own body but not infringing on others legitimate objections to preforming or indorcing the procedures.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/26/2017 7:50:18 AM

This is a little different.  It has thrown a wrench into the gut wrenching decision.  This plays off Denmark,or some country over there, that ruled all Down Syndrone babies would be aborted.  Ohio is now saying basically, if a baby is diagnosed with Down then baby CANNOT be aborted.  A protective right for a baby, with a certain condition. That removes mother's right to choose.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/26/2017 11:25:53 AM

This is the problem I have with that law.  Unless the state wants to make each baby born with Down's Syndrome a ward of the state, with the state paying for all care, then let the parents decide.  I have a friend whose daughter was born with Down's Syndrome and Autism.  Since she was born, she has had to have special medical care, special babysitters, special education.  She cannot live at home, because when she hit puberty, she became unmanageable and was put in a special school in Tallassee to learn occupational therapy.  She aged out of that at 21, so now she lives in a group home.  She will never be able to live on her own, never be able to support herself or take care of herself.  She is eligible for Medicaid, but cuts to Medicaid threaten to unfund her.  She will never be a functioning member of society.  Her parents made the deicison not to abort.  But what happens when her parents are no longer around?  They are closing down on the public facilities and there are not many private facilities for people like her.  She is in her twenties now, but her parents are in their 60s.  What will happen to her when they are gone?  it's all fine well and good to decide to "save" the baby, but what is the longterm, reality for these kids? (I realize that there is a spectrum of disability with regard to Down's Syndrome and some people do progress to the point that they can live alone and hold jobs and support themselves.)

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Not that simple
Date:	12/26/2017 11:43:30 AM

I understand what you are saying.  But does that put us on the slippery slope of Pharmacists that can refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control pills, becasue they are Catholic and don't believe in birth control, or fill prescriptions for anti-depressants because they don't believe in them?  And if there a difference if they run a privately owned drug store or work for one of the big chains.  

Now, I can perfectly understand when it involves partial birth abortions, unless the woman's health is at risk or unrepairable birth defects are found during the pregnancy.  it would seem to me in a reasonable society, if a medical professional does not wish to participate in a procedure, on religious grounds, they should not be forced to do so.  Many private Drs did not perform abortions even though it was legal, simply becasue they either did not agree with them, or that they feared repercussions with anti-abortion groups.  Some legitmately feared for their lives. To me, there is a big difference between abortion up to 12 weeks that mrerely involves a D&C, vice the partial birth abortion that is done from 13 weeks on.  And maybe that is what needs to be rethought.  

I don't know that Planned Parenthood should be federally funded.  I do know that they provide health care services for woman with no medical insurance and who can't afford a regular doctor.  Abortion is really only a small part of their business, although it is the most talked about and debated.  

Perhaps it is time to revisit the question, since there are now many more options for birth control, and even a morning after pill.  There is the French abortion drug that is not currently legal in their country, that induces abortion without medical supervision - a woman buys the pill, takes it and it induces a spontaneous abortion. I don't know, but I suspect there is a limitation to it, since it could become a medical emergency.  

Name:	Rich -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/26/2017 4:50:28 PM

While I disagree about PP offering other services (most often it amounts to a referral) you've brought up good issues. Problem is I think that the ethical and moral issues are too personal for the state to get involved with. What if we had no laws for or against and no penalty for non treatment let PP and those that believe that strongly hire the health care and raise their own funds. I've noticed when big goverment types have to spend their own money they lose their zeal.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Ohio Abortion Law
Date:	12/26/2017 9:18:53 PM

I thought they had cut all federal funding to PP?  Yes, big govenment types do not want to spend their own money.  Both conservatives and liberals want to spend, it just a difference on what they want to spend it on.    

I'm okay if they want to stop federal funds for abortion and for birth control.  But I think all women should have a right to mammograms, pap smears and other very basic healthcare - whether health care professionals provide their services pro bono or for a modest fee.