Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Jan 6th part 2
Date:	5/18/2022 1:14:30 PM

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/18/supreme-court-abortion-roe-protests-violence?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=politics-abortion

The U.S. government is bracing for a potential surge in political violence once the Supreme Court hands down the ruling that's expected to overturn Roe v. Wade, according to a Department of Homeland Security memo obtained by Axios.

The big picture: Law enforcement agencies are investigating social-media threats to burn down or storm the Supreme Court building and murder justices and their clerks, as well as attacks targeting places of worship and abortion clinics.

Can not wait until it happens and we can get lectured by GFY and Antifatech how that is different the Jan 6th.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Jan 6th part 2
Date:	5/18/2022 2:39:51 PM

Nah...it'll be mostly peaceful rioting, looting and murdering....nothing to see here.  The thing that astounds me is the insane devotion to the right to kill a baby in the womb.  Pure evil....satanic.  These people are possessed.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Jan 6th part 2
Date:	5/18/2022 3:27:38 PM

You left out fiery

Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	Divide The Baby
Date:	5/18/2022 9:29:11 PM

It is very simple: Liberals want abortions.Conservatives do not. Pass law that we only abort liberal babies. Every body happy?

Name:	Old Diver -	Reply
Subject:	Divide The Baby
Date:	5/18/2022 9:29:37 PM

It is very simple: Liberals want abortions.Conservatives do not. Pass law that we only abort liberal babies. Every body happy?

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Divide The Baby
Date:	5/18/2022 10:30:50 PM

Works for me……can we go back some decades and cleanse some dimokrap mis-screws?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Divide The Baby
Date:	5/19/2022 8:51:42 AM (updated 5/19/2022 8:52:56 AM)

That or we segregrate the country - but sadly neither will work as the insane liberals want an all or nothing.

Just look at the capital hearing recently with Raskin who was questioning someone on capital hill regarding exceptions for rape and incest abortions. When the person testifying indicated if they added the exceptions would he then be willing to vote for it - "reclaiming my time" and no other answer - just goes to show that it was not about the rape or incest.  If you were raped why the hell would you not go ahead and take a day after pill just to make sure that you did not get pregnant to start with, Why would you wait 3-9 months to make that decision?!?

The only way to make a liberal happy is just to have no opinion, be quiet and let them do and have 100% of what they want.  There can be no compromise with the insane.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Divide The Baby
Date:	5/19/2022 9:03:32 AM

Or since liberals cannot define a woman, or apparently when a person becomes a human can we just start to abort liberals of any age since we can not define what makes them human to start with?   Since the whole argument about when to stop allowing abortions is mental development and a heart beat ( which it has been shown time and again that many liberals seem to not have a heart or often higher brain functions) that we can just abort them at any time.  We can allowed the same rights aand voice as the "clump of cells" in trying to stop it - none.  If they try to argue to stop it - just explain to them that they are just a voiceless clump of cells and carry on as they try to squirm away from the tools.  

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Let me inject
Date:	5/20/2022 1:36:22 PM

Women do not want abortions; they just don't want to be pregnant.  I don't advocate abortion in lieu of birth control but accidents, rape and incest do happen.  I worked with a woman whose 12 year old sister was taken advantage of by her friends older brother during a sleepover.  she was terrified of what the parents would say, and went to her sister who was in her 20s. Seriously, does anyone thing a 10 or 12 year old should be forced to carry a baby to term?  It's not just a physical issue, but a psychological issue as well.  

Do you not think having a family member force themselves on you traumatic enough, without having to carry a baby to term if you are 10 or 12 or 14?  Generally speaking, I'm of the opinion anyone who is going to force themselves on a family member is probably not too concerned about using birth control.  

With regard to the health of the mother.  Where did anyone come up with the idea that the life of a fetus was more important than the life of a living, breathing mother, who may have other children to raise?  

It's all fine and well, GENTLEMEN, to decide that women should have no choice, when it is not your body involved.  Yes, it may potentially be your offspring, but if you rape or commit incest, do you think that person is likely to stick around and care for the resulting baby?  Do you call that responsible sex?  And what about the day your wife's Dr. comes to you and says that it is your wife's life or the unborn fetus' life.  Are you ready to go home and tell the other children that you have, that you made the choice to let their mother die, or an unborn fetus?  That's not love, that is crazy.  

So this is what I propose - put limits on the decision period for abortion, 6-8 weeks.  Then leave it alone.  If you don't approve of abortion and you don't want to have one - then don't (of course it wouldn't be you having it anyway) Same women that don't approve of abortion - if you don't believe in it, don't have one.  

In the case of rape, incest let the female decide what she wants to do.  If she doesn't believe in abortion, then don't have one.  But if it is going to cause psychological trauma or if the age of the victim is up to 14, allow her to make her own decision with the guidance of her parents.  

In the case of the mothers health or life, let her decide with her husband or partner and with the medical guidance.  Women still do die in childbirth.  

We criticize liberals for wanting to control every aspect of our lives, yet conservatives want to do the very same thing.  Lay down a reasonable court decision and then get the government out of the decision.  

Men also need to take responsibility for birth control.  I always hear men talking about women using birth control, but men bear a responsibility too.  

Now you can paint me a liberal and call me names, but I believe in taking a resonable approach.  

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Let me inject
Date:	5/20/2022 2:48:48 PM (updated 5/20/2022 3:08:53 PM)

Can we also agree that your medical plan can pay for your medical procedure without government intervention?  Or in the case of rape / incest the perps or parents medical plan can pay for it or build it into his or her court costs when he goes to court over rape/statutory rape.

 Depending on when the various news reports were done rape and incest account for 1/2 (incest ) to about 4 or 5 percent(rape) of all abortions but seem to be the major focus. Why when around 90+% seems to be just a form of birth control?

In the case of rape can we agree that whoever is guilty should be aborted regardless of age?  30 YO rapes 10 YO regardless of which way the gender is - the guilty party is aborted along with the fetus? (The adult perp not the minor)

In the case of incest, anyone under 18 is abused regardless of sex - see above.

In the case of incest of someone over 18, if they claim incest / rape lock up the perp, put in place a restraining order so they do not go back to shack up with the person who was abusing them - in the cases of consensual sex with two adults.  They can use their own medical insurance to deal with their issues.

I am not trying to control a womans body - for the most part the woman had a choice, if they are a willing participant in a sexual encounter there are sometimes consequences to their choices.  Life is not always easy, choices have to be made every day.  Excusing those WOMEN choices as woops and no one else should have an opinion.  I am suprised you indicated that a child would make a choice with their parents ( including their father) since guys just need to shutup, sit down and accept that our taxes should pay for poor choices(and rape / incest).

If a woman willingly decides to go to town with an entire football team should our tax dollars also pay for her to get treatment for STDs?  You may not like the question - but since many pro-abortion want to call a fetus a parasite or disease, I think it is very fitting.  

I care less if they get one, but maybe if they put in the funds to pay for it, maybe it would not be a case where companies are willing to pay for travel for 1 abortion ***per year*** up to $4000 each year and that 90+% would not be so quick and willing to make bad choices.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Let me respond
Date:	5/22/2022 9:46:55 AM

If we got to the point where abortion was limited to instances of rape and incest and 6-8 weeks most pro-life people would be thrilled.  That would be closer to the abortion limitations in most European countries where there isn't all the constant debate about the issue because unfettered abortion wasn't decided by the courts.  But those kind of limitations are treated the same as complete bans by the pro-abortion supporters and the abortion industry.  For the former it is about ideology and for the latter it is about ideology and money.

But on your point about "GENTLEMEN" I would remind you that more women on a percentage basis oppose abortion than men.  But regardless of gender I reject the concept that a man can't have an opnion on the issue.  For those of us that believe life begins at conception, that a soul is infused into a living being, we not only have the right to an opinion about abortion but a moral obligation to share our opinion.  Using your logic, women should have no right to an opinion of whether it is wrong for one man to kill another man because of your gender.  As for me personally, I financially support pregnancy crisis centers, ultrasound machines so women can see that it is a baby and not a clump of cells and other organizations that provide aid to women who find themselves pregnant.  And I pray for a change of hearts which is what is needed. I have no desire to control women's bodies but I do have an intense desire to protect innocent babies that for the vast, vast majority of them were conceived as a result of the decisions of their mothers.

But when you look at crazed, pro abortion women doing things like tearing a baby doll to pieces on the steps of the Supreme Court or claiming there is a difference between a baby 8 inches up the birth canal and one that has been born or that men can get pregnant you canunderstand why I use the term evil and satanic.  That does not apply to the vast majority of women that believe in abortion rights.  But it sure does apply to radical abortion supporters.  And in my opnion it also applies to anyone that actively promotes, votes for or provides abortion services.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Martini??????
Date:	5/26/2022 7:20:52 AM

Where did you find this? 

"But on your point about "GENTLEMEN" I would remind you that more women on a percentage basis oppose abortion than men. "

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Martini??????
Date:	5/26/2022 9:32:42 AM

Look at Hound's post above....first sentence in the fourth paragraph where she basically took the position that we had no right to have an opinion because it affects women's bodies and not men.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	No...you are wrong.
Date:	5/26/2022 1:41:34 PM

Look above for Hound's reply titled "Let me inject" and you will find the exact sentence in the exact location that I stated.  Goofy, if you want to be the Forum monitor you should at least try to be correct.