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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/7/2024 5:02:23 PM

Watchig the itensity of Milton..160mph wind level. Sure glad climate change and global warming are just myths. Think it they were real the wind speed might reach 200mph.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 8:32:15 AM (updated 10/8/2024 8:32:58 AM)

I agree so much that its all climate change and global warming - never have we ever seen such a storm ever in history hit Florida since the beginning of recorded climate or tracking of data of hurricanes that have hit Florida. 

 

They say its should weaken to a 3 before landfall which is still a horrific storm and will cause unspeakable damage and loss of life of people who decide to ride it out.

 

You are a sad sick little man.

 

 

 

SOME NOTABLE HURRICANES IN FLORIDA'S HISTORY
Storm Date Category (at time of impact) Landfall
Great Miami Hurricane 1926 4 South Miami
Lake Okeechobee Hurricane 1928 4 Jupiter
Labor Day Hurricane 1935 5 Craig Key
Unnamed September 1947 4 Pompano Beach
Unnamed August 1949 4 Palm Beach Shores
Hurricane Easy September 1950 3 Cedar Key
Donna 1960 4 Naples
Betsy 1965 3 Florida Keys
Eloise 1975 3 Bay County
Andrew 1992 5 Homestead
Opal 1995 3 Pensacola Beach
Charley 2004 4 Punta Gorda
Ivan 2004 3 Gulf Shores, AL
Jeanne 2004 3 Hutchinson Island
Dennis 2005 3 Santa Rosa Island
Wilma 2005 3 Cape Romano
Hermine September 2016 1 Alligator Point
Irma September 2017 4 Cudjoe Key
Michael October 2018 5 Mexico Beach, Tyndall Air Force Base
Sally September 2020 2 Gulf Shores, AL
Ian September 2022 4 Cayo Costa, FL
Nicole November 2022 1 near Vero Beach, FL
Idalia August 2023 3 Keaton Beach, FL
Debby August 2024 1 near Steinhatchee, FL




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 3:32:40 PM

 "You are a sad sick little man."

What did you  not understand about my post? My point was that  the right  denies climate change and global warming and  even without climate change and global  warming  the winds are projected at 160mph.  I wonder if according to the right  we did  have climate change and global warming woukd the  winds  be 200mph?

Maybe, after this year  the Right will take the issue  of  climate change and global warming seriously.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 4:02:46 PM

I guess it is time for MAJ USA(Ret) to dust off his historical graphs once again that show "climate change" is indeed a natural phenomenon and occurred even when there were no cars, planes, boat, fireplaces, and gas stoves to influence it.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 4:49:52 PM

I understand you are a sad sick little man who doubled down on stupid when people lives have and are about to be up ended all in the name of your religion "climate change and global warming"

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 4:50:42 PM

You can dust it off - but like someone said - "you cant fix stupid"

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Stupid
Date:   10/8/2024 5:35:26 PM (updated 10/8/2024 5:38:26 PM)

Dude, we have been having hurricanes since long before the use of fossil fuels.  And no, there has not been increase in the frequency or intensity of hurricanes. And yes, this has been a relatively quiet year for hurricanes (despite NOAA's usual forecast for more than usual).  And yes, hurricanes don't always form in the Gulf (146 since the 1850's) but when they do they grow in intensity due to the warmer water than in the Atlantic.  Some graphs to prove my points are below for your education.....not that it will matter because climate zealots are impervious to facts and data...unless it is their manipulated data.  Oh, and by the way, the U.S. has gone a record 11 years without a major hurricane making landfall until this year, all with tons of CO2 emissions. 

But otherwise everything you said was scientifically illiterate and stupid.

 

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Glad
Date:   10/8/2024 5:47:16 PM

First of all, the Right does not deny "climate change".  We understand that the climate has and will always change.  What we question is whether and to what extent man-made CO2 emissions impact the climate.  Second of all, the rabid and abjectly stupid left believes that prior to man-made CO2 the climate never changed and since then any change, warmer or colder, after the industrial revolution is our fault.  Thirdly, for some reason, whether it is the impending ice age we warned about in the 70s or the planet boiling and only having 10 years to live for the last 30 years or so, the problem is always fossil fuels and the solution is always redistribution of wealth from delveloped to undeveloped countries.  Globaloney is like a watermelon, green on the outside and red on the inside.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Sure Stupid
Date:   10/8/2024 11:03:31 PM

An example of a stupid  Republican Senator....Rich Scott former Gov Florida making stupid comments. Typical stupid Republican politician.

“When you say something’s going on, isn’t it pretty obvious that the climate is changing, and that is changing the size of these storms and making them as big as you just described?” asked Bash.

“Absolutely,” Scott agreed. “Something’s changed and the climate is clearly changing.”





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Are you serious?
Date:   10/8/2024 11:05:34 PM (updated 10/8/2024 11:07:12 PM)

As I said, no one believes the climate doesn't change.  Nothing he he said has anything to do with ACC.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Are you serious?
Date:   10/9/2024 8:39:28 AM

Either he is insane or just well GFY - the fact he referenced global warming is all you need to know.

 

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Are you serious? YES!!!!!!
Date:   10/10/2024 10:03:21 AM

Wonder why the experts keep lying?

Florida has been hit by two deadly hurricanes in two weeks. The number of storms in the region varies from year to year. But experts say that storms are turning into hurricanes more frequently because climate change is heating the oceans.

Record hot water temperatures fueled Milton, which escalated from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane in a day. Tropical storms are much more likely to turn into strong hurricanes during marine heat waves, experts say. Those are now more frequent.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   I do not take you seriously.
Date:   10/11/2024 8:55:50 AM (updated 10/11/2024 8:56:21 AM)

2004
 
The 2004 hurricane season was unprecedented for the time. There were a total of five storms that would impact Florida in just six weeks. In fact, two of the four, Frances and Jeanne, made landfall just 2 miles apart with only three weeks between them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  • Fastest intensification from a tropical depression to a Category 5 hurricane (1-minute sustained surface winds) – 48 hours 55 minutes
    Milton 2024 – 35 mph (55 km/h) to 160 mph (280 km/h) – from 1500 UTC October 5 to 1555 UTC October 7[70]
  • Fastest intensification from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane (1-minute sustained surface winds) – 24 hours
    Wilma 2005 – 70 mph (110 km/h) to 175 mph (275 km/h) – from 0600 UTC October 18 to 0600 UTC October 19[11]
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma   Wilma started in a similar spot and strengthened faster then Milton.
 
 
 
 
 
If the above is true - and storms are getting worse and more frequent - Why Do these dates 20 years ago worse then this season?
 
 
Something everyone I would hope should understand - storms in the Gulf form faster and stronger due to warmer waters then the Atlantic.
 
We are at a peak in hurricane season, not because of global warming, but because through history we see more storms this time of year more often then others.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Logical fallacy of appeal to experts
Date:   10/12/2024 8:08:51 AM

Except neither Goofy nor whoever wrote what he copied and pasted can name them.  I have already shown the graphs using government data that demonstrate conclusively that there has been no change in either the frequency nor the intensity of hurricanes since records have been kept going back to 1851. 

That Goofy copies and pastes something based on unnamed "experts" making false and scientifically incorrect statements (assuming it wasn't just made up) is proof of his scientific illiteracy......but we already knew that didn't we?









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