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architect
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Hey Old Diver
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11/22/2012 6:04:02 PM
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Just back in town from being out of digiwirelessland and see you have not yet presented your sources for the outrageous claims regarding voter fraud in your 11/17 post.
Interesting how MM never lambasts any of his fellow travelers when they do not immediately back up any statement as he is so often does to anyone who disagrees with his extremist rants.*** So again...give us your sources please sir.
*** MM your reply to my 11/17 request is even stupider than usual...I am no math whiz but I don't need to have PROOF that a 140% voter turnout is mathmatically impossible! That is not my request you pompous axx. I would appreciate proof that any precinct, as Old Diver claims, actually counted and certified 40% more votes than there are registered voters in the precinct!!! Perhaps you, O mighty fount of all useful knowledge, can give us the proof since the original poster has not.
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MartiniMan
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My, my, you are such a nasty left wing nut
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11/23/2012 9:31:34 AM
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Geez Archie, just back from Thanksgiving and in one post you manage to call me stupid and a pompous derrier in a post supposedly addressed to someone else. Why are you such a miserable unhappy person? What happened to you when you were young? Was it all your racist redneck friends up in North Georgia that got y'all riled up and ugly toward people that are intellectually and morally superior to you?
You always seem so angry and resentful when I dissect your liberal rantings with facts and logic. You may need medication. Hey, tell me Archie, are you really the woman that works for a non profit in Massachusetts because I think I saw a picture of you at Arlington National Cemetary shouting and flipping the bird at those who served our country and were buried there? If not, I can tell you she is a perfect example of your fellow traveler in the world of left wing nuts.
Now you try to enjoy the rest of your break and get some rest and take deep breaths. You might even ask for Anger Management classes for Christmas......or do you even celebrate it?!?!? LOL
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GoneFishin
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My, my, you are such a nasty left wing nut
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11/23/2012 1:51:50 PM
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Archie is one tough dude. Poor Martini can't handle a Limbaugh type Libtard like Arch. Martini expects he can bully all libtards but he is lost trying to handle Arch, my hero. I need to develope more self confidence in 2013 so I can be an Archie clone. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!
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MartiniMan
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LOL
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11/23/2012 6:05:40 PM
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GF, you are one funny dude......demented certainly....but still funny.
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architect
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MM
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11/23/2012 11:22:23 PM
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The ranting abuse you always enjoy dishing out to me never fails to make my day. You are a truly a prime example of a misguided soul and you are, in fact, a pompous axx. I, on the other hand, am not and never have been a "baby killer" nor a "blame America firster" as you have accused, but Lord I love it when you do...your crazy posts make my case!
BTW...are you or any other of your sad sad followers ever going to give any factual support to those "fraud" allegations tossed by your buddy last week?? I'm waiting.
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architect
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and GF
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11/23/2012 11:40:48 PM (updated 11/23/2012 11:45:12 PM)
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No need for self confidence to go up against MM and say what he is. He is a straw man who thinks he's Einstein. A wingnut who thinks he's philosopher. A groveling follower who thinks he's a dynamic leader. MM really is a "legend in his own mind". The sad thing is he has so many of the posters on this forum, who are much brighter than him, convinced he is showing the way to a bright rightwing future for the nation when in truth he is just one of tiny bacteria that has invaded and is destroying the body of a once great political party.
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comrade
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and GF
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11/24/2012 7:12:32 AM
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What was once great about the Republican Party?
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architect
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what was great about the Republican Party?
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11/24/2012 8:54:49 AM (updated 11/24/2012 9:32:23 AM)
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Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan* and for that matter Alf Landon, Henry Cabot Lodge, Barry Goldwater**, Nancy Kassebaum, Dick Lugar, Mark Hatfield, Everett Dirksen, Margaret Chase Smith and Olympia Snowe to name a few. Even Herbert Hoover was a great man who failed in only one of his many public service efforts. All these people have been or would be rejected by the today's GOP.
* Raised taxes and compromised with the Democrats...would be drawn and quartered by today's typical power-
house Republicans such as Grover Norquest, Lush Windbag and Jim DeMinted.
** Told the religious right exactly where to stick it...Can you imagine what that little NAZI Ralph Reed would do
if it had been said by Mitt Romney?! Believe me, "Sister Soulja moments" are strictly taboo in today's GOP.
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MartiniMan
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Not buying it
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11/24/2012 10:41:30 AM
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Archie, I am just not buying it. When I decimate your left wing nonsense with facts and logic I know it infuriates you to the point of blind rage. You seem to be seething with anger and resentment and I can't say that I blame you. If I believed so much that isn't so I too would lash out to those that point it out. What really, really bothers you is how there are so few on this forum that agree with much of anything you post. That is because like me they have chosen to live their lives based on facts and logic and not emotion. They don't agree with what I post for any other reason than it is right. And when they disagree with me they do so logically, factually and respectfully. All attributes you totally lack. Get help Archie.....you really need it.
Oh, and finally, you keep asking me to comment on something that I already commented on. There were reports in the news about vote counts at 140% of the total registered voters in a precinct. Even GF has acknowledged that it happened and it was a result of double counting ballots. So be it. Is there something else you want to discuss on this issue?
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MartiniMan
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and GF
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11/24/2012 10:52:07 AM
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I believe what I believe because it makes sense to me asked on facts, logic and history. Here's one for you Archie, name all the moderate Republicans that won the White House in the last 50 years. Let me list for you the moderates that have lost: Bob Dole, John McCain, GHW Bush, Gerald Ford. So the answer is that other than GHW Bush (who really won on the coattails of Reagan) the only Republicans that win the White House are fiscal and social conservatives, or at least espouse those values and are able to articulate them during the campaign.
But you are making the same mistake that so many do from both parties, read too much into a single election. Just look at how quickly control can change. The last 20 years are a perfect example. What we have today is divided government, Dems control the WH and Senate and the GOP controls more Governorships and state govt. That will shift down the road as it always does and always will. Learning from history Archie and try to control the crowing. It is so unseemly.
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comrade
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what was great about the Republican Party?
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11/24/2012 4:13:08 PM
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Notice you didn't include an over-arching belief in personal entitlement in your lavish praise of the past. It's always easy to project your beliefs onto dead people
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h_hob
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Not buying it
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11/24/2012 5:35:01 PM
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Archie doesn't doesn't discuss anything. He just goes off on a blind rant and rave like a Craig's List poster. It doesn't take much to put him in hiding again after one of his blind rant drive-bys.
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Old Diver
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Hey Old Diver
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11/25/2012 10:15:47 AM
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I will keep the arithmetic simple for our intellectual friends. Let us say that we have 100 registered voters in a precinct. Now the polls close, we open the ballot box and low and behold there are 140 ballots! Now if the preponderance of the votes go for the Democrat can one can one logically conclude that the opposition placed them there? This is how we achieve the miraculous voter turnout of 140 %. Since votes have no name on them we can't prove which are ligament and which are not.
The only reason someone could logically oppose voter I D is that they are planning to stuff the ballot boxes. Indeed, even Artur Davis has stopped his opposition because he said how he has observed the wholesale manufacture of votes in the African-American community. It is hard to understand how 57 precincts in Pennsylvanian voted 100 % for O. Even Castro doesn't do that well. In Virginia Romney was ahead 50 to 49% when a last minute count of the last 3 % of the votes O surged some120,000 votes. It reminds one of Minnesota in 2008 when Al Franken was running slightly behind and they had a recount. Every time they recounted someone would find a box of uncounted ballots. They had to do this three timed before Franken came out on top and it was immediately certified. Hard to believe even a liberal would vote for Franken.
Even Congressman Jim Moran's son was caught on tape giving advice on how to cast illegal votes. Many,many of our military ballots were lost. Why? Electronic voting machines changed the voters mind time after time. I was surprised to fine electrons to be so liberal. You know our current administration will not investigate.
GOD HELP AMERICA
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architect
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Hey Old Diver
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11/25/2012 4:49:59 PM (updated 11/25/2012 5:06:51 PM)
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Gee OD, I'm beginning to think you have OD'd. What part of the English language do you not understand. I KNOW IF A PRECINCT WITH 100 REGISTERED VOTERS HAS 140 VOTES CAST THAT IS NOT KOSHER!! I get that. My request to you is to give me the factual source that such an event actually happened. Just because Joe Blow tweets that it did does not make it so. Give me some facts!! Verifiable facts!! A similar claim of a county in (I think) Kentucky with less than 100,000 voters registered had counted 106,000 votes for Obama. It didn't happen and several fact checkers have proved it false. Any one of us could do that by going on line to the Secty of State website. In fact about 60% of the registered voters cast ballots and they split something like 52% Obama to 48% Romney. Has anybody ever told you that just being on the internet doesn't mean it's true? He//, MM demonstrates that almost everytime he posts. Give me the state, county and precinct where this over vote occurred and I will be happy to check it out myself.
It is very possible that all minority precincts could be 100% for Obama just as there were many precincts with all white registration in north Ga that voted 95%+ for Romney . It is sad that such is true but not illegal, not fraud. In NYC there were over 80 precincts that voted unanimously for Obama and there were dozen of orthodox Jewish precincts that were 95%+ for Romney. IT HAPPENS!
Bottom line...your side lost, Obama got 4.3 million more votes than your guy. It was an election...one side won and the other lost. Get over it and move on!
PS: RE: voter ID. I have no problem with picture ID's as long as they can be obtained easily and without cost. I do wonder if by being able to get the photo ID without having to produce a verified photo doesn't simply shift the location where this "rampant fraud" occurs from the polling place to the DMV!! Now my wife and I both voted an absentee ballot this year. We obtained them on line by supplying no more that our names and voter registration numbers. The voter registrar has no idea whether the people ordering the ballots were who they claimed, he has no idea whether the ballots mailed were actually received by the people who ordered them and he has no idea whether the ballots mailed back were actually marked by the registered voter who supposedly ordered them. You see OD, there is a much easier way to cheat without having to get out on a cold November day and actually present a false ID and stand in line for 2 hours to cast your illegal vote. Oh, BTW, over 2/3ds of the absentee votes cast in GA were for Romney compared to 53.3% overall...hum I wonder??
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