Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 11:16:53 AM (updated 10/18/2019 11:19:30 AM)

SPEAK UP WHY SO QUIET?????

As MM would say...it's fun to watch the Right avoid this one. Even WIX sits in the woods babbling to himself. Phil?? He is pondering his next bold move and seeks advice  from his lady boss. CDC.....well he is checking Right Wing forums for help....Hound? She is considering  moving to Canada. Buteye sits this one out. The truth always comes out guys.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 12:35:52 PM

Debunked, your an idiot who only watches CNN and gets the DNC talking points faxed to your house hourly.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 12:45:32 PM

 If Trump said to Ukraine, "no hard earned taxpayer money for you until you clean up your corrupt government so that we know that the money goes where it is supposed to go", if that is quid pro quo, then I am for it.  I work hard for my money that I send to Uncle Sam and good for Trump that he attaches norms of behaviour to my money.  Now, your money must come far easier, and you must not mind that you send your money to Ukraine and it comes back in Biden's pocket.  I can't wait until the Crowdstrike server discussion comes to a head.  Then we will be certain that there was Russian interference in 2016 and it came via the DNC.  Dallas last nght was far from silent.  When did you see a crowd like that for Beto? Squaw? Uncle Joe? Cardio Bern? 

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 12:46:25 PM

If you and your cohorts think you have finally found the proverbial "needle in the haystack", then by all means impeach him and send it to the senate.  You know that's not going to happen, buy rave on.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 12:48:05 PM

The idiot says ...read what Hannity said...Guess to you Hannity is an idiot also. Now, that we can agree on. Now go research and find where Obama is 2014 said something....

"Fox News host Sean Hannity slammed Mick Mulvaney, President Trump’s acting chief of staff, after he admitted the administration conditionally withheld military aid from Ukraine. “What is Mulvaney even talking about? I just think he’s dumb, I really do. I don’t even think he knows what he’s talking about. That’s my take on it,” the conservative commentator said Thursday."

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Hey AU
Date:	10/18/2019 12:52:56 PM

The result in the Senate will be the same as the result for UA when they play Alabama later this season.....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 12:59:33 PM

Dont watch faux - but I do  feel that you are an idiot, It is so funny watching all these "faux" news haters quote fox news.  You would almost think they watch it.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	CRD
Date:	10/18/2019 1:04:43 PM

Lyin Don does well drawing crowds. But, so did Obama, Bush, Clinton, Lincoln, and Washington. Doc, they are all PRESIDENTS!!!!!

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 1:07:47 PM (updated 10/18/2019 1:08:17 PM)

Just think - from now on any strings that the government puts on anything can now be grounds to have them removed from office.

I would guess that also goes for a lot of those restrictions that the house passes regarding doing business with Russia. Pelosi and anyone who voted for Russian business restrictions should now be removed from office.

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Hey AU
Date:	10/18/2019 1:10:54 PM

Since you folks are so opposed to winning (as in MAGA), why don't you all impeach Saban?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Hey AU
Date:	10/18/2019 1:21:55 PM

I'm a Clemson fan...love to see Alabama get beat but fear they will be Champs this year.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 1:26:37 PM

"I do  feel that you are an idiot"

Why does someone with your intellect continue to waste their time at work responding to an idiot???

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 1:30:45 PM

Because you(the idiot) addressed the statement to me and referenced my  "boss Lady", still misgendering. Amazing to see you go against your party like that!!!! But then again it proves my point,  Demonrats only stand up for the rights/genders/pronouns of the people they agree with.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 1:39:39 PM

I'm in total agreement with you. As taxpayers we have a right to know how foreign governments that we "supprt" are using our "hard" earned money. We are fortunate that we now have a President who is looking out for the "good" of our "Country" and does not "apologize" for the "greatness" of America. At least he is not sending "billions" of our "tax dollars" as Obama did when payments of $400 million and $1.3 billion were sent in the "cloak" of darkness to Iran. The reason that two separate installments were made was beacuse US law prevents the US government from giving Iran "US dollars", so the US government had to scrape together "foreign" currency which is "tough" to do on short notice. I know that those of you who look to Obama as "King" claim that the United States "owed" Iran that money. Look at anyway you want to but I don't believe we "owe" anything to any country that "burns" the "American Flag" and rants "Death to America"!!!!!!!!!!!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 2:52:13 PM

I have no plans to move to Canada. I like being an American, even if I don't approve of what the President has done with regard to Ukraine and Syria.

I don't believe that the President cared about corruption in the Ukraine.  I think it is a waste of time to keep going back to the 2016 election, worrying about some server.  Military assistace money is not turned over, it is a credit and the President can still suspend aid if there is corruption in Ukraine.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 2:59:09 PM

"If Trump said to Ukraine, "no hard earned taxpayer money for you until you clean up your corrupt government"

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the above false hypothetical actually happened. He would then be in violation of the law and is committing an impeachablle offense. Congress appropriates funds. The executive branch cannot add conditions and withhold funds based on those illegal conditions.

Now, let's look at what really happened. The summary transcript of the telephone conversation between #45 and Zelensky that the White House released shows #45 mentioning the Bidens and the phony conspiracy theory about Ukraine and the DNC server. Neither the word "corrupt" nor "corruption" appears anywhere in the transcript.

You are delusional as always. Maybe you should concentrate on surgery. Current events appear to just be too much for you to handle.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	One itsy bittsy problem CRD
Date:	10/18/2019 3:36:35 PM

that ain't what Trump said.  It also ain't what Mulvaney said!

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 5:30:31 PM

A couple of items that I recommend you familiarize yourself on Doe boy.  Authorization, Appropriation, WH OMB.  Trump has plenty of good legal advice surrounding him.  Just because Congress can't figure out why there was a delay in release, does not infer high crimes and misdemeanors.  Stick to whatever you do btw. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 5:36:00 PM

Having seen reports of these type of "high crimes" for the last 50+ years regarding foreign aid and strings attached, I am amazed that all the presidents of the last several hundred years have not been impeached.

We see this in the strings attached to appropriates coming out of the house and senate all the time, I can just not figure out why government as usual became a crime suddenly.  

Still can not figure out why this is a crime, but Biden's threats were not or that digging up dirt is now illegal but the steele dossier is not.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/18/2019 7:32:18 PM

"The executive branch cannot add conditions and withhold funds based on those illegal conditions" --really?

Despite significant reservations from OMB, just the opposite occurred in the Oblamer administration (which I assume is just as illegal judging by your expertise) concerning Solyndra.  Remember that Doe boy?  Oblamer pushes the OMB against their better judgement for rapid approval of the DOE guaranteed 535 Billion (Billion with a B) loan so Biden could present it at a pressor.  Then they declare Chapter 11.  To make matters worse, a private restructuring loan got first dibs over our tax dollars in the restructuring legalese.  Slimey.  

Exactly what Mulvaney stated, this sh.....t happens ALL THE TIME.  He was the past director of OMB for crying out loud and I assume he knows who he can trust and who there are the never Trumpers.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 10:22:24 AM

"A couple of items that I recommend you familiarize yourself on Doe boy.  Authorization, Appropriation, WH OMB."

Already familiar. It is you who needs to familiarize himself.

"Trump has plenty of good legal advice surrounding him."

Hahaha! The guy who praised Roy Cohn and retained Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani as his personal attorneys wouldn't know "good legal advice" if it bit him on the keister. Whatever sound legal advice he may have received, he has obviously ignored. That's why he loses attorneys, advisers, and Cabinet members on such a regular basis. Even the shysters and criminals he surrounds himself with know when he's gone too far....

"Just because Congress can't figure out why there was a delay in release,"

We all know perfectly well why he wiithheld the funds, because he told us in the publicly-released summary of his conversation with Zelensky. And, BTW, Mick Mulvaney confirmed it in his press conference.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 10:28:34 AM

"Having seen reports of these type of "high crimes" for the last 50+ years regarding foreign aid and strings attached, I am amazed that all the presidents of the last several hundred years have not been impeached."

I, OTOH, am not amazed in the slightest that you can't tell the difference. Withholding foreign aid in an effort to coerce the lawful recipient into assisting you with your re-election campaign constitutes bribery, extortion, and a violation of Federal election laws. As simple and correct as that explanation is, we all know that you will pretend not to understand it.

"Still can not figure out why this is a crime,"

There are lots and lots of things you can't figure out. Your failure to comprehend does not constitute support for your bogus arguments.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 11:03:38 AM

Give us the exact quote from the Transcript Doe boy that shows that Trump withheld funds.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 1:36:52 PM

"Give us the exact quote from the Transcript Doe boy that shows that Trump withheld funds."

The funds had already been withheld at that time. That is public knowledge, and the WH admits as much. Their excuses for doing so have, umm, evolved over time, but the fact of the withholding has always been admitted. #45 disclosed his decision to withhold to DoD on July 18, although he told them that he had made the decision some time prior to that. Zelensky was obviously aware that Ukraine had yet to receive the funds when the phone conversation occurred, although the money had been appropriated by Congress in the 2019 budget, and the WH had initially told Congress that the funds would be distributed in February.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 5:40:21 PM

Ukraine did not know about the aid hold up until 1 month after call.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/19/2019 10:49:28 PM

"Ukraine did not know about the aid hold up until 1 month after call."

So lemme get this straight: you really believe Zelensky didn't know that Ukraine hadn't received the funds when he had the phone conversation with #45? Or that #45's statements - as revealed in the WH summary transcript - were not an obvious attempt to shake down Ukraine? I've got a bridge to sell you....

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/20/2019 9:35:35 AM

Ukraine has the letter from its Washington Embassy that notifies them of the hold-up.  One month after the phone call.  They were  perplexed because it put them in a vulnerable position during Russia negotiations.  They were angry with the hold-up when they found out.  If the hold up put them in a weakened position with Russia, would you surmise that it just MAY have been a topic of discussion with Trump?  This timeline is from reliable media quotes from Ukraine government officials.  Easy to find.   What you are proposing is that the solemn process of impeachment is justified on the basis of your conjecture. You will soon come to learn that most of flyover America feels the same.  

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/21/2019 8:29:07 AM

It is called sarcasm in terms of "could not figure it out"  because the things you are saying are illegal are exactly what Obama/Biden did and yet he was not charged with the high crimes that they should have.

Name:	johndoe -	Reply
Subject:	SILENCE IS GOLDEN?????
Date:	10/21/2019 4:11:43 PM

"If Trump said to Ukraine, "no hard earned taxpayer money for you until you clean up your corrupt government so that we know that the money goes where it is supposed to go","

We all know just how much #45 hates corruption: