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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Newt to OWS crowd
Date:   11/21/2011 9:55:18 AM

Get a job.....after you take a bath. Could not have said it better myself. What is even more amazing is that Dems are not distancing themselves from these parasites and criminals. If you want some good comedy look for Stephen Colbert's interview of a couple of actual OWS idiots. He absolutely eviscerates them and their absolute inanity. The woman went by the name Ketchup. I kid you not, you can't make this stuff up. I hope and pray these people are still at it in November 2012 and Oblamer/BiteMe are still egging them on. Most reasonable thinking Americans (i.e. all except the 20% who are libtards) will be rightly disgusted with these useful idiots and it will not help Dems in the least.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Newt to OWS crowd
Date:   11/21/2011 2:00:12 PM

I strongly support the right to protest. However,it had to be taken down. You cannot have people living in tents in NYC. I remmeber a protest by truck drivers who closed the Ben Franklin bridge to Philly. The police left them alone. When taxi drivers tried to close the 59th street bridge in NYC, Rudi took it to court and under the 1st Amendment the judge said they had the right but he set the time for their protest with their taxis between 4-6AM.

I assume you support protest under the 1st Amendment whether you agree with the reason for the protest. A parent never knows when their child decides it is time to rebel and join a rally. One of the great perils of parenthood.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Sigh......
Date:   11/21/2011 4:05:18 PM

GF, no one said they don't have a right to LAWFULLY assesmble. But no one has a right to something unlawful. But Newt wasn't addressing anyone's right or lack thereof, he was commenting on what a bunch of degenerate pigs, weirdo's reprobates, rapists, drugged out nutjobs, etc. that assemble under the occupy monicker. They whine about wanting the productive to give them everything they want just because they want it.....sort of like small children under the age of 3. Newt is telling them to grow up and get a job like the productive in the country.....but first they need to bathe because they stink.



Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Sigh......
Date:   11/21/2011 5:58:40 PM


Enough of your venom already.   Even if you don't agree with street protests, it doesn't serve any purpose to denigrate everyone of the sympathizers in this way.   Your harshness is part of the polarization that propels the problem.   Their protest is not likely to change the system, but we should recognize the fact that so many people, in so many cities across the country, found reason to go into the streets to display their dissatisfaction with system.   There is a huge and potentially destabilizing income disparity in this country as we go into the future.   We should pay close attention to what this means, and not just wrap ourselves in smug self-congratuations that I have been financially successful... and if you have not, there's something wrong with your character, or intelligence, or moral fiber.

As far as Newt goes, I think it's pretty funny that he makes this reference.  He already gave the rest of  us a serious bath by taking $1.5 million in consulting fees from those same federal agencies he derides for their wasteful spending. 

Just sit back and have another martini, man.



Name:   Barneget - Email Member
Subject:   huh?
Date:   11/21/2011 6:33:38 PM (updated 11/21/2011 6:50:28 PM)

Dissatisfaction with the system or dissatisfied with finding themselves in debt for $100k plus, and unable to find work in their field, after securing a Masters in Transexual Pygmy Culture Studies. SEIU has been planning, and fomenting this protest since at least February last year, with their ultimate objective being a write down of their quarter billion dollar indebtedness to BofA and Wells Fargo. That would free up additional cash for zerO's reelection, explaining why he stands behind them, of course. I too am dissatisfied with the system. Dissatisfied with my reduced purchasing power as a result of higher fuel prices, brought on by this administrations opposition to environmentally responsible domestic energy production, diminished purchasing power caused by the current administrations preoccupation with reparations via obamacare, vanishing private sector employment opportunities for all skill levels brought on by regulatory over reach, and most unhappy with the US long term financial outlook due to DC types unwillingness to address federal government spending. Yet, broadcast and internet news inundates us all day and night with stories about these poor slobs. And in the process, we find some otherwise rational people buying the narrative. Bless their hearts.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   HEY Hobbie Horsie
Date:   11/21/2011 6:52:57 PM

Explain in clear turns how Martini's rights are being violated? You need to realize that you are an American first and a right wing nut second. Suggesting that anyone you disagree with should flee to Canada is  really funny. You need to leave your hideout in Idaho and see the real America. Buy a camper and travel the country. Go into the inner cities and volunteer to help feed the homeless for a few days. There is so more to being an American than to just say NO.




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   HEY Hobbie Horsie
Date:   11/21/2011 7:56:47 PM


Jellyfish ... are you back to creating new members and posting under multiple names again?   Is that the only way you can get someone to support you?   I see you AGAIN failed to respond why Oblamer has earned your dyed in the wool support.  Please enlighten us as to what he has done for the economy that you feel is so good and moved the country in a positive direction.

It will be crickets as usual ... put up or shut up.  

You the bashers of the tea party that did everything legally and respectfully ... these slobs are nothing more than a mob. 



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Water Boy
Date:   11/21/2011 8:12:46 PM

Can you read????????????? I said "I strongly support the right to protest. However,
  it had to be taken down."  What  do you disagree with??????? As to my alias, I have told you before I have 5 and do not need anymore. Anyone who disagrees with your narrow minded thought process is suddenly my alias. As to the tea party, they are like you all good little boys and girls.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   GF, You May Have a Problem
Date:   11/21/2011 9:10:05 PM

Bullet 7 of the Forum Usage Rules: 
  • "Each member is allowed one login account. Registering with multiple accounts is not allowed. One exception to this rule is a member that owns/operates more than one business that uses Lakes Online services."
  • So GF, do you have five businesses that use Lakes Online services, and if so what are they?  If you don't, it seems by having five aliases you are in violation of the forum usage rules and could be banned.

    What say you, and ATFQ, don't give us a bunch of nonrelated nonsense.





    Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
    Subject:   Hey Hodgieeee
    Date:   11/21/2011 9:25:32 PM

    Why were you so silent when Barnie posted this????????????????


    Name:   Barneget The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
    Subject:   Mike Elliot Forum Ratings
    Date:   6/4/2011 7:42:57 PM



    Mav, I don't put a whole lot of stock in the ratings. There are 2 members, frequent off topic participants, (you know who you are) capable of generating serious heartburn and every time I lose sleep as a result, I invent another alias and poke them. I've never given myself an "attaboy" as that would be dishonest.




    Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
    Subject:   Hey Hodgieeee
    Date:   11/21/2011 9:32:00 PM

    ATFQ



    Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
    Subject:   Alias
    Date:   11/21/2011 10:20:15 PM

    there are a number of people on here who have multiple alias. My feeling is that alias ought to be abandoned in favor of using real names. People would think a lot more about what they posted if they had to actually put their names on it.



    Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
    Subject:   HEY Hobbie Horsie
    Date:   11/21/2011 10:22:31 PM

    I too served so I fit into your sentence quite well.



    Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
    Subject:   HEY Mr Hodge Podge
    Date:   11/21/2011 10:44:19 PM

    I am sorry. I do not have 5 alias but 7 at last count. I am sure Water Boy can name all of them as he is always accusing anyone he disagrees with as being one of my alias names.

    I just Googled ATFQ and I have too much class to respond to such a crude request. Just because I receive entitlements does not give you the right to be so crude. My new mobile phone and laptop are entitlements that have opened the world to me. Now, I need to see if I can get one of those gas cards they are distributing as my F150 only gets 16 MPG.




    Name:   Barneget - Email Member
    Subject:   Hey Hodgieeee
    Date:   11/21/2011 10:59:21 PM

    Hey, hey, people can change........



    Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
    Subject:   HEY Mr Hodge Podge
    Date:   11/21/2011 11:00:21 PM

    I need an industrial-sized mop to sop up all the sarcasm dripping from that one.  Ever consider stand-up comedy?



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Drivve-by libtard poster
    Date:   11/22/2011 8:45:36 AM

    Now wait a second, if the OWS parasites have a right to free speech then i should as well, right?!?!?!?  Oh wait a second, i forgot liberals have no principals or standards so they can make it up as they go along.  Hey, Newt and i just call them the way we see them and there is no doubt based on the daily reports of violence. disease, rape, public defecation and masturbation and so on that my description of these low life dirt bags is entirely accurate.

    You libtards have to deal with the facts of who you are and what you represent.  The rest of us will go about our lives solving problems and making the world work so you can continue to live in your fantasy land.  No thanks are necessary....we do it because we are adults.....

    Another libtard fish to shoot in the barrel....



    Name:   copperline - Email Member
    Subject:   Newt to OWS crowd
    Date:   11/22/2011 9:00:02 AM


    For the record:   I am not using any alias here, and my posts are my own.   Indeed, Canada is a beautiful country.  Viet Nam was a long time ago.    The GOP Presidential candidates are doing a great job of promoting the re-election of Barak Obama.  Right wing hostility matches up well with extreme left-wing views... both are paranoid, myopic and pretty weird.  Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party appear to be expressions of many of the same grievances (but both would be horrified to admit their kinship).... and the most troubling aspect of all is how this left/right rancor has completely paralyzed our political system by pulling us into polarized camps. We are suffering terrible economic conditions as a result, and risking a far worse scenario in the future.    Without consensus, we won't find a way out of this mess.....

    And the long-standing problem with this forum is the level of shrill insults and aggression directed toward anyone who isn't a hard-core Right Winger.  

    Tallulah Hound is right, our anonymity is allowing everyone to say what we think without self-censoring.... making it more likely we will slam & degrade each other because we won't have to answer for it. 



    Name:   Lifer - Email Member
    Subject:   Get it right MM!
    Date:   11/22/2011 9:00:04 AM

    Ketchup did NOT identify herself as a woman.  She is a "female bodied entity".  You can't see right now but I am giving you down twinkles  :)



    Name:   Barneget - Email Member
    Subject:   Newt to OWS crowd
    Date:   11/22/2011 9:30:22 AM

    It was center to right docility until certain institutions were deemed too big to fail, yet paid hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars in bonuses, docility until GM bondholders were shoved to the side in favor of the UAW, docility until it became clear that a trillion dollars in taxpayers monies were allocated exclusively as political payback, docility until people learned that deficit spending jumped by 300% with flat revenue for no apparent reason, docility until it became apparent that unconstitutional executive regulatory over reach was having profound impact on wallets, and then there is obamacare. Now, the progressives in leadership positions are taking their infatuation with EuroSocialism to the next level by endorsing the actions of ows, along with, by their failure to condemn, the behavior of individuals within the movement. I have yet to see or hear any ows participant call for personal responsibility and accountability, and without that, people are dreaming about finding common ground.



    Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
    Subject:   Don't bother
    Date:   11/22/2011 10:10:11 AM

    It's pointless to talk sense to this crowd. They aren't interested in the truth.



    Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
    Subject:   Don't bother
    Date:   11/22/2011 11:09:09 AM

    Truth as defined by who?



    Name:   Barneget - Email Member
    Subject:   Don't bother
    Date:   11/22/2011 11:54:20 AM

    Let me answer. The absolute truth according to insiders at Vanity Fair, Morning Joe, Ed Schultz, Tingles, Butch, and the rest of the cast at Ms.NBC.



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Thanks for the lecture
    Date:   11/22/2011 12:00:04 PM

    Fact is GF and a good many others on the forum and I are on a first name basis as weIl have exchanged personal emails.  They know my name, where I work, even my cell number. Doesn't slow me or GF in the least from tweaking each other.

    You strike me as just another humorless libtard that if given the chance would love to silence voices on the right.  My world view is informed by a study of history and being well informed and well read.  I understand and can parrot liberal arguments all day long.  Its very easy, you simply remove rational thought, add senseless emotion and bingo......you are a libtard.  I have very little use for humorless libtards (i.e., Archie....who only occasionally hits us with a nonsensical drive by post on occasions and isn't missed).  If you want to engage in discussion like we do with Hound and even GF on occasion (when he isn't being intentionally provacative) then please do.  But don't come here with emotion or left wing talking points.  Bring some facts (if they exist) to support your position.  But be advised, we do our homework and if you just bring in government media crap it will get thrown back in your face.

    Based on the dozens of articles I have read and news stories I have seen, many from the more than sympathetic govenment media, I stand by everything I have said about the OWS crowd.  Watch the Colbert interview.....these are the more sensical of the parasites, which sadly isn't saying much.



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Au contraire
    Date:   11/22/2011 12:11:28 PM

    We deal in truth every day but of course we are speaking of objective truth......it is liberals that can't handle that version of the truth.  They have to rely heavily on maoral relativism, otherwise their world view collapses under the weight of facts and evidence and has to rely on emotion and good intentions no matter the actual outcome.

    Hound, you often speak the truth and I will agree with you when you do.  GF only rarely does but that is his modus vivendi and he isn't going to let it go because he has too much fun.  Archie, when he droves by it is usually to tell us how awful we are and to reind himself why he never comes here....until he does....and then he goes away....thankfully.



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Get it right MM!
    Date:   11/22/2011 1:00:25 PM

    Hey Lifer, do you have the link to the entire interview?  I saw it at someone's house but have not been able to find the entire interview.  By the way, there is another funny one down by the Daily Show.  See the link below and get ready to laugh....until you remember these people can vote.......then you will feel like crying.  These people are so clueless they don't even realize it.  You will love the guy who wants there to be no provate property but he won't share his Mac with the less fortunate because its his "personal" property......and there is difference you know......in Bizarroworld

    URL:

    Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
    Subject:   Get it right MM!
    Date:   11/22/2011 1:03:41 PM

    No link.



    Name:   copperline - Email Member
    Subject:   Au contraire
    Date:   11/22/2011 1:33:18 PM


    “My world view is informed by a study of history and being well informed and well read.”

    Here’s my world view.  I grew up around here, and I can tell you that Right Wing radicals have been dangerous, destructive and sometimes downright murderous in this part of the world.   That part of our culture has held back economic development in this region for many generations now, but unless you lived thru it yourself… you wouldn’t appreciate the gravity of this problem.     It just hasn’t been that long since the locals were hanging people who were opposed to their world view.    I readily admit to that listening to more of that sort of hate-mongering invective makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck as I wonder where the Conservative tide will take us next.

     

    You take an easy & self-confident position now, but it hasn’t been that long since Catholics were persecuted around here, too.     Priests and Nuns were threatened & intimidated for their work in community organization,  congregations condemned as idolators and papists.    And it wasn’t until 1963 that anyone would even consider voting for a Catholic for President (A Democrat!).    Consider this:  In times past, you could have been the object of considerable right wing animosity yourself…. And if you woke up to find a cross burning in your yard, you would be seriously hoping to find a neighbor who expoused inclusiveness and tolerance.  





    Name:   Lifer - Email Member
    Subject:   Get it right MM!
    Date:   11/22/2011 1:35:20 PM

    I don't have a link.  I just followed one last week and ended up seeing the entire 'ketchup, the female bodied entity' and her idiot boyfriend.  I think I linked off Drudge Report.  Very eye opening as to who the 'movement' allows to represent themselves.



    Name:   Lifer - Email Member
    Subject:   Au contraire contraire
    Date:   11/22/2011 1:42:06 PM

    "And it wasn’t until 1963 that anyone would even consider voting for a Catholic for President (A Democrat!).  "

    Except for John Fitzgerald Kennedy, elected in in 1960.  Facts are nasty things when when you have a myopic World View!!




    Name:   Barneget - Email Member
    Subject:   Au contraire
    Date:   11/22/2011 2:05:35 PM

    Right wing radical hate mongering? Advocating economic repression? Lynching? That is a giant leap from anything I have ever read here.



    Name:   Lifer - Email Member
    Subject:   And BTW
    Date:   11/22/2011 4:34:35 PM

    Today is the anniversary of his assassination, in 1963.



    Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
    Subject:   Hey Barnie The Producer
    Date:   11/22/2011 5:18:39 PM

    Never thought of you as a hate monger. Rather, just an individual who is somewhat misdirected in their thought process. Did they ever catch those dudes who crawled through the ceiling? 



    Name:   Barneget - Email Member
    Subject:   Hey Barnie The Producer
    Date:   11/22/2011 5:54:49 PM

    Not a hater, and no, the perps have never been identified. Insurance made good on most of the loss, and none of my folks were in harms way.



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Au contraire
    Date:   11/22/2011 7:45:28 PM

    Copper, you are all over the place with this post so I will try my best to deconstruct. Apparently right wing radicals have done a lot of damage that I haven't heard of in the 23 years I have lived in the south. Now I am aware of all the bombings and other criminal acts by left wing radicals in the 60's but the other stuff eludes me. Now as for hangings, you surely must be mistaken if you attribute those acts to right wing radicals, whatever or whomever they may be. I presume you are referring to hangings in the old south (last one reportedly in 1981 in Mobile, AL). Guess what dude, those were all democrats involved in the K K K and hanging blacks. Not Republicans. Now I know how liberals like to wrap themselves in the flag of civil rights but at least try to do it with a modicum of honesty. As for your thread about Catholics I am truly mystified. Catholics are persecuted and have been from the beginning. So what? But no one is torching crosses in anyone's lawn and those of us who are conservative would not even understand the point. Frankly you may be confused about what a conservative is and believes and are confusing them with rednecks and racists (i.e., Archie's friends from North Georgia). As for Kennedy's election, oh that we actually had some Democrats today that espoused Kennedy's economic beliefs. In fact, a great many of the people I know that voted for Kennedy are now Republicans. Understandable since the GOP represents fiscal sanity and the Dems represent fiscal inanity (not insanity....just ignorant and ill informed). So if you want protection from hangings I suggest you vote for pro-gun, pro law enforcement Republicans.



    Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
    Subject:   Get it right MM!
    Date:   11/22/2011 7:49:00 PM

    Couldn't get it to take. It was a Jon Stewart show where some lady interviewed a bunch of OWS dimwits. Classic comedy. Might be on the Daily Show website.







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